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On March 19 2019 01:50 Plansix wrote:
The US is better served doing what the Democrats are doing now in the House. Pushing to shore up the background check system and make a better database for States to use to run background checks. Gun safety advocates have been making headway on the state level, especially in the last 2 years. So the Federal goverment can help with that by creating a robust system that any state can use as its sees fit.

Social media has also changed another aspect about writing gun laws. For a long time there was resistance to background check systems because of the argument that it could be used to create a list who owned guns for when the goverment was going to take them all away. It isn't really founded in reality, but it was a talking point I heard throughout my childhood. But now that data exists and Facebook/Google could compile a list at any time. So it seems silly to not have a federally supported background check system.

On March 19 2019 06:35 Slydie wrote:


If I am not mistaken, many Republican will hate any restrictions to gun laws, no matter how sensible they are, on pure principle.

I also don't buy the exuse that people "use gun tragedies for political purposes." It happens with any other major dusaster too! If a plain crashes, figure out why and work on how to prevent it happening again with any means possible. Ferries sinking, fires, pandemies, building collapses, mass poisening... it is actually the most natural time to discuss prevention and there should be non reason to call it abuse of the recent tragedy.

NZ just did a tuneup to their gunlaws, and nobody raged about it, Australia did it a long time ago and eliminated mass shootings.

The US is absurd in many ways, especially since many think the gun deaths are a fair prize to pay for the hyperliberal gun laws:-(

On March 20 2019 07:34 micronesia wrote:
I love (being sarcastic here) the irony of this article after just reading the first two sentences. It's like the author didn't even notice what they were doing. The media should at least give some thought to their responsibility.

+ Show Spoiler [screenshot of first part of article] +

On March 20 2019 19:49 Sent. wrote:
I'm not sure but I think would support keeping the identities and motives of mass shooters in secret. The only (minor) downside I can think of at the moment is that it would give more arguments to conspiracy theorists who see false flag operations everywhere.

On March 21 2019 14:20 evilfatsh1t wrote:
im on my phone and so cant link source but basically;
new zealand has 1 mass shooting = instant revision of gun legislation resulting in bans of military and assault weapons.
usa has thousands of mass shootings and still counting = still waiting on gun reform.

this is becoming even more of a meme than it already is

On March 21 2019 14:56 Sermokala wrote:

"Military and assault weapons" doesn't mean anything. They aren't real words. Not to mention owning guns for self defence was already illegal in NZ.

Basically, the types of guns now banned are all rifles and shotguns that are capable of being used with a detachable magazine holding five cartridges. As well as any parts capable of making semi-automatic guns into military-style automatic guns. This is REALLY weird and broad but I assume the actual text will make more sense. I guess if you melt or weld the drum magazine on both are now legal. You just make an external feed system or a belt fed system and the guns automatically legal.

I mean the announcement is basically "we're making up a new word and all those things that fall under the new word are illegal. Good luck everyone figuring out if their weapon is banned now or not.

We got a brilliant "you will need a permit to buy or sell these weapons but I can assure you that there is no reason to apply for said permit as no one will get it". Basically the USA system for Assult rifles but without an ability to enter into said system.

But at the end of the day nothing about it is immediately binding. It lays the groundwork for the upcoming ban along the principles agreed on so far so you don't get people buying up the soon to be banned weapons.