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Hyrule19150 Posts
On June 15 2012 00:47 JieXian wrote:Hahaha this is so funny, though somewhat understandable. Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 00:36 bonifaceviii wrote:
The PR behind this is wrong. They should present it as a discount to customers who have an up-to-date browser. 10 points for you hahaha
Gasoline is "discounted" like that in the US for using cash, in my area up to 10c per gallon. Jerks.
On June 15 2012 00:44 blug wrote:
Why is it that IE isn't compatible? Is it to hard for Microsoft to incorporate? Or did Microsoft just expect everyone to change their browsers based on what Microsoft did? MS made stuff work differently because they give no fucks. Stuff that works in 12 other browsers won't work in IE without special code because "fuck you we're Microsoft that's why."
It's a total pain to make stuff IE compatible.
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On June 15 2012 00:45 goiflin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 00:36 bonifaceviii wrote:
The PR behind this is wrong. They should present it as a discount to customers who have an up-to-date browser. That's clever! I do wonder if this is going to get out of line, however. It sets a precedent that allows a website to discount people using certain browsers... does that mean we're going to start having companies like google and mozilla get into bidding wars for exclusive discounts in online stores when you use chrome/firefox? I don't think that's a good idea. It could get out of hand really quick.
I dont think it would really be that big a deal for customers because we arnt restricted to using any one browser. I know I personally have two or three installed. On topic though I think its pretty amusing and reasonable. If it can get people to realise they should be upgrading their browsers then its actually pretty helpful too.
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On June 15 2012 00:50 Kanil wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 00:45 goiflin wrote:On June 15 2012 00:36 bonifaceviii wrote:
The PR behind this is wrong. They should present it as a discount to customers who have an up-to-date browser. That's clever! I do wonder if this is going to get out of line, however. It sets a precedent that allows a website to discount people using certain browsers... does that mean we're going to start having companies like google and mozilla get into bidding wars for exclusive discounts in online stores when you use chrome/firefox? I don't think that's a good idea. It could get out of hand really quick. Given that these browsers are free and you can have several installed at once, this would easily be avoided by just using the discount browser when you wanted to buy something and otherwise never using it. Presumably that's why it hasn't happened yet.
True, true. That's pretty obvious, actually. I kinda feel retarded for not thinking of that, myself.
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On June 15 2012 00:54 haduken wrote:
Kogan has gone nuts.
True, but I also give them credit for making a stance against big browser companies.
In my opinion, this is not a good business decision from them, I think the guy who runs the joint has got heart...
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This is going to backfire. This will only create backlash from the vast majority of people who don't understand the difference between IE and Firefox, let alone IE7 and IE8. If they wanted to do this they should have just quietly stopped supporting IE7 imo.
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On June 15 2012 00:50 Kanil wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 00:45 goiflin wrote:On June 15 2012 00:36 bonifaceviii wrote:
The PR behind this is wrong. They should present it as a discount to customers who have an up-to-date browser. That's clever! I do wonder if this is going to get out of line, however. It sets a precedent that allows a website to discount people using certain browsers... does that mean we're going to start having companies like google and mozilla get into bidding wars for exclusive discounts in online stores when you use chrome/firefox? I don't think that's a good idea. It could get out of hand really quick. Given that these browsers are free and you can have several installed at once, this would easily be avoided by just using the discount browser when you wanted to buy something and otherwise never using it. Presumably that's why it hasn't happened yet.
Or browsers would add support for easily modifying the user-agent string.
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hahaha this is the weirdest idea concerning internet shopping i've ever seen.
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On June 15 2012 00:48 blug wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 00:44 Grobyc wrote:On June 15 2012 00:40 blug wrote:On June 15 2012 00:37 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Or you could just make the ebsite uncombatible with IE7 and be done with it. Im sure the 7 people still using IE7 Can go somewhere else and shop and not be missed. I don't think that's very fair for people who aren't very computer savvy. I know personally that some of my cousins and auntys simply don't use a computer as much as I do and automatically assume IE is the only browser available. So then just update it? If you don't know how to update/install a web browser you really shouldn't be making electronic purchases. I say that with all seriousness too. Those are the type of people who refresh a page during billing, charging them self twice, fall for phishing scams, and end up just not maintaining their computer properly among other things. To bad the world doesn't work like that buddy. Some people simply don't like using computers and only use them for purchasing online and checking their facebook statuses. Sure, they should be learning how to use their computers, the same way drug addicts should straighten up and get a job, not gonna happen xD.
How does that reinforce your first post? In your first post you said it's not fair to them and now you just agreed with me. Saying that's not how the world works isn't a very valid argument. There's nothing stopping them from learning to take care of their property. I would only assume the typical person gets their car taken in for maintenance occasionally. So yeah... seems pretty fair to me.
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I lold.
People should be encouraged to use browsers that arnt terrible.
Seems like a tax on people who are not computer savvy though. (not that its hard to install firefox)
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On June 15 2012 00:36 bonifaceviii wrote:
The PR behind this is wrong. They should present it as a discount to customers who have an up-to-date browser.
