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On August 26 2005 07:53 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Agree. Communism isn´t to blame for China´s faults. Chinese people are to blame for China´s faults.
In this case, the government is stepping in to take care of a large problem caused by Chinese people: gaming addiction. Good luck.
yea, china is cool, let's move there
or you know what, north korea is better - no computer games at all
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On August 26 2005 06:47 haduken wrote:
What does this has to do with democracy? You people should stop using this lame issue to blame the country for christ sake.
I think it's a wise move on their part but probably very difficult to implemented it fully. The important part is they that showed initiatives, they CARE.
Most of you don't realise or don't want to admit how damaging games can be to your life. Sure, it is fun but really when it comes down games are just another trap corporations use to leech your time and money.
However, we as a society can't stop this new wave just like when we can't stop rock'n roll and skateboarding was back in the 80s.
So the question is? where is the balance?
Why are you always trying to make a cake from shit?And this is hardcore shit.
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haha
From the source:
"According to the Interfax news service, the system reduces the ability level of a player's online game character if the game is played beyond the three-hour limit. Basically, play more than three hours and the system cuts a game character's ability by half. Play more than five hours and the system reduces a game character's ability to the lowest level possible. "
Now suppose if you play sc for more than 3 hours...then...suppose they'll cut ur unit's ability in half...?
muwahaha
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On August 26 2005 02:45 1hp wrote:http://sc.gosugamers.net/forum.php?i=forum&visa=9&rubrik_id=118576&read=1Obviously taken from gosugamers, might as well take the topic maker's quote: "Shanghai. August 23. INTERFAX-CHINA - The Chinese Government unveiled a new system Tuesday to prevent individuals from playing online games for more than three consecutive hours, which must be installed for every online game in the country." "Development of the system is scheduled for completion at the end of September 2005. Internal testing is scheduled to begin in October of 2005. After internal testing, trial operations of the system will be held using the games "The Legend of Mir II" and "The World of Legend" operated by Shanda, "Westward Journey Online" and "Fantasy Westward Journey Online" operated by NetEase, "World of Warcraft" and "MU" operated by The9, "JX Online" and "First Myth Online" operated by Kingsoft, "The Legend of Mir 3G" operated by Optisp, "Lineage II" operated by SINA, and "Blade Online" operated by Sohu." "Compulsory deployment of the new system is expected to begin for all massive multiplayer online role-playing games and casual games in China in late 2005 or early 2006." http://www.interfax.cn/showfeature.asp?aid=4913 Props to Petar "RayOfLight" Jager and GGnet for topic. If this has been posted before, sorry, but it would be impossible to search this type of thing. P.S. seems like fewer people will die from gaming for 40hours straight now. Wish this sort of stuff was introduced in Korea too, except for professional gamers.
Because the government limiting your freedoms is a good thing!
On August 26 2005 06:47 haduken wrote:
What does this has to do with democracy? You people should stop using this lame issue to blame the country for christ sake.
I think it's a wise move on their part but probably very difficult to implemented it fully. The important part is they that showed initiatives, they CARE.
Most of you don't realise or don't want to admit how damaging games can be to your life. Sure, it is fun but really when it comes down games are just another trap corporations use to leech your time and money.
However, we as a society can't stop this new wave just like when we can't stop rock'n roll and skateboarding was back in the 80s.
So the question is? where is the balance?
I think a better question is, what fucking business does the government have telling you how many hours you can play a video game? I mean, may as well tell you how many hours you can sleep, how many hours you can allot for eating, how many hours you can allot for the three S's (Shit, shower, shave). Hell, why not just let the government tell you what age you can live to? Surely, they know what's best, and everyone knows it's all downhill after 35, so why be allowed to live past then?
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On August 26 2005 08:05 Sky101 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2005 06:47 haduken wrote:
What does this has to do with democracy? You people should stop using this lame issue to blame the country for christ sake.
I think it's a wise move on their part but probably very difficult to implemented it fully. The important part is they that showed initiatives, they CARE.
Most of you don't realise or don't want to admit how damaging games can be to your life. Sure, it is fun but really when it comes down games are just another trap corporations use to leech your time and money.
