EPTThe ill mind of Hopsin - Page 9
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MethodSC
United States928 Posts
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:01 AnYvia wrote: Compared to other underground rappers like Immortal Technique or Dumbfoundead this guy is trash. Immortal Technique is the most overrated rapper in the industry. | ||
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PainTraiN94
Germany24 Posts
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
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t0ab
Sweden39 Posts
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SKDN
Sweden243 Posts
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Staboteur
Canada1873 Posts
Obviously it -is- a positive contribution for anyone to put out a message that -might- help -someone-, but if the majority of the audience isn't taking the message itself as personal to themselves and instead doing what I do, I think the actual value of this dude's efforts could be overestimated. Cool topic, OP. Makes me think on things I probably wouldn't otherwise  | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
Music's primary purpose is for entertainment. It's subjective so not everyone's gonna enjoy it. If you like his style of music then you like it. You usually don't listen to someone thinking that you can really get your intellectual horizons broadened. If you want some real and more stimulating food for thought, go read a book. this guy is pretty dope. like someone said earlier, he seems like a black eninem haha YEEEE BOIIIII | ||
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Dankleteer
United States1430 Posts
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ArrowInTheKnee
United States28 Posts
On July 22 2012 15:09 Dankleteer wrote: Andrew Noz, a hip hop writer, I think I agree with this: "Hopsin is corny, bruh. He’s alright at rapping on a purely technical level, I guess, but there’s this persistent theater kid try hardness to his style and delivery that makes it pretty difficult to stomach. I have roughly the same complaint about Tech N9ne but Tech is actually incredibly talented when it comes to writing and chopping and styling. Hopsin’s just wandering aimlessly through old Eminem flows. His continued baiting of Odd Future is beyond desperate too. What the fuck is that beef supposed to be about? Contact lenses?". Noz also said that Roscoe Dash, Danny Brown and Future all have better rapping skills than Hopsin lol. Edit: http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=7211#more-7211 The blog being refrenced if you want the direct quotes. | ||
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BluePanther
United States2776 Posts
On July 22 2012 20:35 ArrowInTheKnee wrote: Noz also said that Roscoe Dash, Danny Brown and Future all have better rapping skills than Hopsin lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4e79n4nYc Edit: http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=7211#more-7211 The blog being refrenced if you want the direct quotes. the first two guys in the video are sooo much better than the rest. | ||
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valium
United States251 Posts
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Dankleteer
United States1430 Posts
On July 22 2012 20:35 ArrowInTheKnee wrote: Noz also said that Roscoe Dash, Danny Brown and Future all have better rapping skills than Hopsin lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4e79n4nYc Edit: http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=7211#more-7211 The blog being refrenced if you want the direct quotes. If you don't think Danny Brown can outrap Hopsin you need to study more rap, learn some things about cadence and delivery. I can't speak for Roscoe, but as far as Future is concerned Noz is right in that Future doesn't really put together traditional rap songs, so technically skilled rapping isn't really part of his artistic MO. You think mechanically biting Eminem's flows is skillful rapping? Please. There is no creativity to his verse and flow structure. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
Arrested Development would be a hip-hop group that I can think of (an old one) that I think is actually positive and meaningful in their lyrics, as opposed to lyrics that are simply insulting the people that "deserve" to be insulted. | ||
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Dankleteer
United States1430 Posts
On July 24 2012 05:29 Leporello wrote: I find it weird people say the video in the TC is being "positive" and "meaningful". Because that sounds like basic trash-talk. Trash-talking drug-users, gangsters and other rappers might be warranted to some of you, but it is still trash-talking. Arrested Development would be a hip-hop group that I can think of (an old one) that I think is actually positive and meaningful in their lyrics, as opposed to lyrics that are simply insulting the people that "deserve" to be insulted. Agree with this. Being positive doesn't mean insulting negativity. Hopsin's message isn't positive, it's actually pretty pessimistic and self-serious. +1 to Arrested Development. Also look at a group like De La Soul. Also interested in critiquing the pitfalls of modern culture, but they did it with humor and satire, ultimately giving the social commentary a positive feel. THATS HOW YOU DO IT HOMIE. | ||
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YouMake
United States262 Posts
On July 19 2012 15:59 Silidons wrote: and then check out Eyedea who annihilated him freestyle.... that guy actually has some skills, i won't be listening to him, but he's 100x better than emninem/wayne/khalifa/etc. my two favorites.... Eyedea & Abilities Binary Star Eyedea Slug RA The Rugged Man Immortal Technique AOTP Jedi Mind Tricks Vinnie Paz Sage Francis Gangstarr So many good hip hop artist out there your just looking in all the wrong places. I got a bunch more if interested PM me. | ||
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
I dunno if I'll bother keeping the few tracks of his I liked after trying a bunch of his releases. Dude just seems to bring some unnecessary negativity and fakeness to the stage and it's particularly lame when he t ries to present himself as being original, a decent role model who doesn't just brainwash kids into valuing stupid shit, or being a "real" mc. He's definitely not. Hell, he even admits that he's just an outright asshole. Is the act of publicly broadcasting it supposed to do anything to stop that trait from repelling people from you? Cuz it's not for me. | ||
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Genjimaru
Canada515 Posts
I think I'll stick to my Blue Scholar's, Common Market, etc. | ||
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ArrowInTheKnee
United States28 Posts
On July 24 2012 04:44 Dankleteer wrote: If you don't think Danny Brown can outrap Hopsin you need to study more rap, learn some things about cadence and delivery. I can't speak for Roscoe, but as far as Future is concerned Noz is right in that Future doesn't really put together traditional rap songs, so technically skilled rapping isn't really part of his artistic MO. You think mechanically biting Eminem's flows is skillful rapping? Please. There is no creativity to his verse and flow structure. That's the thing though, I don't like Danny's delivery. The way he changes his vocal tones all over the place just doesn't sit right with me, delivery isn't very objective though so it's tough to base skill off of it. What can be agreed on is that Hopsin can flow a lot faster (I personally think his flow is better, but to leave opinion out I'll keep it in terms of speed). Case in point. And I get Future doesn't appeal to people because of his rapping skills, which is why it bugs me that he gave him and Hopsin both a 6/10 in that category lol. With the Eminem comparison you're talking about creativity, not skill in rapping. If I could perfectly copy Busta Rhymes flow I might not be very creative, but I would still be more skilled than the majority of rappers out there. Not arguing against the comparison though, he feels exactly like an early 90s Em. | ||
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