On July 19 2012 16:35 xodarap wrote: This track is just like every other track dissing the entirety of rap culture over the past twenty years. Nothing new. I was expecting an actual message similar to ATCQ or De La Soul.
I'm sorry? Telling the mass of retards to smarten the fuck up and contribute to society is a pretty good message to me.
It's easy to tell people to 'smarten the fuck up and contribute' when you come from a priviledged background. Rap isn't about that shit. It's gotta be real.
That's a good way to look at it... Has to come from a shitty background to REALLY GET IT -.- "It's gotta be real", nothing about the message I heard was unreal.
This gotta come from the ghetto to understand bullshit really frustrates me, a lot of people have been poor and got away from it (including myself) because I put my fucking left foot forward... I come from shit, and I think it was "real" enough for me to equate the message. I didn't know you needed to be in the shit to see the shit.
To many stupid fucking kids, with stupid ideologies and stupid ideas of what is fun... To many stupid fucking parents who allow there kids to do whatever the hell they want. You want to know what's "real"? Human beings being idiots, one thing that's never changed, no matter the carrier of the message.
And if this is not "new" than the entire rap community (which evidently must be a piece of shit since it's been "dissed" so hard) should simply peace out, because I'm tired of gangstas from the motherfucking hood walking around in 200 dollar shoes living in 500 a month rooms raping/killing and shitting on everyone around them because they're "ill" or "tough"...
TLDR: This shits real, because the message is real, you don't have to be in it to know it. I heard the message, I was living in a one room house with 6 people (2 parents 4 kids) and I completely agreed with it.
EDIT: If you like this type of message, I'd check out the album Harakiri by Serj Tankian (released recently) it's sick but it more or less deals with the world (not just people from poverty)
On July 19 2012 16:35 xodarap wrote: This track is just like every other track dissing the entirety of rap culture over the past twenty years. Nothing new. I was expecting an actual message similar to ATCQ or De La Soul.
I'm sorry? Telling the mass of retards to smarten the fuck up and contribute to society is a pretty good message to me.
It's easy to tell people to 'smarten the fuck up and contribute' when you come from a priviledged background. Rap isn't about that shit. It's gotta be real.
You're born into problems but the problem isn't inherently you. he's saying smarten up and get out of the loop you're so blindly walking in in a very aggresive manner. its a unique style that i haven't heard before. at least i think its uncommon
If you listened to the song I posted, the solution is to empower, not to berate. Its a thin line, but significant.
i thought that hopsin's delivery is berating but his msg and solution is also to empower. in a sense his msg and solution is similar to what you linked and i'd go as far as to say the msg is very similar to shing02 and nujabes' luv(sic). the msg is the same but the delivery are polar opposites.
On July 19 2012 16:35 xodarap wrote: This track is just like every other track dissing the entirety of rap culture over the past twenty years. Nothing new. I was expecting an actual message similar to ATCQ or De La Soul.
I'm sorry? Telling the mass of retards to smarten the fuck up and contribute to society is a pretty good message to me.
It's easy to tell people to 'smarten the fuck up and contribute' when you come from a priviledged background. Rap isn't about that shit. It's gotta be real.
That's a good way to look at it... Has to come from a shitty background to REALLY GET IT -.- "It's gotta be real", nothing about the message I heard was unreal.
This gotta come from the ghetto to understand bullshit really frustrates me, a lot of people have been poor and got away from it (including myself) because I put my fucking left foot forward... I come from shit, and I think it was "real" enough for me to equate the message. I didn't know you needed to be in the shit to see the shit.
To many stupid fucking kids, with stupid ideologies and stupid ideas of what is fun... To many stupid fucking parents who allow there kids to do whatever the hell they want. You want to know what's "real"? Human beings being idiots, one thing that's never changed, no matter the carrier of the message.
And if this is not "new" than the entire rap community (which evidently must be a piece of shit since it's been "dissed" so hard) should simply peace out, because I'm tired of gangstas from the motherfucking hood walking around in 200 dollar shoes living in 500 a month rooms raping/killing and shitting on everyone around them because they're "ill" or "tough"...