However, we as a society can't stop this new wave just like when we can't stop rock'n roll and skateboarding was back in the 80s.
So the question is? where is the balance? ?? It has everything to do with democracy, you just don't get it because you never had the pleasure to enjoy it.
Please go back and read what democracy is then come back and convince how this has anything to do with it. If anything, the government is actually listening to the people this time, most parents in China don't want to see their kids playing games which is an issue i won't bother go into but then again the number of parents > number of kids and the parents make up the population of the country.
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On August 26 2005 08:11 SuNDAnce wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2005 06:47 haduken wrote:
What does this has to do with democracy? You people should stop using this lame issue to blame the country for christ sake.
I think it's a wise move on their part but probably very difficult to implemented it fully. The important part is they that showed initiatives, they CARE.
Most of you don't realise or don't want to admit how damaging games can be to your life. Sure, it is fun but really when it comes down games are just another trap corporations use to leech your time and money.
However, we as a society can't stop this new wave just like when we can't stop rock'n roll and skateboarding was back in the 80s.
So the question is? where is the balance? Why are you always trying to make a cake from shit?And this is hardcore shit.
i find it ironic that he is from china, defending a decision by the chinese government
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Maybe they should focus in why their population gets so obsessed with Mmorpgs.
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communism isn't the opposite of democracy
capitalism is...
democracy's opposite would be a dictatorship
am i right or? i suppose communist governments ARE quite often dictatorships anyways 
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Most of you don't realise or don't want to admit how damaging games can be to your life. Sure, it is fun but really when it comes down games are just another trap corporations use to leech your time and money.
However, we as a society can't stop this new wave just like when we can't stop rock'n roll and skateboarding was back in the 80s.
Then you can have education campaigns explaining the dangers of playing too much. Let's not pull this crap and tell people how to and not to spend their time.
Also, this is something that I have noticed with people from Asia in general (as well as, to some extent, people from every country). When we insult a policy in your country, we are not insulting you as a person.
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this is the sadest thing i've ever seen in my life
doesn't china have more pressing issues than restricting fucking gaming hours on pc gamers ? rofl
anyone who dies from playing too much video games had it coming..
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On August 26 2005 07:53 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Agree. Communism isn´t to blame for China´s faults. Chinese people are to blame for China´s faults.
In this case, the government is stepping in to take care of a large problem caused by Chinese people: gaming addiction. Good luck.
?? It has everything to do with democracy, you just don't get it because you never had the pleasure to enjoy it.
idiot. what does democracy have to do with this? the "government" didn't just decide on this out of whim, it was the result of many months of public pressure that came about because of some (suspiciously ambiguous) research on "internet addiction disorder" and some gamer suicides/murders.
i think that practically speaking, this is a good initiative. keep kids off of online games and they'll find better things to do with their lives. this is true and you know it. the problem though, is principle, specifically, "freedom of action." by doing this, the communist government is interfering with the game industry's ability to turn a profit, but it's not like this is any sort of precedent for china. i'm going to reserve judgement on this for a few months just to see how this works out. is it effective? will what happened in greece (they banned gaming for a while sometime ago) happen in china, with public pressure forcing the law out? i don't think so, because it's not nearly as extreme. conclusion: hold your horses and let's see how this goes.
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A bunch of you are mini-fascists.
