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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

If you make an uninformed post, or one that isn't relevant to the discussion, you will be moderated. If in doubt, don't post.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
July 14 2013 04:50 GMT
#8741
On July 14 2013 13:48 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 13:47 ey215 wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:34 TmixX wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:12 NEOtheONE wrote:
Man the Twitter reactions to the verdict are something else. Celebrities in particular are painfully ignorant of the details of the trial.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/celebrities-on-twitter-react-to-george-zimmermans-acquittal


Roddy White@roddywhiteTV Follow
All them jurors should go home tonight and kill themselves for letting a grown man get away with killing a kid

yikes. what a piece of trash


I suspect that's going to be the shitstorm on the radio here in Atlanta on Monday. That was a really dumb thing to say.


What was said? (by Wil Wheaton)


Wil Wheaton@wilw Follow
Stalking and shooting unarmed teenagers because you’re a paranoid racist! AMIRIGHTGUYS?! YEAH!#FuckYouGeorgeZimmermanDieInAFire
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
July 14 2013 04:50 GMT
#8742
On July 14 2013 13:47 ey215 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 13:34 TmixX wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:12 NEOtheONE wrote:
Man the Twitter reactions to the verdict are something else. Celebrities in particular are painfully ignorant of the details of the trial.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/celebrities-on-twitter-react-to-george-zimmermans-acquittal


Roddy White@roddywhiteTV Follow
All them jurors should go home tonight and kill themselves for letting a grown man get away with killing a kid

yikes. what a piece of trash


I suspect that's going to be the shitstorm on the radio here in Atlanta on Monday. That was a really dumb thing to say.


Yea, probably going to be deleted ASAP but too late, you cant hide things like that from the Internet.
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 14 2013 04:50 GMT
#8743
On July 14 2013 13:48 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 13:47 ey215 wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:34 TmixX wrote:
On July 14 2013 13:12 NEOtheONE wrote:
Man the Twitter reactions to the verdict are something else. Celebrities in particular are painfully ignorant of the details of the trial.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/celebrities-on-twitter-react-to-george-zimmermans-acquittal


Roddy White@roddywhiteTV Follow
All them jurors should go home tonight and kill themselves for letting a grown man get away with killing a kid

yikes. what a piece of trash


I suspect that's going to be the shitstorm on the radio here in Atlanta on Monday. That was a really dumb thing to say.


What was said? (by Wil Wheaton)



Just reading through this thread for the first time. Really surprised by how brash some of the celebrities are being. Not very tactful, regardless of views on the issue.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
July 14 2013 04:52 GMT
#8744
I love how twitter has made it possible for people to say things that they will probably regret latter on. To rephrase an old saying; some people need to think before they tweat.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
July 14 2013 04:54 GMT
#8745
It's not like being celebrities magically makes them rational people. They just have a bigger platform for spreading their stupid rants.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
July 14 2013 04:54 GMT
#8746
On July 14 2013 13:54 RuskiPanda wrote:
It's not like being celebrities magically makes them rational people. They just have a bigger platform for spreading their stupid rants.


The problem is when they get quoted as if its of higher authority.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 14 2013 04:55 GMT
#8747
I find weiners the most interesting.

Keep Trayvon's family in our prayers. Deeply unsatisfying verdict. Trial by jury is our only choice in a democracy.

I do believe he is both suggesting that he is unsatisfied by trial by jury and democracy (democracy being understandable considering the founders said it is the worst form of government, but I doubt weiner knows that if he's suggesting what it sounds like he is).
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 14 2013 04:57 GMT
#8748
On July 14 2013 13:52 hiro protagonist wrote:
I love how twitter has made it possible for people to say things that they will probably regret latter on. To rephrase an old saying; some people need to think before they tweat.


Twitter is full of twits.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
July 14 2013 04:57 GMT
#8749
Pretty sure I just saw Hot_Bid on that stream.

CONFIRM/DENY?
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
TheBigO
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States97 Posts
July 14 2013 04:59 GMT
#8750
I just read an article from Slate.com that I think really epitomizes the feelings from this case.

Source: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/07/zimmerman_acquittal_blame_florida_for_trayvon_martin_s_death.html

I know many people disagree with the verdict. I personally think it is weird how a person can get away with murder. But, due to Floridas' laws, Zimmerman acted within his legal boundaries during the altercation--even if he may have started it.

Overall, I think this case shows that Stand Your Ground may need to be changed or repealed in order to prevent atrocities like this from happening again.
I really need a better quote... but I have no ideas :( .
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 14 2013 04:59 GMT
#8751
On July 14 2013 13:49 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
According to O'Mara's press conference, he said the investigation was quite diligent compared to other cases. Unless there were multiple investigations. I only followed this case starting with the trial but was there a lead investigator before Chris Serino?


