How can you name 50+ rappers with a better flow let alone rhymes?
Some people listen to a lot of hip hop? He raps in a pretty simplistic style: 4x4 with a less than impressive vocab. He has good vocal dynamics but that's about it.
The reason what he's saying is so awesome is it's essentially Eminem in the Shady Era saying it
The reason it's awesome is because someone else did it (better) before him?
yet you can list no one. Also what is a 4x4? That doesn't make sense to me, what I hear is a constant changing of flow and delivery that sounds much different than anything that could be considered "simplistic."
Saying that it's 4x4 is a funny criticism because the only mainstream hit song ever written that isn't 4x4 is money by Pink Floyd. It just refers to the time signature of the song and there's nothing inherently wrong with it.
Hopsin is sick, he obviously has substance and is incredibly impressive because he's done everything for himself. He started his own record label, he produces all his own music and videos and content, he directs his own videos, he literally does EVERYTHING himself which is extremely rare and impressive. He built everything.
He is a legit living legend of independently produced music careers.
On July 19 2012 16:35 xodarap wrote: This track is just like every other track dissing the entirety of rap culture over the past twenty years. Nothing new. I was expecting an actual message similar to ATCQ or De La Soul.
I'm sorry? Telling the mass of retards to smarten the fuck up and contribute to society is a pretty good message to me.
Uhhh coz he's right........ Not a new message really, flow from the 90's (he is from tech9 afterall) beats are pretty lame. Meh.......
I'll just copypaste what I wrote on FB regarding another bandwagon fan of this horrible song, as I'm too tired to rewrite the entire note:
Don't want to spark any debate or act like a hater, but I've seen this guy's career since day one and can truly say that his lyrics are nothing out of the ordinary. The story portrayed in this video (one could say he's referring to the teenagers of today's society en masse) has been told 100 times over by various rappers, including Eminem who's touched on this about half a dozen times through different songs.
His flow is smooth but can be compared to dozens of rappers that have the same rhythm, and the only reason people are hopping on the bandwagon (by no means an I speaking about you, just in general from the Reddit post this morning) is because he portrays a "positive" story which is apparently a rarity in hip hop by society's standard.
I can name a dozen underground artists that don't reach 1/10th of Hopsin's exposure that have stories of their actual lives that are a lot more realistic than this. I suppose that's the way YouTube works. My bad, just seen this posted about 30 times on FB and have knowledge that you're in the know regarding music
To name a few that are just becoming recognized that deserve more attention than this (just a few): SoulChef Logic Intuition Dumbfoundead D-Pryde (his older music, not so much his new pop-influenced shit)
Also a list of a few artists both new and old that one should consider listening to before considering Hopsin as a god:
How can you name 50+ rappers with a better flow let alone rhymes?
Some people listen to a lot of hip hop? He raps in a pretty simplistic style: 4x4 with a less than impressive vocab. He has good vocal dynamics but that's about it.
The reason what he's saying is so awesome is it's essentially Eminem in the Shady Era saying it
The reason it's awesome is because someone else did it (better) before him?
yet you can list no one. Also what is a 4x4? That doesn't make sense to me, what I hear is a constant changing of flow and delivery that sounds much different than anything that could be considered "simplistic."
Saying that it's 4x4 is a funny criticism because the only mainstream hit song ever written that isn't 4x4 is money by Pink Floyd. It just refers to the time signature of the song and there's nothing inherently wrong with it.
Hopsin is sick, he obviously has substance and is incredibly impressive because he's done everything for himself. He started his own record label, he produces all his own music and videos and content, he directs his own videos, he literally does EVERYTHING himself which is extremely rare and impressive. He built everything.
He is a legit living legend of independently produced music careers.
Haters gonna hate.
A few things.
First, there have been a ton of non-4/4 mainstream hits, largely in 3/4 or 6/8. "Money" is probably one of the only big hits in a truly irregular time signature though, but I'm not positive.
Second, he wasn't talking about how the songs are in 4/4, which is expected. Even in a 4/4 song, you expect better flow than simply following all the natural stresses of the beat. You shouldn't rap in a mechanically 4/4 way over a 4/4 song. It's far more impressive to add an additional rhythm and source of syncopation with your own flow.
edit:
Trying to think of some irregular time signature hits off the top of my head. "Spoonman" by Soundgarden was pretty big and its verses are 7/4 (same as "Money"). Does "Schism" by Tool count as a hit? It got a decent amount of radio play.
