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On November 07 2012 04:53 Boraz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 04:49 ayaz2810 wrote:
Not voting personally. Makes no sense in this day and age. Candidates will say anything to get into office. I can't recall a president ever making promises, and then keeping them to the point that I actually said "wow, he did what he said he would do. I'm impressed". If you held a gun to my head, I'd probably pick Obama. Not for any good reason, just because he seems nice enough and I'm incredibly biased against Romney for his religious beliefs. I could never vote for a mormon. That's like voting for a scientologist.
Inb4 it has no impact on how the country is run. It speaks to his state of mind. Mormonism is a pretty kooky cult. And it legitimately scares me that people don't think that's a problem. Can I ask this dude get a warning? Blatantly calling a religion a kooky cult is against TL rules I believe? Cause I once posted something about a religion, not being nice about it, and I got banned. I am Mormon as well, and this "man" has personally offended me. People here so many wrong things about Mormons. If you truly went to a website that wasn't written by an anti-mormon...our religion is just like any other Christian church. We believe in God and Jesus. In the end, that's all that matters. It's called freedom of religion, and Mormonish is actually a very big religion. That is very biased you won't vote for a president because of his religious beliefs. I personally thing Obama is a muslim...but if he was running our country the way it should be run, I wouldn't care.
report a post if you have an issue with its content. No offense, but judging by the content of some of your posts you shouldn't be trying to turn this thread into a warning fest.
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On November 07 2012 05:01 Boraz wrote:
Again, I hope you get a ban...because I've gotten banned for the same crap. As for that whole thing about Joseph Smith. Yes, we believe he saw Jesus Christ and God. We believe he restored the true church upon the face of the earth. Most of that stuff is written just to make the Mormons look weird. We believe he used stones, but you have to read more about our religion...not just some bad description by some newspaper. Come on mods, stop being partial to certain people.
I think they're being partial to realistic world views. Just my two cents tho.
Asserting that Obama is a secret communist Muslim who wanted our embassy attacked as a sacrifice to Allah and THEN complaining about the lack of moderation is pretty hilarious.
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On November 07 2012 04:59 Maxyim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 04:49 Defacer wrote:On November 07 2012 04:42 Boraz wrote:On November 07 2012 04:41 Saryph wrote:On November 07 2012 04:35 Boraz wrote:
All of you posting "Don't vote for Romney" need to stop. Vote for who you think will be the best for our country. For me personally, Obama has told to many lies to be President. Romney is the next logical choice. Voting for a 3rd party canditate won't get that man elected. Vote for Obama or Romney, otherwise your vote is pointless. You're voting for Romney because you think Obama has lied too much? You don't pay that much attention to what Romney says, do you? Libya, Benghazi. Enough said. Not going to debate with somebody who calls Romney a liar because that's the classic response. Did you notice that Romney didn't bring up Libya in the foreign policy debate? Did you also hear that two of the Americans that were killed were not armed forces, but actually CIA operatives, aka US spies? Did you hear that the 'cultural center' the Ambassador was developing was actually, likely, a planned spy headquarters? The reason why Romney shut up about it suddenly is the same reason why Obama is so tight lipped about it -- the Americans that were involved where involved in a covert operation, and blathering on and on about it would probably jeopardize the security of CIA operatives or military personnel in the field. Wrong; Romney did not push Obama on Libya because that was his strategy - he did not push him on anything. He already proved that he can "take" him in the first debate, the "friendly" approach for the second and third debate was a calculated gamble to close the gender gap. Guess what, it worked!
Please, do tell. How does a campaign that entirely hinges on the characterization of the election as a referendum on the incumbent benefit from doing a 180 after seeing their strategy's success bear fruit during and immediately after the first debate? Also, are the words "calculated gamble" the words of a beautiful mind or do they actually come from a credible Romney-related source?
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On November 07 2012 04:57 Boraz wrote:
Again, I don't care what Liberal media says about Benghazi. People died and Obama should have helped. That's what it comes down to. And a President should never lie to the American people. I don't give a crap how bad it'll make him look if he tells the truth.
You must have mastered the art of doublethinking.
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It's this alternate reality a lot of Republicans live in that made me vote Obama. Don't care if I'm now a RINO or whatever. Enjoy losing the sane people in your party.
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Someone is looking at a reality through a monochromatic lense. The questions you should be asking is "how can someone do it better?", "Why do people act the way they do?" and "Why do people disagree with me?". If you find the answers to those questions irrelevant, you are probably not discussing the right issue, with the right people and from a big enough perspective.
There is always more to learn Boraz and some of it is about yourself.
