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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 16 2012 04:00 GMT
#321
On March 16 2012 12:49 Mr Showtime wrote:
Some of these studies can be absurd. The once oldest woman in America was interviewed when she claimed the title. She stated that her secret to long life was bacon for breakfast everyday. Does that mean bacon is good for your health? No. Obviously not. Everyone is different. I don't care about these ridiculous studies that literally serve no purpose. When given the chance to have bacon with my breakfast, I'm going to eat it. Period. I don't have some undying love for bacon. The future health risks are worth it to me.

yes. because one piece of anecdotal evidence is the same as a study with 100,000+ people in it. O.o
Revelatus
Profile Joined July 2011
United States183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 04:01:52
March 16 2012 04:00 GMT
#322
Doesnt matter had bacon.
caяp diєм
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
March 16 2012 04:05 GMT
#323
These numbers are pretty fucking scary. Good thing I'm not good at statistics.

It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
Hipsv
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
135 Posts
March 16 2012 04:11 GMT
#324
On March 16 2012 13:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 12:49 Mr Showtime wrote:
Some of these studies can be absurd. The once oldest woman in America was interviewed when she claimed the title. She stated that her secret to long life was bacon for breakfast everyday. Does that mean bacon is good for your health? No. Obviously not. Everyone is different. I don't care about these ridiculous studies that literally serve no purpose. When given the chance to have bacon with my breakfast, I'm going to eat it. Period. I don't have some undying love for bacon. The future health risks are worth it to me.

yes. because one piece of anecdotal evidence is the same as a study with 100,000+ people in it. O.o


Its not a study, its an observation, a study wouldn't allow deviance that could negatively affect the outcome such as smoking, exposure to low wavelength radiation, exposure to arsenic and a variety of other things. This for example would be concluding that because out of 150,000 people who drove blue cars for 40 years a higher percentage had cancer that blue cars cause cancer without mentioning that a higher percentage of people in the study who drove blue cars also smoked.

This is an extremely inaccurate misrepresentation of what limited data you have and is a downright irresponsible spreading of misinformation.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 16 2012 04:13 GMT
#325
I personally don't find it consequential in terms of lifestyle, tbh. This won't stop me from from eating bacon, it's simply not worth living life in a glass bottle, afraid of anything that might hurt you.

now if they find some kind of chemical mode of action that causes said harm from bacon (assuming it exists) then it becomes interesting.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 04:27:29
March 16 2012 04:14 GMT
#326
On March 16 2012 13:11 Hipsv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 13:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 16 2012 12:49 Mr Showtime wrote:
Some of these studies can be absurd. The once oldest woman in America was interviewed when she claimed the title. She stated that her secret to long life was bacon for breakfast everyday. Does that mean bacon is good for your health? No. Obviously not. Everyone is different. I don't care about these ridiculous studies that literally serve no purpose. When given the chance to have bacon with my breakfast, I'm going to eat it. Period. I don't have some undying love for bacon. The future health risks are worth it to me.

yes. because one piece of anecdotal evidence is the same as a study with 100,000+ people in it. O.o


Its not a study, its an observation, a study wouldn't allow deviance that could negatively affect the outcome such as smoking, exposure to low wavelength radiation, exposure to arsenic and a variety of other things. This for example would be concluding that because out of 150,000 people who drove blue cars for 40 years a higher percentage had cancer that blue cars cause cancer without mentioning that a higher percentage of people in the study who drove blue cars also smoked.

This is an extremely inaccurate misrepresentation of what limited data you have and is a downright irresponsible spreading of misinformation.


Well, actually, they accounted for all these things with multivariate testing. Although they didn't publish their formula so we can't really say how effective they were at accounting for them. Nevertheless, in a valid study they're not going to account for these variables with equations. They would eliminate them. Or, well, I shouldn't say valid study.... in a clinical trial, they would. You can do whatever you want in a "study".
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 04:25:38
March 16 2012 04:21 GMT
#327
On March 16 2012 13:11 Hipsv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 13:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 16 2012 12:49 Mr Showtime wrote:
Some of these studies can be absurd. The once oldest woman in America was interviewed when she claimed the title. She stated that her secret to long life was bacon for breakfast everyday. Does that mean bacon is good for your health? No. Obviously not. Everyone is different. I don't care about these ridiculous studies that literally serve no purpose. When given the chance to have bacon with my breakfast, I'm going to eat it. Period. I don't have some undying love for bacon. The future health risks are worth it to me.

yes. because one piece of anecdotal evidence is the same as a study with 100,000+ people in it. O.o


Its not a study, its an observation, a study wouldn't allow deviance that could negatively affect the outcome such as smoking, exposure to low wavelength radiation, exposure to arsenic and a variety of other things. This for example would be concluding that because out of 150,000 people who drove blue cars for 40 years a higher percentage had cancer that blue cars cause cancer without mentioning that a higher percentage of people in the study who drove blue cars also smoked.