TLDR: This shits real, because the message is real, you don't have to be in it to know it. I heard the message, I was living in a one room house with 6 people (2 parents 4 kids) and I completely agreed with it.
EDIT: If you like this type of message, I'd check out the album Harakiri by Serj Tankian (released recently) it's sick but it more or less deals with the world (not just people from poverty)
What a post. I agree with it entirely, the rap points out the obvious shit in today's society and reminding people just how stupid it is. And huge props for including Serj Tankian aswell.
This song in isolation might be alright but this guy as a whole is pretty meh. He has a lot of songs that are about his petty feuds with other rappers, and with that taken into account this song has very little meaning to me.
People love to jump on bandwagons.
KRS, De La Soul, Nas, and many other rappers have been doing this self-critique thing with much more depth and positivity than this.
On July 19 2012 16:35 xodarap wrote: This track is just like every other track dissing the entirety of rap culture over the past twenty years. Nothing new. I was expecting an actual message similar to ATCQ or De La Soul.
I'm sorry? Telling the mass of retards to smarten the fuck up and contribute to society is a pretty good message to me.
Rappers have been trying to push that message for 20 years. Listen to Wu-Tang forever. Then they go and get arrested for domestic violence or blow themselves up tryign to cook up some crack. Theyre just hypocrites.
Even without the "meaningful message" he's a fun rapper. Most of the time rappers just mumble they rap and I prefer a guy that'll enunciate and show some conviction! Thanks for showin' me this guy =D
This just proves to how our generation is 95% sheep following the fucking mainstream. This guy is not original and is too simple compared to people like Pac and Nas who have said the same shit 20 years ago and have done it even better but still people jump on his dick like he is the first rapper to try and change people's minds. When you tell stupid kids who listen to Wayne to try to listen to old school rap and see how meaningful it is they just blush you off and call it whack and boring. Then 1 year later this dumb ass who has a different money plan compared to other rappers in our time comes up as the next hot shit and people say you should listen to him because he actually has a message. Fuck that.
On July 19 2012 22:52 koreasilver wrote: This song in isolation might be alright but this guy as a whole is pretty meh. He has a lot of songs that are about his petty feuds with other rappers, and with that taken into account this song has very little meaning to me.
People love to jump on bandwagons.
KRS, De La Soul, Nas, and many other rappers have been doing this self-critique thing with much more depth and positivity than this.
Second on this notion, same shit, different day, different generation unaware of what has come before. If you dig it, I dig it, just don't pretend this is some new perspective. Misanthropy and a critique of ones cultural or artistic collective ain't some new song and dance.
Yeah what a deep meaningful message... this is stuff every single thoughtful person should've realized by the time the hit 16 years old, not some profound notion that's gonna change hip hop. Hopsin might be slightly better than your average uber-commercial rapper, but there's still a shit-ton of amazing, creative less known groups and artists, and this guy is Lil Wayne compared to them. -> Dälek
Garbage voice, lyrics AND delivery. Yo his whole catalogue sucks. His "message" isn't anything a baboon who smacks himself couldn't figure out on his own.
he's alright but his beats could still use work. i'll probably check it out if i ever run into more of his music and folks are still calling it larger than life.
On July 19 2012 22:57 Equity213 wrote: I love how whenever some rapper avoids criminality in one song, were all supposed to praise what a great message he has. Fuck that shit.
Dont get me wrong, I actually like some rap, but dont pretend its got some deep meaning, its trash.
in a thread full of white & nerdy scandinavian rap elitists saying all the worthy conscious rap was made before their big brothers were born, you actually take the cake in managing to type out the most arrogant, dismissive post. you're really informed and intelligent enough to make claims like that? same can be said for a lot of others, c'mon, this isn't exactly ultra unoriginal */***** material even if you hate it and want to be a dick.
vv yeah, you're, uhh, right. keep on trucking lil' guy. i'm sure you have lots of smart people things to do and indulge in.
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