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On November 07 2012 04:59 Maxyim wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 04:49 Defacer wrote:On November 07 2012 04:42 Boraz wrote:On November 07 2012 04:41 Saryph wrote:On November 07 2012 04:35 Boraz wrote:
All of you posting "Don't vote for Romney" need to stop. Vote for who you think will be the best for our country. For me personally, Obama has told to many lies to be President. Romney is the next logical choice. Voting for a 3rd party canditate won't get that man elected. Vote for Obama or Romney, otherwise your vote is pointless. You're voting for Romney because you think Obama has lied too much? You don't pay that much attention to what Romney says, do you? Libya, Benghazi. Enough said. Not going to debate with somebody who calls Romney a liar because that's the classic response. Did you notice that Romney didn't bring up Libya in the foreign policy debate? Did you also hear that two of the Americans that were killed were not armed forces, but actually CIA operatives, aka US spies? Did you hear that the 'cultural center' the Ambassador was developing was actually, likely, a planned spy headquarters? The reason why Romney shut up about it suddenly is the same reason why Obama is so tight lipped about it -- the Americans that were involved where involved in a covert operation, and blathering on and on about it would probably jeopardize the security of CIA operatives or military personnel in the field. Wrong; Romney did not push Obama on Libya because that was his strategy - he did not push him on anything. He already proved that he can "take" him in the first debate, the "friendly" approach for the second and third debate was a calculated gamble to close the gender gap. Guess what, it worked!
What on earth do you call his behavior on the Libya issue in the second debate if not pushing on it? Did we watch the same thing?
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Well enjoy losing your current President then bro.
As for turning this into a warning fest...I've been warned and banned for past things I said. I just want the mods to be impartial, which is impossible to ask because TL mods are notorious for being bad.
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On November 07 2012 05:05 radiatoren wrote:
Someone is looking at a reality through a monochromatic lense. The questions you should be asking is "how can someone do it better?", "Why do people act the way they do?" and "Why do people disagree with me?". If you find the answers to those questions irrelevant, you are probably not discussing the right issue, with the right people and from a big enough perspective.
There is always more to learn Boraz and some of it is about yourself.
Why is somebody from Denmark even posting in here?
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Can you explain why "just vote" is logical though? Voting for a 3rd party candidate who literally has 0% chance of winning is the most pointless voting ever. It would be like just staying home. It means just the same. Explain how voting for somebody that will not win makes any sense?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1912
Made sense then. You could have seen a whole different outcome of that election if Roosevelt never ran.
It may not be this way in this election, but you never know!
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On November 07 2012 05:07 Boraz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 05:05 radiatoren wrote:
Someone is looking at a reality through a monochromatic lense. The questions you should be asking is "how can someone do it better?", "Why do people act the way they do?" and "Why do people disagree with me?". If you find the answers to those questions irrelevant, you are probably not discussing the right issue, with the right people and from a big enough perspective.
There is always more to learn Boraz and some of it is about yourself. Why is somebody from Denmark even posting in here?
Because a certain party (in your presidential election) never ceases to amuse.
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On November 07 2012 05:07 Fueled wrote:Show nested quote +Can you explain why "just vote" is logical though? Voting for a 3rd party candidate who literally has 0% chance of winning is the most pointless voting ever. It would be like just staying home. It means just the same. Explain how voting for somebody that will not win makes any sense? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1912Made sense then. You could have seen a whole different outcome of that election if Roosevelt never ran. It may not be this way in this election, but you never know!
No, we definately know. This isn't 1912. This is 2012. And people are most likely to vote for the 2 main canditates, not some 3rd party.
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On November 07 2012 05:07 Boraz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 05:05 radiatoren wrote:
Someone is looking at a reality through a monochromatic lense. The questions you should be asking is "how can someone do it better?", "Why do people act the way they do?" and "Why do people disagree with me?". If you find the answers to those questions irrelevant, you are probably not discussing the right issue, with the right people and from a big enough perspective.
There is always more to learn Boraz and some of it is about yourself. Why is somebody from Denmark even posting in here?
It's interessting/funny after all
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On November 07 2012 05:07 Boraz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 05:05 radiatoren wrote:
Someone is looking at a reality through a monochromatic lense. The questions you should be asking is "how can someone do it better?", "Why do people act the way they do?" and "Why do people disagree with me?". If you find the answers to those questions irrelevant, you are probably not discussing the right issue, with the right people and from a big enough perspective.
There is always more to learn Boraz and some of it is about yourself. Why is somebody from Denmark even posting in here?