This is an extremely inaccurate misrepresentation of what limited data you have and is a downright irresponsible spreading of misinformation.


I'm not sure I'm understanding you at all, they did control for smoking in this study, and studies often seek the best variables to disprove a desired outcome (unless you work for a spin institute like some far wing BS political tank). The more infallible the study is, the more reputable it becomes as time goes on.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 16 2012 04:25 GMT
#328
On March 16 2012 13:11 Hipsv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 13:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 16 2012 12:49 Mr Showtime wrote:
Some of these studies can be absurd. The once oldest woman in America was interviewed when she claimed the title. She stated that her secret to long life was bacon for breakfast everyday. Does that mean bacon is good for your health? No. Obviously not. Everyone is different. I don't care about these ridiculous studies that literally serve no purpose. When given the chance to have bacon with my breakfast, I'm going to eat it. Period. I don't have some undying love for bacon. The future health risks are worth it to me.

yes. because one piece of anecdotal evidence is the same as a study with 100,000+ people in it. O.o


Its not a study, its an observation, a study wouldn't allow deviance that could negatively affect the outcome such as smoking, exposure to low wavelength radiation, exposure to arsenic and a variety of other things. This for example would be concluding that because out of 150,000 people who drove blue cars for 40 years a higher percentage had cancer that blue cars cause cancer without mentioning that a higher percentage of people in the study who drove blue cars also smoked.

This is an extremely inaccurate misrepresentation of what limited data you have and is a downright irresponsible spreading of misinformation.

im not sure you understand what "study" means.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
March 16 2012 04:26 GMT
#329
On March 16 2012 13:11 Hipsv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 13:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 16 2012 12:49 Mr Showtime wrote:
Some of these studies can be absurd. The once oldest woman in America was interviewed when she claimed the title. She stated that her secret to long life was bacon for breakfast everyday. Does that mean bacon is good for your health? No. Obviously not. Everyone is different. I don't care about these ridiculous studies that literally serve no purpose. When given the chance to have bacon with my breakfast, I'm going to eat it. Period. I don't have some undying love for bacon. The future health risks are worth it to me.

yes. because one piece of anecdotal evidence is the same as a study with 100,000+ people in it. O.o


Its not a study, its an observation, a study wouldn't allow deviance that could negatively affect the outcome such as smoking, exposure to low wavelength radiation, exposure to arsenic and a variety of other things. This for example would be concluding that because out of 150,000 people who drove blue cars for 40 years a higher percentage had cancer that blue cars cause cancer without mentioning that a higher percentage of people in the study who drove blue cars also smoked.

This is an extremely inaccurate misrepresentation of what limited data you have and is a downright irresponsible spreading of misinformation.


If you had a significant proportion (like the one in the article) of blue car users getting cancer compared to other color car users, that would be a cause for significant concern.

Thing is that is impossible, so we don't bother investigating something like that.
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dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
March 16 2012 04:26 GMT
#330
What can I eat if I want to be immortal?
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
March 16 2012 04:28 GMT
#331
On March 16 2012 13:26 dgwow wrote:
What can I eat if I want to be immortal?


Try an apple from the tree of might.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 16 2012 04:38 GMT
#332
On March 16 2012 13:26 dgwow wrote:
What can I eat if I want to be immortal?

acai.
sambour
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada62 Posts
March 16 2012 05:02 GMT
#333
I don't eat red meat every day because it would get boring. Variety and reasonable portions seem to be the gold standard for nutrition and I'm all for it. Now to tell all the meat-heads who think eating more beef will make them strong as a bull that spinach is where it's at. Didn't they learn anything from cartoons?
lOvOlUNiMEDiA
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States643 Posts
March 16 2012 06:03 GMT
#334
Gary Taubes to the Rescue
To say that I'm missing the point, you would first have to show that such work can have a point.
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