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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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SnipedSoul
Canada2158 Posts
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
It really seems this jury doesn't have anyone that isn't willing to consider the law and evidence. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
On July 14 2013 09:56 Jormundr wrote: Yeah, white guys in suits tend to steal a lot more money from a lot more people. What a wonderfully non-tangential, non-racial, non-agitprop post that is also likely to further a constructive discussion. I hope the prosecution's lawyers and the judge get disbarred, and that the people who fired the whistle-blower get their own pink slips and all the above get sued out their asses too, they all deserve it very much. Hopefully the DoJ and the church that have been the coordinators behind the anti-Zimmerman protests as well, along with various "civil rights" leaders and organizations that done nothing but stoke racism and slander/libel Zimmerman from day one. This kind of proto-fascist rabble-rousing has been allowed to go on too long. It really seems this jury doesn't have anyone that isn't willing to consider the law and evidence. More likely there is 1 holdout one way or the other the rest are trying to persuade / browbeat into not being a dumbass (in their opinion), give in, and vote their way. Or the jury has fractured into factions which doesn't seem likely but is a possibility with any jury. | ||
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Millitron
United States2611 Posts
On July 14 2013 10:18 DeepElemBlues wrote: What a wonderfully non-tangential post that is also likely to further a constructive discussion. I hope the prosecution's lawyers and the judge get disbarred, and that the people who fired the whistle-blower get their own pink slips and all the above get sued out their asses too, they all deserve it very much. Hopefully the DoJ and the church that have been the coordinators behind the anti-Zimmerman protests as well, along with various "civil rights" leaders and organizations that done nothing but stoke racism and slander/libel Zimmerman from day one. This kind of proto-fascist rabble-rousing has been allowed to go on too long. Proto-fascist is giving them too much credit. Fascists actually succeeded for awhile. Proto-asshole is more accurate. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On July 14 2013 10:04 crms wrote: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-whistleblower-fired-20130713,0,2426704.story IT specialist working for the state in the cell phone evidence has been fired. Apparently it doesn't end here and the prosecutors in the case including Berniede la Rionda, Mr. Guy etc., are undergoing an investigation of ethics violations for not handing over certain evidence timely, or at all. The state prosecutors could end up getting disbarred as a result. http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1i7stu/it_chief_testifying_for_zimmerman_has_now_been/ there is a reddit thread for more discussion. The sub-story to all of this is, even if they get a conviction of Zimmerman, most of them are going to lose their careers. If they don't get a conviction, also expect them to lose civil suits. This story is actually years from being over. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 14 2013 10:18 DeepElemBlues wrote: What a wonderfully non-tangential, non-racial, non-agitprop post that is also likely to further a constructive discussion. I hope the prosecution's lawyers and the judge get disbarred, and that the people who fired the whistle-blower get their own pink slips and all the above get sued out their asses too, they all deserve it very much. Hopefully the DoJ and the church that have been the coordinators behind the anti-Zimmerman protests as well, along with various "civil rights" leaders and organizations that done nothing but stoke racism and slander/libel Zimmerman from day one. This kind of proto-fascist rabble-rousing has been allowed to go on too long. More likely there is 1 holdout one way or the other the rest are trying to persuade / browbeat into not being a dumbass (in their opinion), give in, and vote their way. Or the jury has fractured into factions which doesn't seem likely but is a possibility with any jury. assuming there is no conviction. because if there is an conviction, these people are now saints. to the victor go the spoils. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15394 Posts
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PviLLe3
United States305 Posts
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xDaunt
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dotHead
United States233 Posts
On July 14 2013 10:28 Mohdoo wrote: I'm terrified at the thought of more vigilante justice going on if Zimmerman is not convicted. People like him should not be validated. They are dangerous, insecure, dumbasses on power trips who use "neighborhood watch" as a way to fulfill their wish of being the cop they never were. You have obviously been following the case by watching The Young Turks, go back and read the last few thousand posts in this thread, then go watch the last three weeks of the trial. Then come back and say that same thing. | ||
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GHSTxGlitch
United States20 Posts
On July 14 2013 10:28 Mohdoo wrote: I'm terrified at the thought of more vigilante justice going on if Zimmerman is not convicted. People like him should not be validated. They are dangerous, insecure, dumbasses on power trips who use "neighborhood watch" as a way to fulfill their wish of being the cop they never were. It's not against the law to follow someone. So Zimmerman did nothing wrong. End of story. | ||
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Esk23
United States447 Posts
On July 14 2013 10:28 Mohdoo wrote: I'm terrified at the thought of more vigilante justice going on if Zimmerman is not convicted. People like him should not be validated. They are dangerous, insecure, dumbasses on power trips who use "neighborhood watch" as a way to fulfill their wish of being the cop they never were. I'm terrified of more people like you who don't even know what they are talking about when it comes to this specific case. How closely have you been paying attention to this case? Have you been following the trial closely? Did you get all your info from the mainstream media? | ||
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Microchaton
France342 Posts
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kmillz
United States1548 Posts
On July 14 2013 10:33 dotHead wrote: You have obviously been following the case by watching The Young Turks, go back and read the last few thousand posts in this thread, then go watch the last three weeks of the trial. Then come back and say that same thing. Ugh..The Young Turks are almost as annoying as Sarah Silverman. I'm not surprised to hear that that comment represents what they think of this trial. On July 14 2013 09:56 Jormundr wrote: Yeah, white guys in suits tend to steal a lot more money from a lot more people. I'm a white guy and my work uniform is a suit. What the fuck are you implying exactly? That by simply being white and wearing a suit I'm more likely to be a criminal who steals large amounts of money? | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
Going on the notion of the prosecution having to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was a foul and nefarious thing, I'd say it's highly likely that the jury comes back not guilty. If we consider that the jury are women, and the emotional and media-focused nature of this case, they might ease into manslaughter. | ||
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Microchaton
France342 Posts
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DrSeRRoD
United States490 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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