North Korea suspends nuclear enrichment - Page 5

On March 01 2012 17:47 Quesadilla wrote:


Lol. They're gonna eat and bake nukes right after. watch.

On March 01 2012 18:31 ninini wrote:
This is good news. Unfortunately for NK it's just a short-term solution to the food issue. Investing in large-scale fishing is what would save them, and they know it, but they also know that if they sent out 10% of the population into the sea, then most of them would take advantage of the situation and flee to Japan and South Korea.

On March 02 2012 09:23 brimestone wrote:
Guys Guys dont underestimate NK.

You People seem to forget... China and NK are buddies.
Put it this way. If NK was a push over? why hasnt america or SK attacked them and get it over with?
Thats because China supports NK. Maybe not like in a media sense.. but behind curtains ? BIG BUDDIES.

Look at it this way.. China is the main zerg base.. NK is the natural.
If u study the landmark of china.. ul notice.. china relations are good with their neighbouring countries.(Guard ur back door)

So there is no way in hell NK is underpowered. The reason u get NK and SK is because America seperated them.
America knew one day china will grow overpowered. So during the weak ages of china? america tried to weaken there "back doors"

But as time went by it didnt help much. So whats the best response to NK "CHINAS NATURAL"? BE NICE TO THEM BUT STAY CAUTIOUS. This isnt starcraft 2 man.. u cant just go sniping naturals.

Thats the way i see it

On March 02 2012 19:29 Cinim wrote:


This is untrue. The population in North Korea is constantly being told how they are the no. 1 country in the world.

According to the average North Korean citizen, they have won the world cups, has the best economy and that starvation of their degree(they eat grass even) is common amongst lower classes in the world.

North Korean Citizens has no idea of how poorly it is in their country. Some might try to leave the country, but most of them would think that is isn't worth to do so.

On March 02 2012 00:48 3Form wrote:
Does anyone else find the North Korean philosophy of self sufficiency quite interesting? I mean in some of the propaganda pieces where western journalists are shown round the 'model' schools, they are full of computers which presumably are all produced domestically. Just think, they must reverse engineer all this stuff or come up with it themselves. Cars, computers, domestic appliances, communications, rockets etc etc. Remarkable really.
Intriguing philosophy, the complete opposite to globalisation. Of course it seems they aren't completely self sufficient...

Also not to mention that you go on google maps and there are no maps of NK. Takes you back a hundred years, before the likes of the Ordnance survey and GPS/Satellite maps. Zoom in on satellite images of Pyongyang and you see large deserted motorways...

On March 02 2012 21:11 zalz wrote:


This.

It is hard to grasp just how isolated the North-Korean population is. I dare say that it is utterly impossible to grasp for us who are born in the internet age, the literal opposite of North-Korea.

Kind of like dictatorships. We can read and learn a lot about them, but it is very difficult to really get a feel for what it is like to live under one.


There is most certainly a part of North-Korean society that truly believes everything they hear.

I think the underclass probably understands that their situation isn't natural (eating grass and dirt to survive). They have it so bad, their instincts probably tell that it can't be like this everywhere.

The upperclass has contacts on the outside world and are trained to be the next generation to lead the party and/or military. They are probably shown what is behind the curtain, bought off with the promise of a life of luxury and far reaching power.

I think the middle-class, the ones that get fed just enough and actually have jobs, are the ones that are most likely to buy into the massive propaganda.


But even then, it is hard to grasp just what such a society will do to a persons mind. Constantly being bombarded with messages about your greatness.

There aren't just lies, most of everything that you hear are lies. How can you ever learn any different when literally 100% of your news is false. Not just twisted but outright false.

On March 02 2012 09:03 furymonkey wrote:
If we follow Dekoth's theory, the whole world would still be living in shitty ages. He is pretty much saying since there are still people starving in the street, we should stop funding for these unnecessary science like space exploration, military research and the likes. Then we wouldn't have GPS, internet so to speak.

Truth be told, there are unlimited problems, even if no one is starving, you'd be looking at other stuff like good healthcare, educations for all, that is why you do things in parallel and adjust the funding accordingly.

On March 01 2012 21:22 GhostOwl wrote:
This is dumb. We shouldnt give food to NK. They'll just resume production after.

This might also be the new leader trying to gain the support of the people and seal his place at the top.

Additionally, the more food we give them, the less of their own money they have to spend on food production / importing food, and more money left for them to spend on military or further progress on nuclear weapons...

On March 02 2012 19:04 zeru wrote:
Are people forgetting: In '94 Carter started the deal with NK that would give them food in trade for halting the plutonium related nuclear programs (much more dangerous than uranium, NK was still allowed to play around with the uranion according to this deal). The north koreans kept their end of the deal. Kim Jong Il came to power, the deal was still on, even though he was a horrible leader. Then Bush came into power, and in short; fucked everything up, threatening and insulting NK and not keeping the deal going. That pushed NK into starting their plutonium programs again.

Saying NK arent gonna hold up their end of the deal is pretty silly.