Shooting of Trayvon Martin - Page 293

On July 08 2013 22:35 BigFan wrote:
hmm wonder what the prosecution was trying to do there. Sounded like he wanted her to slip up. Having her mention she hasn't heard him scream works against the defense imo.

On July 08 2013 22:45 jeremycafe wrote:


They just wanted another chance to play his cursing. However she is slipping up pretty bad. To continue to deny hearing George say fucking punks is killing her credibility. She is showing blatant bias by trying to avoid that statement.

I believe it to be his voice, but I no longer believe her to be honest. State won with this witness.

On July 08 2013 20:17 plgElwood wrote:

Gun control alone is not case relevant. "Stand your ground" is.
And allowing to shoot on attackers is pretty dangerous. There were, are and will be cases of overreaction and accidents.
Giving someone the means and the right to kill a person with a twist of a finger should be a thing considered carefully.

On July 08 2013 22:53 Monsoon wrote:



"Stand your ground" is not even relevant to this case. The defense waved a pretrial stand your ground hearing and are simply arguing traditional self-defense.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-convicted-murder-manslaughter/story?id=19598422#.UdrD5m2kUZl

On July 08 2013 23:07 BigFan wrote:
hmm this double trigger can work for Zimmerman's side. Those gun questions and such are interesting to hear.

edit: man, that scream video, so chilling to listen to. So hard to tell who it is. Early on, it sounds like a young voice like Trayvon but later, it sounds older like Zimmerman ><

On July 08 2013 23:41 woody60707 wrote:
Well the State just asked a witness if they wanted the voice they heard to be Zimmermans. How does that very question not tank Martin's mom's testimony? Did the state just gave up any notion to prove that voice could be Martin's?

On July 08 2013 23:41 jeremycafe wrote:


It makes no sense at all to be Trayvon. Why the hell would he be screaming with such desperation as his is kicking someone's ass? To me, it is a joke it is even a question. The parents lying about the voice being Trayvon is the only reason it is in question. Looking forward to the father being asked about his statement of it not being his son. But I am sure they will find some excuse to make it irrelevant.

On July 08 2013 23:50 BigFan wrote:

did the defense ask that same question to his mom?


neither you or me know who's voice it is and neither family members of Zimmerman or Trayvon can be trusted either since this is a trial. Likewise, we can't be sure with certainty that Trayvon was kicking his ass either. Not saying that he didn't fight with Zimmerman or beat him up, just that we don't know just how much.

edit: this defense witness is doing pretty badly imo.

On July 08 2013 23:50 BigFan wrote:

did the defense ask that same question to his mom?


neither you or me know who's voice it is and neither family members of Zimmerman or Trayvon can be trusted either since this is a trial. Likewise, we can't be sure with certainty that Trayvon was kicking his ass either. Not saying that he didn't fight with Zimmerman or beat him up, just that we don't know just how much.

edit: this defense witness is doing pretty badly imo.

On July 09 2013 00:12 Roflstompskin wrote:
Agreed, the evidence has shown he was only punched once or twice and hit his head on the sidewalk once, twice if the side of his head hit. My biggest problem with this case is that, he says was hit a dozen or more times and had his head slammed again and again but it just doesn't look true.

On July 09 2013 00:12 Roflstompskin wrote:
Agreed, the evidence has shown he was only punched once or twice and hit his head on the sidewalk once, twice if the side of his head hit.

My biggest problem with this case is that, he says was hit a dozen or more times and had his head slammed again and again but it just doesn't look true.

On July 09 2013 00:31 dotHead wrote:


The forensic lady the other day, or medical examiner or whatever she was said he was hit a minimum of 4 or 5 times, and that his head hit the sidewalk a minimum of 1 or 2 times. Since she wasn't there, and not all wounds leave marks, no one really knows.




I'm guessing you have never been in a fight, or been punched a dozen or more times. Most people when they are being punched, don't stop and count how many times. Not that it matters, there doesn't need to be a certain amount punches, or wounds for him to show that he was in fear for his life. The professor the other day said seriousness, or amount of wounds don't disprove the need for self defense.

On July 09 2013 00:39 Kaitlin wrote:
Over the weekend, the greatest fighter in the world, Anderson Silva was knocked out with one punch (granted, more punches were thrown, but were irrelevant to the knockout). While he was knocked out, he was unable to defend himself and had he been in Zimmerman's situation, his attacker could have grabbed his weapon and shot him with it. After the fight, Silva had no marks to speak of to indicate any bodily injury.

On July 09 2013 00:15 BigFan wrote:

ya. I think Zimmerman made his story better to make a better case for himself but I do think that Trayvon might've attacked him first out of fear and he panicked. My guess though.

This witness is done lol. Not holding well at all for the defense.

On July 09 2013 00:41 zbedlam wrote:


I don't think anyone is arguing that there is no chance that GZ's life wasn't in danger.

And that is what gloves are for, real punches leave a lot more marks.