Serino was the investigator starting the moment Zimmerman walked into the Police Station, the night of the incident. He interviewed him, conducted the walk through the next day, everything.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 14 2013 05:00 GMT
#8752
On July 14 2013 13:59 TheBigO wrote:
I just read an article from Slate.com that I think really epitomizes the feelings from this case.

Source: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/07/zimmerman_acquittal_blame_florida_for_trayvon_martin_s_death.html

I know many people disagree with the verdict. I personally think it is weird how a person can get away with murder. But, due to Floridas' laws, Zimmerman acted within his legal boundaries during the altercation--even if he may have started it.

Overall, I think this case shows that Stand Your Ground may need to be changed or repealed in order to prevent atrocities like this from happening again.


Would it change your opinion if you were, at some point, educated to the fact that Stand Your Ground had not a fucking thing to do with this case ?
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
July 14 2013 05:01 GMT
#8753
GZ should sue everyone who is talking about "getting away with murder". Would have a pretty good case imo.
This is our town, scrub
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
July 14 2013 05:02 GMT
#8754
On July 14 2013 13:59 Kaitlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 13:49 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
According to O'Mara's press conference, he said the investigation was quite diligent compared to other cases. Unless there were multiple investigations. I only followed this case starting with the trial but was there a lead investigator before Chris Serino?


Serino was the investigator starting the moment Zimmerman walked into the Police Station, the night of the incident. He interviewed him, conducted the walk through the next day, everything.

From what I understand, the case was dropped initially because they just couldn't find anything to really pin Zimmerman on. The media picked it up and turned it into a race war. At least that's how this thread has made it seem, which is corroborated by what I've seen in the news... ahem... Nancy Grace... ahem.

All these people who never followed the news, but put out there statements on twitter need a reality check.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Mayhemia-
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland58 Posts
July 14 2013 05:04 GMT
#8755
If there was profiling, it probably has more to do with the clothing and overall looks of Trayvon Martin than his skin color. Just a thought.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 14 2013 05:04 GMT
#8756
NBC is probably already on a conference call with their attorneys as the moment the juror said not guilty they knew they were screwed.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
July 14 2013 05:05 GMT
#8757
I had a strong feeling he would get manslaughter despite the weak arguments from the prosecutors. Now Zimmerman has to find a way to live a normal life, which might be somewhat difficult
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
July 14 2013 05:06 GMT
#8758
In the midst of all those insane celebrity twits, Donald Trump showing some common sense.

@realDonaldTrump
Zimmerman is no angel but the lack of evidence and the concept of self-defense, especially in Florida law, gave the jury little other choice
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 14 2013 05:06 GMT
#8759
On July 14 2013 13:35 KonekoTyriin wrote:
The verdict may be in accordance with the law, but if so then I disagree quite strongly with the law. From what I understand of the case:

Zimmerman shot Martin with a gun. Because there was no prior intent (probably) and it was in self defense (almost certainly), it's reasonable that he did not intend to kill Martin. This sounds like an open and shut manslaughter conviction- though if testimony had uncovered intent, it could have been murder.

You can get convicted of manslaughter for building a house incautiously if it results in the house falling and killing someone inside. No matter how little you wanted that person to die or how indirectly your actions led to their death, if you kill someone, you at LEAST get manslaughter.

I don't understand how Zimmerman could possibly walk completely free from this. It does not seem consistent with justice as I understand it.

if you assume its not self defense then of course you cant understand it. the jury found it was self defense.
TheBigO
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States97 Posts
July 14 2013 05:07 GMT
#8760
On July 14 2013 14:00 Kaitlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 13:59 TheBigO wrote:
I just read an article from Slate.com that I think really epitomizes the feelings from this case.

Source: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/07/zimmerman_acquittal_blame_florida_for_trayvon_martin_s_death.html

I know many people disagree with the verdict. I personally think it is weird how a person can get away with murder. But, due to Floridas' laws, Zimmerman acted within his legal boundaries during the altercation--even if he may have started it.

Overall, I think this case shows that Stand Your Ground may need to be changed or repealed in order to prevent atrocities like this from happening again.


Would it change your opinion if you were, at some point, educated to the fact that Stand Your Ground had not a fucking thing to do with this case ?


Can I ask you to elaborate and provide a source? Because I do believe that Zimmerman was acquitted because he acted in self-defense in accordance to Stand Your Ground. I also believe that the law should be modified in order to prevent possible abuses of Stand Your Ground such as potentially provoking an altercation and then killing the other individual in "self-defense."
I really need a better quote... but I have no ideas :( .
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