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Well, they aren't exactly known for being intelligent.
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On July 14 2013 13:19 publicenemies wrote:Olivia Wilde.. WHY?? 
Same reason as the rest - it's fashionable.
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LOL. Fight just broke out at the Trayvon "vigil" being streamed at that link linked earlier. LMAO. Must have been after they started chanting "No justice, no Peace". Fucking retards. They are now singing the theme song from "Lean on Me" to drown it out and the streamer refuses to show the conflict on camera lol. Censorship lol.
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On July 14 2013 13:25 JonnyBNoHo wrote:Same reason as the rest - it's fashionable.
It's hip and trendy, I mean if Miley Cyrus says something, I just can't disagree... I mean look at her latest fashion trends! She's just fabulous.
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On July 14 2013 13:23 xDaunt wrote:
Not that he will do it, but this is an opportunity for Obama to really do some good by affirming the verdict and encouraging people to settle down.
He should but i don't think he will unless something happens, and calming is needed.
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Ironic they keep chanting "No justice, no peace" in order to honor Trayvon memory.
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Its strange that a guy can investigate a confrontation, then shoot a man and be let off. Least that's how it feels to me. Oh well the jury has spoken. Just hope it doesn't set a bad precedent.
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On July 14 2013 13:28 JumboJohnson wrote:
Its strange that a guy can investigate a confrontation, then shoot a man and be let off. Least that's how it feels to me. Oh well the jury has spoken. Just hope it doesn't set a bad precedent.
I think the real outcry should have just been on how little investigation the police initially did. But, then it quickly devolved into "zimmerman is a racist." If you think he deserved jail time; prosecution should have prosecuted under manslaughter not 2nd degree murder.
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On July 14 2013 13:28 JumboJohnson wrote:
Its strange that a guy can investigate a confrontation, then shoot a man and be let off. Least that's how it feels to me. Oh well the jury has spoken. Just hope it doesn't set a bad precedent.
That was the gut reaction of most of us here. But if you go through all of the evidence that came out during the trial it appears much different, or different enough that convicting him is much more difficult. Cheers.
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On July 14 2013 13:28 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Ironic they keep chanting "No justice, no peace" in order to honor Trayvon memory.
I was thinking the same thing. They feel it is an injustice that there was no peace for Trayvon, therefore there should be no peace. Also the acquittal IS justice, but there probably won't be peace. Also they probably say things like "rest in peace Trayvon" and then say "no peace".
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On July 14 2013 13:23 xDaunt wrote:
Not that he will do it, but this is an opportunity for Obama to really do some good by affirming the verdict and encouraging people to settle down.
But Obamas sons killer was just found innocent!
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On July 14 2013 13:28 JumboJohnson wrote:
Its strange that a guy can investigate a confrontation, then shoot a man and be let off. Least that's how it feels to me. Oh well the jury has spoken. Just hope it doesn't set a bad precedent.
Did you keep up with the trial?
EDIT: although the evidence is largely lacking it appears that Zimmerman was essentially jumped based on the evidence available.
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Roddy White@roddywhiteTV Follow
All them jurors should go home tonight and kill themselves for letting a grown man get away with killing a kid
yikes. what a piece of trash
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The verdict may be in accordance with the law, but if so then I disagree quite strongly with the law. From what I understand of the case:
Zimmerman shot Martin with a gun. Because there was no prior intent (probably) and it was in self defense (almost certainly), it's reasonable that he did not intend to kill Martin. This sounds like an open and shut manslaughter conviction- though if testimony had uncovered intent, it could have been murder.
You can get convicted of manslaughter for building a house incautiously if it results in the house falling and killing someone inside. No matter how little you wanted that person to die or how indirectly your actions led to their death, if you kill someone, you at LEAST get manslaughter.
I don't understand how Zimmerman could possibly walk completely free from this. It does not seem consistent with justice as I understand it.
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On July 14 2013 13:25 JonnyBNoHo wrote:Same reason as the rest - it's fashionable.
Hmm yes but the main reason is that celebrities are susceptible to the same stuff everybody does, news media and their acquaintances ANd obviously they are not more intelligent than your average Joe. When both are pretty much hammering GZ as guilty, only a tiny % really goes to the next step which is to actually watch the trial and balance things out in regards of the law. Personally, I didn't watch must of it all I just followed this thread without making a judgement but there really wasn't anything strong put forward by the prosecutors.
Personally I'm not very happy with absolutely nothing happening to GZ, I still think his actions were stupid and lead to death, that's my heart feeling about this. BUT when it comes to the actual LAWS and EVIDENCES put forward by both sides, justice was delivered imo. Prosecution just failed to prove his guilt.
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All these people are upset about this, but what is sad is that in my city alone, almost 500 black men have been killed after Treyvon mostly by eachother but are dead none the less. Would much rather see them all protesting those deaths as well.
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 14 2013 13:33 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2013 13:28 JumboJohnson wrote:
Its strange that a guy can investigate a confrontation, then shoot a man and be let off. Least that's how it feels to me. Oh well the jury has spoken. Just hope it doesn't set a bad precedent. Did you keep up with the trial? EDIT: although the evidence is largely lacking it appears that Zimmerman was essentially jumped based on the evidence available.
I won't lie, not as much as a should have to have an opinion. But if he was just walking home then I feel my opinion is a least somewhat justifiable.
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On July 14 2013 13:31 wei2coolman wrote:
I think the real outcry should have just been on how little investigation the police initially did.
Since you have an opinion, I assume it is based on something. So, I ask you. What evidence are you aware of that was used in this prosecution that the police failed to investigate "initially" ? All witnesses at the scene were interviewed. The autopsy, forensics, etc were all done "initially". What evidence was subsequently obtained that should be the basis for your "real outcry".
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On July 14 2013 13:34 TmixX wrote:Roddy White@roddywhiteTV Follow All them jurors should go home tonight and kill themselves for letting a grown man get away with killing a kid yikes. what a piece of trash
He should know better ... that's a bit extreme.
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On July 14 2013 13:35 KonekoTyriin wrote:
The verdict may be in accordance with the law, but if so then I disagree quite strongly with the law. From what I understand of the case:
Zimmerman shot Martin with a gun. Because there was no prior intent (probably) and it was in self defense (almost certainly), it's reasonable that he did not intend to kill Martin. This sounds like an open and shut manslaughter conviction- though if testimony had uncovered intent, it could have been murder.
You can get convicted of manslaughter for building a house incautiously if it results in the house falling and killing someone inside. No matter how little you wanted that person to die or how indirectly your actions led to their death, if you kill someone, you at LEAST get manslaughter.
I don't understand how Zimmerman could possibly walk completely free from this. It does not seem consistent with justice as I understand it.
Killing someone in self defense doesn't equate to manslaughter.
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