If any sentence is given, it would not be for killing the fish but for doing stupid shit like that on youtube.
Jail for eating a live goldfish? - Page 26
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					If any sentence is given, it would not be for killing the fish but for doing stupid shit like that on youtube.  | ||
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					On April 27 2012 00:54 Slakter wrote: This logic is beyond stupid. That's like saying that it's okay to hunt an endangered species just because other animals do it. it's a fish. only reason you care is cause the media. you probably continue your day like all humans selfish and uncare I doubt you go to any dog pounds or rallys to try and save animals from cruelty.  | ||
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					Here is a guy backing me up. + Show Spoiler + Also I would like to cite precedent of using animals to determine witchness. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmF_yXQkVh0&feature=related   | ||
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					On April 27 2012 02:38 Xpace wrote: Why are people linking Fear Factor videos? They always say in every start of the show that you should not attempt anything you see. Geeez. Louis' videos have that too... point?  | ||
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					Exactly...  | ||
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					On April 26 2012 19:17 brum wrote: Seriously...? May as well sue millions of asians, since there is a live fish dish there.. Also, gold fish are considered to be one of the stupidest pets you can get your hands on. Going by this logic you could sue people for trampling on ants. At which size of animal does it become possible to sue someone, lol? in the video doesnt SHOW they ate it.  | ||
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					How does that make a difference?  | ||
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					My sarcastic joke obviously failed ><  | ||
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					TL/DR: We need clearer guidelines to prevent arbitrary litigation in animal cruelty cases.  | ||
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					On April 27 2012 01:50 Arghmyliver wrote: Hey guys! Lets grab our torches and pitchforks and storm Bear Grylls' house! It is COMMON KNOWLEDGE that if you eat live fish for ANY REASON you ARE A WITCH! I can't emphasize this enough. We MUST burn him at the stake, its the only way. Here is a guy backing me up. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q3RogvU5qA Also I would like to cite precedent of using animals to determine witchness. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmF_yXQkVh0&feature=related  hahaha so true. what i cant understand is how people hate on a guy for eating a fish, while they eat their hamburgers, fried chicken and milkshakes... those animals you eat lived their entire lives in horrible conditions before getting shot in the head and their throats slit. accept it or go vegan. otherwise you just look like an idiot.  | ||
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					Also, over the years I've had a lot of animals (frogs, snakes, lizards, etc). So what is the difference between feeding a FEEDER goldfish (sold for the purpose of being given as food to pets) to an animal or person? The way the frogs I've had eat the fish is MUCH more gruesome than the way a person would. Sometimes I think some people treat animals too much like people. If humans didnt have tech, we would be eaten too. It is simply the food chain and the nature of all living things.  | ||
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					My ''exactly'' was aimed at the fact that there is warning signs on both fear factor + louis videos and people should therefore stop saying it's bad to compare fear factor because ''they the only ones with warnign sign derp''. Didnt misunderstand you in any way.  | ||
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					The issue that most people today have a hard time understanding is the issue of well being. We are animals too, but we are different in the idea that we have the ability to view that the retraction of well being is a bad thing--however insignificant the life. Most here have argued that "It's just a goldfish. It's brain capacity/memory/sentience/etc... is miniscule." While this is a factual statement, let me propose the logical inconsistency behind it. What if, on scale, a race of aliens from another world were so intellectually advanced that we appeared to be that of a goldfish's intelligence in comparison to theirs? Quickly we can realize the moral (not talking to you nihilists) dilemma at hand. There obviously is a problem, but to these aliens, we are mere "goldfish" in a pond that will do well in nourishing their bodies. It isn't illegal to them to eat things from other worlds. The pain we feel isn't on the scale of pain that they are capable of feeling--which is much higher. However, I--and I hope you-- would find issue with being eaten, despite being apart of nature and being so insignificant in brain intellect, and maybe even size. While there may be a line that could be drawn as to what is below the point of "what we shouldn't care about" we should not draw this line arbitrarily on the claim of moral ignorance until we find a better answer. We should care about everything that can feel--any--pain, love, attraction, loyalty, and happiness--among others--until, if ever, we find the best suited answer.  | ||
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