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DeathCompany
Profile Joined March 2011
United States53 Posts
March 13 2012 19:35 GMT
#61
Lol with all these percentages being thrown around, I feel like life has turned into a giant MMO. Bacon = 19% Higher mortality rate... Water = 100% mortality rate.
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dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 19:40:31
March 13 2012 19:35 GMT
#62
Expecting "We're also sad to announce that several members of the EpicMealTime-squad has recently passed away." anytime now

On March 14 2012 04:35 DeathCompany wrote:
Lol with all these percentages being thrown around, I feel like life has turned into a giant MMO. Bacon = 19% Higher mortality rate... Water = 100% mortality rate.

I think you are on to something. "There is no natural death, only death from prolonged water drinking"? You Sir, are a genius!
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Aterons_toss
Profile Joined February 2011
Romania1275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 19:40:12
March 13 2012 19:37 GMT
#63
On March 14 2012 03:56 Son of Gnome wrote:
It is worth the risk...

Last time i checked we were omnivores not herbivores, if someone wants to tell me that 99% of meat is bad for me fine.
That study is purely bs, yes people that eat a lot of bacon might have a higher mortality rate due to eating other kind of unhealthy food... etc
And just a fun fact for the people that consider the fact that "Harvard" is attached to the research as a proof of it not being bs... Bush junior graduated there, just saying.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
March 13 2012 19:39 GMT
#64
The obvious answer is to treat bacon (and red meat) like a bit more of a delicacy than a staple but many people will refuse to accept that. Of course, if you want to eat irresponsibly that is your choice and you shouldn't be judged for it so long as you don't preach it.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
March 13 2012 19:42 GMT
#65
The most important bit that you should addd to the top of the OP is this:

“When we looked at average nutrients in unprocessed red and processed meats eaten in the United States, we found that they contained similar average amounts of saturated fat and cholesterol. In contrast, processed meats contained, on average, 4 times more sodium and 50% more nitrate preservatives,” said Micha. “This suggests that differences in salt and preservatives, rather than fats, might explain the higher risk of heart disease and diabetes seen with processed meats, but not with unprocessed red meats.”

Dietary sodium (salt) is known to increase blood pressure, a strong risk factor for heart disease. In animal experiments, nitrate preservatives can promote atherosclerosis and reduce glucose tolerance, effects which could increase risk of heart disease and diabetes.


IE buy raw meat and cooking it yourself is better than buying industrially processed meatstuffs that require preservatives for shipping etc. Also high sodium intake might be bad too but people already knew these things but now you can cite a study instead of the nebulous body of common knowledge.

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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
March 13 2012 19:42 GMT
#66
On March 14 2012 04:37 Aterons_toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 03:56 Son of Gnome wrote:
It is worth the risk...

Last time i checked we were omnivores not herbivores, if someone wants to tell me that 99% of meat is bad for me fine.
That study is purely bs, yes people that eat a lot of bacon might have a higher mortality rate due to eating other kind of unhealthy food... etc
And just a fun fact for the people that consider the fact that "Harvard" is attached to the research as a proof of it not being bs... Bush junior graduated there, just saying.

honestly if the choice is between starvation and "increased mortality rate" then darwinism will choose the latter. Just because we can eat meat to survive doesn't mean that it's good for us in any way. It's so sad though because pork is by far my favorite meat... it's so good!
IrOnKaL
Profile Joined June 2011
United States340 Posts
March 13 2012 19:43 GMT
#67
Red meat, always and forever.
DuckS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
March 13 2012 19:44 GMT
#68
Well, the age-old saying saying is coming back into effect: everything in moderation.

You drink everyday, you're going to turn into an alcoholic. Why surprised about eating something as bad for you as bacon?
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 19:46:59
March 13 2012 19:45 GMT
#69
I laughed when I saw this. 20% less chance of death. Jesus christ.

I eat red meat twice every single day for bulking. I'm gonna go ahead and look the other way :p
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 13 2012 19:46 GMT
#70
don't exceed 2-3 servings of red meat a week.. who does this?

this article really doesn't say anything.. 'eat unhealthy things more than 3x a week and you'll probably be unhealthy'.

I can't wait for the next major study...
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Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 19:52:21
March 13 2012 19:48 GMT
#71
On March 14 2012 04:27 TheFrankOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2012 04:21 HoMM wrote:
Red meat isn't unhealthy. It's rich in iron. As long as you cut off the fat it's fine. Like anything else eating it in excess is bad for you. The people who die over indulge in unhealthy food which you can do being vegetarian.
Humans are omnivores which means we can eat both meat and vegetables. Neither is harmful to us till we just go over board.

This news article kinda reminds me of any "X causes cancer" articles. It's also a common known fact anyway that vegetarians do live longer, because they eat healthier, not because they don't eat meat.

tl;dr sensationalist article, if you eat meat but you eat healthy, this isnt a problem



This is not a news article, it is a press release about a meta-analysis done by the Harvard medical school, people who are brushing it off should read the actual link, this is not Fox News or some tabloid, its a press release from Harvard


Where do you read it is a meta-analysis? And it doesn´t matter who has made the study, it isn´t final in any way and there are many things to question. The statistical data is from the participants own estimations every 2 years. How accurate and trueful would your own estimates be for your last 2 years of consumption? Also the study merely shows correlation, nothing else.

I´m not saying it's not a valid study, but the results are not the be all end all which the report states. You should try to understand what the people you are criticizing are saying before you blindly assume "it says Harvard, therefore we must not criticize it".
Rob28
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada705 Posts
March 13 2012 19:49 GMT
#72
"Living without bacon is not truly living." - Plato (probably)
"power overwhelming"... work, dammit, work!
D4V3Z02
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany693 Posts
March 13 2012 19:50 GMT
#73
I think EMT has to use gay bacon strips more often now.
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Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
March 13 2012 19:53 GMT
#74
I hear breathing significantly contributes to your chances of eventual death.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
March 13 2012 19:53 GMT
#75
On March 14 2012 04:46 crms wrote:
don't exceed 2-3 servings of red meat a week.. who does this?

this article really doesn't say anything.. 'eat unhealthy things more than 3x a week and you'll probably be unhealthy'.

I can't wait for the next major study...

If you'd know the result of a study before it's been done there wouldn't be any need to do any studies. Unfortunatelly that's usually not the case. Just don't pay attention to the ones that don't produce significant results, it's not hard (even though the media does a good job at trying to refute that point).
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Focuspants
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada780 Posts
March 13 2012 19:55 GMT
#76
GIVE ME BACON OR GIVE ME DEATH!
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
March 13 2012 19:56 GMT
#77
A serving of nuts instead of red meat...yeah I think I'll take my chances. Just ate 12 slice of bacon.
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Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
March 13 2012 19:57 GMT
#78
Eat like pig

By eating pig

To die like pig...

Gotcha
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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
March 13 2012 19:57 GMT
#79
On March 14 2012 04:39 micronesia wrote:
The obvious answer is to treat bacon (and red meat) like a bit more of a delicacy than a staple but many people will refuse to accept that. Of course, if you want to eat irresponsibly that is your choice and you shouldn't be judged for it so long as you don't preach it.


I find that offensive! Eat bacon, damn you - Otherwise my country is in the shit
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
March 13 2012 19:57 GMT
#80
wow, people here are in serious denial - food can actually be unhealthy by itself, it's not always just because people eat too much of it
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
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