Because the presence of international posters is one of the reasons TL is a great place to hang out on the internet. Take your hating elsewhere.
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On November 07 2012 05:08 Boraz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 05:07 Fueled wrote:Can you explain why "just vote" is logical though? Voting for a 3rd party candidate who literally has 0% chance of winning is the most pointless voting ever. It would be like just staying home. It means just the same. Explain how voting for somebody that will not win makes any sense? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1912Made sense then. You could have seen a whole different outcome of that election if Roosevelt never ran. It may not be this way in this election, but you never know! No, we definately know. This isn't 1912. This is 2012. And people are most likely to vote for the 2 main canditates, not some 3rd party.
You never know
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On November 07 2012 05:05 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 04:59 Maxyim wrote:On November 07 2012 04:49 Defacer wrote:On November 07 2012 04:42 Boraz wrote:On November 07 2012 04:41 Saryph wrote:On November 07 2012 04:35 Boraz wrote:
All of you posting "Don't vote for Romney" need to stop. Vote for who you think will be the best for our country. For me personally, Obama has told to many lies to be President. Romney is the next logical choice. Voting for a 3rd party canditate won't get that man elected. Vote for Obama or Romney, otherwise your vote is pointless. You're voting for Romney because you think Obama has lied too much? You don't pay that much attention to what Romney says, do you? Libya, Benghazi. Enough said. Not going to debate with somebody who calls Romney a liar because that's the classic response. Did you notice that Romney didn't bring up Libya in the foreign policy debate? Did you also hear that two of the Americans that were killed were not armed forces, but actually CIA operatives, aka US spies? Did you hear that the 'cultural center' the Ambassador was developing was actually, likely, a planned spy headquarters? The reason why Romney shut up about it suddenly is the same reason why Obama is so tight lipped about it -- the Americans that were involved where involved in a covert operation, and blathering on and on about it would probably jeopardize the security of CIA operatives or military personnel in the field. Wrong; Romney did not push Obama on Libya because that was his strategy - he did not push him on anything. He already proved that he can "take" him in the first debate, the "friendly" approach for the second and third debate was a calculated gamble to close the gender gap. Guess what, it worked! What on earth do you call his behavior on the Libya issue in the second debate if not pushing on it? Did we watch the same thing?
It wasn't a push. It was more of a "Let me stumble headlong into this deep hole I dug myself, and here Obama - here's a shovel"
Anyways - that'll be the last of my leftist passive-aggressive posts. Boraz - you are repeating a lot of talking points that we've seen previously in the thread that:
a) Are lacking merit or source
b) Are single minded and blind to other views
c) Could use more expansion, but you don't want to do so
The reason why you are getting hammered so bad from multiple users is because these points are not the best points Romney supports have been using in this thread (well, Benghazi was xDaunt's favorite weapon, but he's MIA right now).
Dangit he's banned...
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On November 07 2012 05:08 Boraz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 05:07 Fueled wrote:Can you explain why "just vote" is logical though? Voting for a 3rd party candidate who literally has 0% chance of winning is the most pointless voting ever. It would be like just staying home. It means just the same. Explain how voting for somebody that will not win makes any sense? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1912Made sense then. You could have seen a whole different outcome of that election if Roosevelt never ran. It may not be this way in this election, but you never know! No, we definately know. This isn't 1912. This is 2012. And people are most likely to vote for the 2 main canditates, not some 3rd party.
Fuck it.
You're stupid, shut up already.
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On November 07 2012 05:08 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 05:07 Boraz wrote:On November 07 2012 05:05 radiatoren wrote:
Someone is looking at a reality through a monochromatic lense. The questions you should be asking is "how can someone do it better?", "Why do people act the way they do?" and "Why do people disagree with me?". If you find the answers to those questions irrelevant, you are probably not discussing the right issue, with the right people and from a big enough perspective.
There is always more to learn Boraz and some of it is about yourself. Why is somebody from Denmark even posting in here? Why wouldnt people from other countries post here?
Cause we're communists and the US election doesn't effect us or the rest of the planet in any way.
Duh.
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On November 07 2012 05:06 Boraz wrote:
Well enjoy losing your current President then bro.
As for turning this into a warning fest...I've been warned and banned for past things I said. I just want the mods to be impartial, which is impossible to ask because TL mods are notorious for being bad.
You have anything to back up this statement? All my friends who voted Republican last election followed suit with me and voted Obama this election. As far as I can tell, from my point of view only, there's enough people like me disgusted with the Republican party and abandoning it than those swapping their 2008 votes from Obama to Romney. Polls also seem to agree with me.
Edit: You got banned by those commie mods. Ah well
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