I'm pretty big into hiphop and thought he was spectacularly meh. Rhymes were pretty nice but I find his flow is worse than even a lot of mainstream rappers (except Kanye West, f that guy). And yeah, like a billion people before me have said, its nothing super original like some people seem to think it is.
On July 20 2012 02:43 Bibbit wrote: I'm pretty big into hiphop and thought he was spectacularly meh. Rhymes were pretty nice but I find his flow is worse than even a lot of mainstream rappers (except Kanye West, f that guy). And yeah, like a billion people before me have said, its nothing super original like some people seem to think it is.
Uhhh who's flow in the mainstream better than his? You have two choices: Pitbull or Flo Rida
How can you name 50+ rappers with a better flow let alone rhymes?
Some people listen to a lot of hip hop? He raps in a pretty simplistic style: 4x4 with a less than impressive vocab. He has good vocal dynamics but that's about it.
The reason what he's saying is so awesome is it's essentially Eminem in the Shady Era saying it
The reason it's awesome is because someone else did it (better) before him?
yet you can list no one. Also what is a 4x4? That doesn't make sense to me, what I hear is a constant changing of flow and delivery that sounds much different than anything that could be considered "simplistic."
Saying that it's 4x4 is a funny criticism because the only mainstream hit song ever written that isn't 4x4 is money by Pink Floyd. It just refers to the time signature of the song and there's nothing inherently wrong with it.
Hopsin is sick, he obviously has substance and is incredibly impressive because he's done everything for himself. He started his own record label, he produces all his own music and videos and content, he directs his own videos, he literally does EVERYTHING himself which is extremely rare and impressive. He built everything.
He is a legit living legend of independently produced music careers.
Haters gonna hate.
A few things.
First, there have been a ton of non-4/4 mainstream hits, largely in 3/4 or 6/8. "Money" is probably one of the only big hits in a truly irregular time signature though, but I'm not positive.
Second, he wasn't talking about how the songs are in 4/4, which is expected. Even in a 4/4 song, you expect better flow than simply following all the natural stresses of the beat. You shouldn't rap in a mechanically 4/4 way over a 4/4 song. It's far more impressive to add an additional rhythm and source of syncopation with your own flow.
edit:
Trying to think of some irregular time signature hits off the top of my head. "Spoonman" by Soundgarden was pretty big and its verses are 7/4 (same as "Money"). Does "Schism" by Tool count as a hit? It got a decent amount of radio play.
Oh so thats what was being talked about, thats almost completely irrelevant regarding a rappers flow though imo. Bar structure was what I thought he was talking about which would've made sense.
On July 20 2012 02:33 viOLetFanClub wrote: I'll just copypaste what I wrote on FB regarding another bandwagon fan of this horrible song, as I'm too tired to rewrite the entire note:
Don't want to spark any debate or act like a hater, but I've seen this guy's career since day one and can truly say that his lyrics are nothing out of the ordinary. The story portrayed in this video (one could say he's referring to the teenagers of today's society en masse) has been told 100 times over by various rappers, including Eminem who's touched on this about half a dozen times through different songs.
His flow is smooth but can be compared to dozens of rappers that have the same rhythm, and the only reason people are hopping on the bandwagon (by no means an I speaking about you, just in general from the Reddit post this morning) is because he portrays a "positive" story which is apparently a rarity in hip hop by society's standard.
I can name a dozen underground artists that don't reach 1/10th of Hopsin's exposure that have stories of their actual lives that are a lot more realistic than this. I suppose that's the way YouTube works. My bad, just seen this posted about 30 times on FB and have knowledge that you're in the know regarding music
To name a few that are just becoming recognized that deserve more attention than this (just a few): SoulChef Logic Intuition Dumbfoundead D-Pryde (his older music, not so much his new pop-influenced shit)
Also a list of a few artists both new and old that one should consider listening to before considering Hopsin as a god:
SoulChef is a great artist but comparing him to a Rapper fails very badly. Logic is a great storyteller but his actually rhyming is back in '96 Intuition and DFD are both actually dope D-pryde would have equal buzz surrounding him if he kept his image going. He changed into being more like wiz khalifa just as he was getting large, I blame that on him being signed and they're probably pushing him towards being much more marketable to current trends.
Currently though, I listen to him, but hopsin raps circles around him.
DFD really is the only one you listed that's could use more exposure and deserves it.
