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North Korea has agreed to suspend uranium enrichment, as well as nuclear and long-range missile tests, following talks with the US.
The US State Department said Pyongyang had also agreed to allow UN inspectors to monitor its reactor in Yongbyon to verify compliance with the measures.
In return, the US is finalising 240,000 tonnes of food aid for the North.
The move comes two months after Kim Jong-un came to power following the death of his father, Kim Jong-il.
Correspondents say the move could pave the way for the resumption of six-party disarmament negotiations with Pyongyang, which last broke down in 2009.
Perhaps Kim Jongeun will lead North Korea forward in a way that helps out all of its people and gets rid of the famines that they have been experiencing. I've only read books on the subject, but it seems like so many people suffered greatly and died because of the electricity and food shortages. Hopefully North Korea will continue to move forward in a positive way.
Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-17208755
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not researching something you really don't have money/resources for in exchange for food to feed your starving ppl seems like a good trade for me.
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Whoa, 240,000 tons of food? That's a LOT of aid.
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Seems legit, they've kept their word in the past
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im starving myself.. damn house has 0 food
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On March 01 2012 17:34 TheBatman wrote:
Seems legit, they've kept their word in the past
Lol. They're gonna eat and bake nukes right after. watch.
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Surprising but good news.
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i heard there was no mention of plutonium and north korea uses plutonium. this a big deal?
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We will see if NK really changed a little in the future. One such action doesn't mean too much, especailly if you see the history of "diplomacy" of NK.
Still I am happy for all north korean people who desperately need aid.
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Hopefully this is one step towards North Korea becoming a "proper" state. I wonder how this will affect the view of the west in NK, wouldn't be suprised if we see them praising Kim Jong Il for the food.
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This is good news. Unfortunately for NK it's just a short-term solution to the food issue. Investing in large-scale fishing is what would save them, and they know it, but they also know that if they sent out 10% of the population into the sea, then most of them would take advantage of the situation and flee to Japan and South Korea.
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The son seems less retarded than the dad. Who would have thought.
Great news anyway, I am glad to see a little bit of hope for the North Korean people.
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On March 01 2012 17:54 Zidane wrote:
Surprising but good news.
This cat-and-mouse game has been going on forever, so don't expect anything. NK periodically threatened war, asked for food (when SK stopped feeding NK), threatened again... The leadership change isn't making a big difference, if any at all.
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I've never seen North Korea as too much of a threat. They're much like the Soviets in that they fear death, only they don't have the ability to really do much without committing suicide. We shouldn't give them aid and should prevent them from exchanging missile technology but other than that, it's best to ignore them for the most part.
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I hope they can keep their promises. Still giving 240k supply aid is pretty much, hoping US will get WAY better relationships with along other countries nearby.
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I get the impression that this happen somewhat cyclically:
1. North Korea creates a situation of impending conflict (say conventional warfare or developing nuclear weapons)
2. US send food aid to North Korea in exchange for an agreement that North Korea stops whatever it is they were doing in (1).
3. As soon as North Korea receives its aid, it reneges on the deal.
4. Repeat.
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This is dumb. We shouldnt give food to NK. They'll just resume production after.
This might also be the new leader trying to gain the support of the people and seal his place at the top.
Additionally, the more food we give them, the less of their own money they have to spend on food production / importing food, and more money left for them to spend on military or further progress on nuclear weapons...
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North korea is poor fuck, large parts of their country have no electricity and their population have been brainwashed in their views of NK and the west, I don't normally support American foreign policy but I'd support a "liberation" of that country, they are living sheltered lives (whether the west's version of capitalist democracy is better than what NK has is open to debate ubt at least they'd have the internet and would be able to listen to music that wasn't state sanctioned).
Currently, anyone who disagrees with the state is sent to a North Korean labour camp that is situated in remote sectors in Russia, here the workers live in shitty conditions and work their "debt" off for no money.
As for their nukes, lol, the boy scouts would roflstomp NK, they aren't a threat to anyone except themselves and the native population who are born into their totalitarian state. The missles they have pointed at south korea is kinda fucked up if true but largely NK is all image both in terms of external and internal politics.
I used to think NK was some badass nation with nukes and shit but after doing some reading and watching some documentaries I've realised they are all poor as fuck and the country is a shithole and they wouldn't even get close to firing their supposed nukes without the west blowing them back into the stone age first.
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On March 01 2012 21:10 sigma_x wrote:
I get the impression that this happen somewhat cyclically:
1. North Korea creates a situation of impending conflict (say conventional warfare or developing nuclear weapons)
2. US send food aid to North Korea in exchange for an agreement that North Korea stops whatever it is they were doing in (1).
3. As soon as North Korea receives its aid, it reneges on the deal.
4. Repeat.
i dont think it is quite that simple. plainly, that is what happened in the past, yes. we'll see if it happens again.
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On March 01 2012 21:30 mememolly wrote:
North korea is poor fuck, large parts of their country have no electricity and their population have been brainwashed in their views of NK and the west, I don't normally support American foreign policy but I'd support a "liberation" of that country, they are living sheltered lives (whether the west's version of capitalist democracy is better than what NK has is open to debate ubt at least they'd have the internet and would be able to listen to music that wasn't state sanctioned).
Currently, anyone who disagrees with the state is sent to a North Korean labour camp that is situated in remote sectors in Russia, here the workers live in shitty conditions and work their "debt" off for no money.
As for their nukes, lol, the boy scouts would roflstomp NK, they aren't a threat to anyone except themselves and the native population who are born into their totalitarian state. The missles they have pointed at south korea is kinda fucked up if true but largely NK is all image both in terms of external and internal politics.
I used to think NK was some badass nation with nukes and shit but after doing some reading and watching some documentaries I've realised they are all poor as fuck and the country is a shithole and they wouldn't even get close to firing their supposed nukes without the west blowing them back into the stone age first.
Its true, they arent much a threat to most developed countries. They are a threat to South Korea. Look how close Pyongyang and Seoul are to eachother. Missile techonology to reach that small distance at low altitude isn't a big deal by todays' standards. North Korea wouldn't have a hard time acquiring these kinds of weapons.
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