That wouldn't have made the news, and equated to a free commercial for them, though.
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On June 15 2012 00:59 Grobyc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 00:48 blug wrote:On June 15 2012 00:44 Grobyc wrote:On June 15 2012 00:40 blug wrote:On June 15 2012 00:37 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Or you could just make the ebsite uncombatible with IE7 and be done with it. Im sure the 7 people still using IE7 Can go somewhere else and shop and not be missed. I don't think that's very fair for people who aren't very computer savvy. I know personally that some of my cousins and auntys simply don't use a computer as much as I do and automatically assume IE is the only browser available. So then just update it? If you don't know how to update/install a web browser you really shouldn't be making electronic purchases. I say that with all seriousness too. Those are the type of people who refresh a page during billing, charging them self twice, fall for phishing scams, and end up just not maintaining their computer properly among other things. To bad the world doesn't work like that buddy. Some people simply don't like using computers and only use them for purchasing online and checking their facebook statuses. Sure, they should be learning how to use their computers, the same way drug addicts should straighten up and get a job, not gonna happen xD. How does that reinforce your first post? In your first post you said it's not fair to them and now you just agreed with me. Saying that's not how the world works isn't a very valid argument. There's nothing stopping them from learning to take care of their property. I would only assume the typical person gets their car taken in for maintenance occasionally. So yeah... seems pretty fair to me.
Perhaps fair wasn't the right word. Perhaps I should of said "bad business practice". It's nothing to do with protecting their property either, it's to do with what browser they are using, and some people don't know about other Browsers. Just because you don't know their are other browsers on the net doesn't mean you aren't careful about online purchases.
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as a webdeveloper i support this tax. some douches still ask "why won't this shit work in ie6".
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On June 15 2012 00:56 Myles wrote:
This is going to backfire. This will only create backlash from the vast majority of people who don't understand the difference between IE and Firefox, let alone IE7 and IE8. If they wanted to do this they should have just quietly stopped supporting IE7 imo.
Doubt it would create backlash from people who don't understand the difference between IE and firefox, they problaby wouldn't even notice they're paying more.
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Bad business practice is driving away customers or acquiescence to grievous demands in order to satisfy them. This, blug, falls under the second. You can't make a moral argument or even a human rights argument about a private business choosing to levy additional charges on more costly customers.
I mean who gives a shit it's internet explorer 7.
On June 15 2012 01:10 solidbebe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 00:56 Myles wrote:
This is going to backfire. This will only create backlash from the vast majority of people who don't understand the difference between IE and Firefox, let alone IE7 and IE8. If they wanted to do this they should have just quietly stopped supporting IE7 imo. Doubt it would create backlash from people who don't understand the difference between IE and firefox, they problaby wouldn't even notice they're paying more.
Pretty good point imo. Where is this printed? On tech oriented websites (Teamliquid is a website focused on computer games; fits the definition. So is Yahoo Finance. If you're managing stocks online then you're probably savvy enough to..). Myles suggests it will create a backlash from non-tech oriented customers. Well.. if they don't read it.. they won't pitchfork..
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this is actually the first i have heard of kogan
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Guys, believe it, IE is the pain in the ass of developers.
Like seriously, IE fucking sucks.
IE FUCKING SUCKS
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I think the issue is more of using IE7 than IE itself. IE9 supports most of the features other browsers support(if not all - I'm not too into this thing so I'm not sure); Wasting time and money in making the site "IE7-friendly" is terrible for them.
Charging extra for using IE7 is clever. People who know shit about computers pay more(hint hint this is an electronics website, you should know things about computers if you use it) and those who simply use good browsers are unaffected.
Maybe it's a way to make people understand that you shouldn't be happy with buggy websites - you should update your damn browser. Having a buggy, non supported website would be bad in the long run for the internet users. It's a good move imo.
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United States5162 Posts
On June 15 2012 01:11 Probe1 wrote:Bad business practice is driving away customers or acquiescence to grievous demands in order to satisfy them. This, blug, falls under the second. You can't make a moral argument or even a human rights argument about a private business choosing to levy additional charges on more costly customers. I mean who gives a shit it's internet explorer 7. Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 01:10 solidbebe wrote:On June 15 2012 00:56 Myles wrote:
This is going to backfire. This will only create backlash from the vast majority of people who don't understand the difference between IE and Firefox, let alone IE7 and IE8. If they wanted to do this they should have just quietly stopped supporting IE7 imo. Doubt it would create backlash from people who don't understand the difference between IE and firefox, they problaby wouldn't even notice they're paying more. Pretty good point imo. Where is this printed? On tech oriented websites (Teamliquid is a website focused on computer games; fits the definition. So is Yahoo Finance. If you're managing stocks online then you're probably savvy enough to..). Myles suggests it will create a backlash from non-tech oriented customers. Well.. if they don't read it.. they won't pitchfork..
They have an announcement on the front page of thier site. LOL
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