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On August 26 2005 21:49 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2005 02:45 1hp wrote:http://sc.gosugamers.net/forum.php?i=forum&visa=9&rubrik_id=118576&read=1Obviously taken from gosugamers, might as well take the topic maker's quote: "Shanghai. August 23. INTERFAX-CHINA - The Chinese Government unveiled a new system Tuesday to prevent individuals from playing online games for more than three consecutive hours, which must be installed for every online game in the country." "Development of the system is scheduled for completion at the end of September 2005. Internal testing is scheduled to begin in October of 2005. After internal testing, trial operations of the system will be held using the games "The Legend of Mir II" and "The World of Legend" operated by Shanda, "Westward Journey Online" and "Fantasy Westward Journey Online" operated by NetEase, "World of Warcraft" and "MU" operated by The9, "JX Online" and "First Myth Online" operated by Kingsoft, "The Legend of Mir 3G" operated by Optisp, "Lineage II" operated by SINA, and "Blade Online" operated by Sohu." "Compulsory deployment of the new system is expected to begin for all massive multiplayer online role-playing games and casual games in China in late 2005 or early 2006." http://www.interfax.cn/showfeature.asp?aid=4913 Props to Petar "RayOfLight" Jager and GGnet for topic. If this has been posted before, sorry, but it would be impossible to search this type of thing. P.S. seems like fewer people will die from gaming for 40hours straight now. Wish this sort of stuff was introduced in Korea too, except for professional gamers. Because the government limiting your freedoms is a good thing! Show nested quote +On August 26 2005 06:47 haduken wrote:
What does this has to do with democracy? You people should stop using this lame issue to blame the country for christ sake.
I think it's a wise move on their part but probably very difficult to implemented it fully. The important part is they that showed initiatives, they CARE.
Most of you don't realise or don't want to admit how damaging games can be to your life. Sure, it is fun but really when it comes down games are just another trap corporations use to leech your time and money.
However, we as a society can't stop this new wave just like when we can't stop rock'n roll and skateboarding was back in the 80s.
So the question is? where is the balance? I think a better question is, what fucking business does the government have telling you how many hours you can play a video game? I mean, may as well tell you how many hours you can sleep, how many hours you can allot for eating, how many hours you can allot for the three S's (Shit, shower, shave). Hell, why not just let the government tell you what age you can live to? Surely, they know what's best, and everyone knows it's all downhill after 35, so why be allowed to live past then?
It is their business when 1/3 of college and high school students wag school or drop out just to play a game at the local net cafe. These dropouts don't perform any productive means to the society and they will probably just end up as criminals. I won't bother arguing you what individual freedom is but to me freedom means choice but not choices which inturn would waste your own life and be a pain in the ass for your family and the people around you.
People living in a western world are privileged with a good economy and welfare system. If a western kid drop out and try his luck at games when he's done with that and he got no skill watso ever, the worst is he finds a job in Macs flipping burgers while getting weekly dole from the government but in China? oh no... u got no skill u live on ur family's expense and when that's done you are FUCKED.
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Then let the family fuck them for playing too much.
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On August 26 2005 22:02 T______T wrote:Show nested quote +
Most of you don't realise or don't want to admit how damaging games can be to your life. Sure, it is fun but really when it comes down games are just another trap corporations use to leech your time and money.
However, we as a society can't stop this new wave just like when we can't stop rock'n roll and skateboarding was back in the 80s.
Then you can have education campaigns explaining the dangers of playing too much. Let's not pull this crap and tell people how to and not to spend their time. Also, this is something that I have noticed with people from Asia in general (as well as, to some extent, people from every country). When we insult a policy in your country, we are not insulting you as a person.
Yeah sure, like that would work. I went to an Australian high school and they have classes on dangers of drug use and safe sex and guess what? 15% of kids still take drugs after 3 years of campaigning.
I know what you mean but you must see from my view when some guy tells you an opinion which is not a result of how much he understand the issue at hand but rather his own thinking of what it is.
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If the education campaigns don't work, then pull them. Still, it's better than this semi-fascist shit.
And if this issue is a burden on families, let them deal with it. But the government has no right barging in and dictating how people spend their personal time.
edit: I thought something looked funny... 
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well i think that not bad
3 hours of gaming are realy ok and they can do other think in the computer if they realy want . for some people who are addicted they CANT stop play and think they got nothing else to do or dont try find other think to do and start destroy many of the social life they got .
they should do the same in many other country.
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what if pj is in a important tourny that lasts longer then 3 hours ?
halfway through tourny pj says:
"sorry i gotta go i been on 3 hours! bye"
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Chinese kids are brainwashed by the Communists so no matter how we try, they just won't understand real democracy.
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This resolution has good and bad side, but I would not accept it :
I don't think I would accept the idea that the government get involved in my hobbie, free-time. Bye bye lan party :/.
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