How can you name 50+ rappers with a better flow let alone rhymes?
Some people listen to a lot of hip hop? He raps in a pretty simplistic style: 4x4 with a less than impressive vocab. He has good vocal dynamics but that's about it.
The reason what he's saying is so awesome is it's essentially Eminem in the Shady Era saying it
The reason it's awesome is because someone else did it (better) before him?
yet you can list no one. Also what is a 4x4? That doesn't make sense to me, what I hear is a constant changing of flow and delivery that sounds much different than anything that could be considered "simplistic."
Saying that it's 4x4 is a funny criticism because the only mainstream hit song ever written that isn't 4x4 is money by Pink Floyd. It just refers to the time signature of the song and there's nothing inherently wrong with it.
Hopsin is sick, he obviously has substance and is incredibly impressive because he's done everything for himself. He started his own record label, he produces all his own music and videos and content, he directs his own videos, he literally does EVERYTHING himself which is extremely rare and impressive. He built everything.
He is a legit living legend of independently produced music careers.
Haters gonna hate.
A few things.
First, there have been a ton of non-4/4 mainstream hits, largely in 3/4 or 6/8. "Money" is probably one of the only big hits in a truly irregular time signature though, but I'm not positive.
Second, he wasn't talking about how the songs are in 4/4, which is expected. Even in a 4/4 song, you expect better flow than simply following all the natural stresses of the beat. You shouldn't rap in a mechanically 4/4 way over a 4/4 song. It's far more impressive to add an additional rhythm and source of syncopation with your own flow.
edit:
Trying to think of some irregular time signature hits off the top of my head. "Spoonman" by Soundgarden was pretty big and its verses are 7/4 (same as "Money"). Does "Schism" by Tool count as a hit? It got a decent amount of radio play.
Oh so thats what was being talked about, thats almost completely irrelevant regarding a rappers flow though imo. Bar structure was what I thought he was talking about which would've made sense.
He did use a notation that makes more sense for bars than time signature, but with the poster above me I assumed he was talking about time signatures because what he's saying doesn't make much sense otherwise.
I've been listening to him for a while, and really he's the only rapper I enjoy now. This song is good, but if you look back at some of his older stuff it is just as well done, he's very talented, and he doesn't just rap about sex, drugs, and money, which is a plus, but I would like to see more variation than him just bashing people or life-styles.
On July 20 2012 02:43 Bibbit wrote: I'm pretty big into hiphop and thought he was spectacularly meh. Rhymes were pretty nice but I find his flow is worse than even a lot of mainstream rappers (except Kanye West, f that guy). And yeah, like a billion people before me have said, its nothing super original like some people seem to think it is.
Uhhh who's flow in the mainstream better than his? You have two choices: Pitbull or Flo Rida
I lol'd pretty hard when I saw your post. Mostly cause I was thinking of that shitty song by Pitbull where he goes
"or better yet go to times square and take a picture of me with a kodak"
That little "flow" of his always makes me cringe when I hear it at a club or something. Good god Pitbull is awful.
On July 20 2012 02:43 Bibbit wrote: I'm pretty big into hiphop and thought he was spectacularly meh. Rhymes were pretty nice but I find his flow is worse than even a lot of mainstream rappers (except Kanye West, f that guy). And yeah, like a billion people before me have said, its nothing super original like some people seem to think it is.
Uhhh who's flow in the mainstream better than his? You have two choices: Pitbull or Flo Rida
I lol'd pretty hard when I saw your post. Mostly cause I was thinking of that shitty song by Pitbull where he goes
"or better yet go to times square and take a picture of me with a kodak"
That little "flow" of his always makes me cringe when I hear it at a club or something. Good god Pitbull is awful.
On July 19 2012 16:35 xodarap wrote: This track is just like every other track dissing the entirety of rap culture over the past twenty years. Nothing new. I was expecting an actual message similar to ATCQ or De La Soul.
I'm sorry? Telling the mass of retards to smarten the fuck up and contribute to society is a pretty good message to me.
Uhhh coz he's right........ Not a new message really, flow from the 90's (he is from tech9 afterall) beats are pretty lame. Meh.......
hes not from tech, dont make shit up. lol
all his beats are self made, and self produced.
I'm not, go check his wiki, and know what you're talking about. Who cares if he self made his beats or not, either way. They are pretty bland and lame.
EPT
Listening to other vids of his now!
