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On January 25 2019 01:32 Doodsmack wrote:
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

These days, the militia concept is obsolete. The US military could own and slaughter any possible militia, and is more than capable of defending the country. The militia is no longer "necessary." Therefore the 2nd A, by its terms, is inoperative.

In Heller, Scalia demonstrates his love for the text of the constitution by saying the 2nd A grants a right to keep and bear arms for self-defense purposes. One has to really strain to read "security of a free state" to encompass personal self-defense against random criminals. The words written in the 2nd A mean that the militia's existence is in relation to the defense of the state.

But since Scalia and conservatives favor a particular gun policy, they are willing to excise a portion of the Constitution.

A manhunt is underway in Louisiana following a string of shootings that left the suspect's parents and 3 others dead, law enforcement officials said.

Authorities are looking for 21-year Dakota Theriot after two Saturday morning shootings in Ascension and Livingston parishes, near Baton Rouge.

Dakota Theriot is also suspected of killing three more people less than 30 miles northeast in Livingston Parish.
The victims, Billy Ernest, 43, Summer Ernest, 20, and 17-year-old Tanner Ernest, were found dead Saturday morning, the Livingston Parish Sheriff's Office said.

At least one of the Livingston victims was a friend of Theriot's, the sheriff's office said.

On January 27 2019 08:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Not sure if this counts as a mass shooting or not because of the different locales but 5 dead and the suspect is on the run



www.cnn.com

On January 27 2019 13:53 evilfatsh1t wrote:
wouldnt the above incident be considered a case of serial killings rather than mass murder?

On January 29 2019 12:12 JimmiC wrote:
Well this sort of thing is sure not going to help with cops being trigger happy.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/28/us/houston-officers-shot/index.html

What a shitty and dangerous job being a cop in the states is. Not only are you hated, underpaid, and under trained. But you have a pretty legitimate chance of being shot, have a friend killed and or killing someone. I'm sure many of these guys suffer from PTSD as a result and then of course the risk of actually being killed.

Obviously there is a bunch of super shitty dirty cops that should be arrested, no argument there. But my above comment is towards the ones that are not evil. I also wonder how many start off with good intentions and then do to the stress of the above and possibly PTSD go down the wrong path.

What a mess.

With the Supreme Court now having five justices who are less likely to approve of gun regulations and laws, it granted a major gun case Tuesday for the first time in nearly a decade.

The court granted a right-to-carry case out of New York that pits the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association against the City of New York. New York bans transporting permitted handguns outside city lines, even if the gun is not loaded and is locked in a container. The guns currently can only be taken to the handful of shooting ranges within city limits.

The case could have wide ramifications for gun rights and gun restrictions across the country, depending on how broadly the court rules.

Conservative justices have been champing at the bit to take up gun rights cases. Justice Clarence Thomas in 2014, for example, criticized the court for not taking up more gun cases, calling it a "disfavored" right.

"The right to keep and bear arms is apparently this Court's constitutional orphan," Thomas wrote.

With a newfound majority after the confirmation of Justice Brett Kavanaugh, conservatives may have their chance to make a broad ruling, holding, for example, that the right to own a gun means the right to carry one, or it could rule more narrowly, saying New York's law is overly restrictive or something in between.

On January 29 2019 13:05 JimmiC wrote:


Odd my job has shitty parts and none of them involve being shot at or possibly shooting someone, or even close to that level of stress.

On January 29 2019 13:17 Danglars wrote:
Good news (from my gun rights perspective) for America: A couple good cases are before the Supreme Court on bad gun laws.


NPR (also, Scotusblog Case Hub)

This is a big chance for the Supreme Court to affirm American citizen's "bear arms" rights, and make the defense of such rights stand among the other important Bill of Rights amendments like the first amendment. The second amendment has been a "constitutional orphan" and "second-class right" for far too long. This is one step back in the right direction. The more secure Americans can feel in their second amendment rights, the better public comity for gun control in the margins. Unloaded guns in locked containers merely being transported out of the city seems like an obvious entry point we can agree on (or can we in this forum lol?)

The sensible next steps is to challenge gun laws on concealed carry permits that first ask the petitioner to prove he or she has good cause to need one. The right to bear arms is not subject to proving somebody's out to get you.

On January 29 2019 22:22 JimmiC wrote:


Yes being a truck driver is more "dangerous" because of the way they make those silly lists. And that is why i included stress, ptsd and so on. You will have to dig a little deeper than googling a click bait top 10 deadly jobs to find out why military and police suck so bad.

On January 29 2019 23:36 JimmiC wrote:


First any list I find specifically about murders has police #1

https://www.vox.com/2014/12/2/7313827/workplace-homicide-murder-violent

Second I think you are highly discounting the emotional stress of being at crime scenes (hell they also have to go to traffic fatalities and just bad accidents), seeing kids and others murdered. Also, there is a huge psychological difference between the dangers of driving or falling off a roof compared to being shot. There is also all those times when the situation is not dangerous but you have to treat it as such because you don't know, such as every time you pull someone over.

This is the case somewhat in the rest of the world for cops, but because of the way less guns and gun violence it happens way less. Not to mention in most places they are also better trained, paid better and have more options for emotional support.

There are a lot of societal issues outside of just the actual violence that guns violence creates. Mental health is up there as is the cost to your healthcare system.

I think you are severely discounting

On January 30 2019 00:10 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Wtf is food service managers and why are they half as likely to be killed doing a job where you wear a gun?

In fact the most disturbing thing is that retail sales workers / cashiers are "only" about 40% as likely to be murdered as a job where you might infact be expected to apprehend armed criminals.

Now that would be stressful.

On January 29 2019 22:52 Simberto wrote:


Yeah, i guess all the bullshit to steal justices to stack the courts with hardcore conservatives paid off in the end. You get to keep on murdering each other forever, and it will be made even more easy for you to do so. I hope you are happy.

It just seems so absurd that this is something that you view as a good thing.

At this point, i kinda just wish there was a way to put all the US conservatives into the hellscape they love to create for themselves and let them be happy there, but keep them from hurting all the other people in the country.

Just have a no healthcare, all guns, all coal, all corruption confederate state with a wall around it in the south, and a reasonable state in the north.