On July 19 2012 17:34 Joedaddy wrote: Wow. Just wow. Thanks so much for sharing this OP. I've got a secret love (lol) for rap. But, so many rappers don't seem to have anything real to say. I've always loved Eminem because I always felt like he was actually saying something. Same thing for this song by Jedi Mind Trick, Rockwell Knuckles' song "Play Catch", and Louis Logic's "The Ugly Truth".
There are a lot of truly great rap/hip hop artists out there with something real to say, and its so crazy sad that they don't get the same recognition that the poisonous mainstream artists get.
I'm not black so I'm probably not the best person to opine about this though. I still have always said that its so terribly... fucked up. I don't know what else you'd call it. Young people growing up in a disadvantaged environment where so many of the biggest success stories are dealers, thugs, gang bangers, etc turned hip hop superstar who write songs about sleeping around indiscriminately, doing drugs, excessive alcohol abuse, etc. etc etc. What are young people supposed to grow up thinking when they don't have anyone around them telling them anything different?
Love this song and I can't thank you enough for sharing it.
Wu-Tang's first album has plenty of tracks about the hardships, false prophets and illusions that face young people. MF DOOM's entire career is pretty much that actually happening (loved ones dying, the fall from grace etc. etc.)
On July 19 2012 16:35 xodarap wrote: This track is just like every other track dissing the entirety of rap culture over the past twenty years. Nothing new. I was expecting an actual message similar to ATCQ or De La Soul.
I'm sorry? Telling the mass of retards to smarten the fuck up and contribute to society is a pretty good message to me.
It's easy to tell people to 'smarten the fuck up and contribute' when you come from a priviledged background. Rap isn't about that shit. It's gotta be real.
On July 19 2012 16:35 xodarap wrote: This track is just like every other track dissing the entirety of rap culture over the past twenty years. Nothing new. I was expecting an actual message similar to ATCQ or De La Soul.
I'm sorry? Telling the mass of retards to smarten the fuck up and contribute to society is a pretty good message to me.
It's easy to tell people to 'smarten the fuck up and contribute' when you come from a priviledged background. Rap isn't about that shit. It's gotta be real.
You're born into problems but the problem isn't inherently you. he's saying smarten up and get out of the loop you're so blindly walking in in a very aggresive manner. its a unique style that i haven't heard before. at least i think its uncommon
I agree that the message is good. The people that he addresses and raps about are probably not going to be the people that will listen to his music though or they will not think that what he is saying applies to them. As a hip hop song it seems pretty bland. Nothing in his flow or the production really pop out. A good/decent song nonetheless.
Really good punchlines and real fun to rap with. 11/10 Haven't heard something this good in awhile. Beat out 95% of eminem's music from my perspective.
I tend not to post often, but I have to say Hopsin is the [only] rap artist I actually listen to and also respect for rap/hip-hop genre. So much talent inside of him and any time he talks in a personal vLog or interview he sounds actually really intelligent/laid-back/outgoing etc.
He's quite fun to listen to. I'm not a huge fan of his beats but at least they aren't fuck awful, production I couldn't careless and his lyrics are straightforward not necessarily clever but they're not bad.
On July 19 2012 16:35 xodarap wrote: This track is just like every other track dissing the entirety of rap culture over the past twenty years. Nothing new. I was expecting an actual message similar to ATCQ or De La Soul.
I'm sorry? Telling the mass of retards to smarten the fuck up and contribute to society is a pretty good message to me.
yea, but hes done it on several other songs before. ive been listening to hopsin for a few months, one of my more favorite rappers. regardless, ill mind #5 is still sick. hes def 1 of the best indy rappers, who refuses to sell out.
On July 19 2012 16:35 xodarap wrote: This track is just like every other track dissing the entirety of rap culture over the past twenty years. Nothing new. I was expecting an actual message similar to ATCQ or De La Soul.
I'm sorry? Telling the mass of retards to smarten the fuck up and contribute to society is a pretty good message to me.
It's easy to tell people to 'smarten the fuck up and contribute' when you come from a priviledged background. Rap isn't about that shit. It's gotta be real.
You're born into problems but the problem isn't inherently you. he's saying smarten up and get out of the loop you're so blindly walking in in a very aggresive manner. its a unique style that i haven't heard before. at least i think its uncommon
If you listened to the song I posted, the solution is to empower, not to berate. Its a thin line, but significant.
On July 19 2012 16:44 Kazius wrote: The guy has good technique, delivers solid, straight-up music and lyrics, and has fantastic production. Seems to be doing his own thing - doesn't sound as fake as the heavily commercialized hip hop in the mainstream media. Anyways, his sound is refreshing. I like.
But I do wonder about the camera. See, there is something very very professional about the camera movement. Can't put my finger on it, mostly since I know nothing about production, but I have seen hundreds of thousands of videos and this does not look like a home video by any means.
Edit: Ah, ninja:
On July 19 2012 19:39 Sinensis wrote: I don't support artists that got famous by going viral on youtube. I think if no one did the music industry would be a better place.
Good to see something with substance come out of the hiphop community, over all this faux gangster shit. Nothing wrong with calling people out, reminding them of their responsibilities, in this age where luxury installed complacency in the youth.
This documentary is also very insightful, shows where the old generation of gangster rap came from and how it was a turning point:
Nothing special, but better than most commercial stuff,, is this guy played on radio and on tv everywhere? If so i guess it's all good,, but if not he's just another person with a message that will never reach enough people for anything good to happen.
Does anyone notice something strange about his eyes in that video? Like is it some sort of cg or contacts....they look like they are glowing. Maybe its just the lighting...Its what most drew my attention.
Despite not listening to a large amount of hip hop, I did find this surprisingly good. I tend to like songs that tell a story, or are implying a message and this one does rather well.
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