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Deleted_143
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 03:23:17
April 07 2012 03:10 GMT
#1421
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Weebem-Na
Profile Joined May 2010
United States221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 03:46:00
April 07 2012 03:42 GMT
#1422
edit: I had the wrong tab meant to post this in live report thread very sorry so I will now say I dislike standard even though I think more in terms of it since I grew up in USA. Hopefully the next generation will only know metric.
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Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
April 07 2012 03:44 GMT
#1423
Guys, guys, there's a limit to what you can blame America for. Computers working from Base 2 was not an elaborate plot to troll the rest of the world.
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yoten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States57 Posts
April 07 2012 03:53 GMT
#1424
I use metric when I can and standard when I'm forced to.
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dannystarcraft
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States179 Posts
April 07 2012 04:10 GMT
#1425
They both have their time and place...

In Engineering (which is the reason it is still used in the United States) doing calculations in the English system is much easier with a Force based system. You just worry about Forces in pounds instead of masses and forces in kg and Newtons. That being said, it is only for structural problems... which is why when you get dimensions of structural things they are always in antiquitated Imperial units... 2x4's etc.

Of course there are some fields, like Thermodynamics, which are much much easier to work problems in metric units. As of now, the US will probably never change. It would disrupt things too much.
GT350
Profile Joined May 2012
United States270 Posts
October 15 2012 03:01 GMT
#1426
What irritates me is how NASA and other established institutions use 128,097 feet/24 miles during the Felix Baumgartner's record skydiving.

Why? I learned that metric is efficient and universal from grade school. But why are institutions still using other forms, especially the hideous imperial unit of measurement?
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 03:05:08
October 15 2012 03:04 GMT
#1427
On October 15 2012 12:01 GT350 wrote:
What irritates me is how NASA and other established institutions use 128,097 feet/24 miles during the Felix Baumgartner's record skydiving.

Why? I learned that metric is efficient and universal from grade school. But why are institutions still using other forms, especially the hideous imperial unit of measurement?


This is a very generalized statement that takes nothing into account.

1) It was shot in a nation that used the imperial unit system...
2) It showed both metric/imperial which is a far shot from 50 years ago when they only used imperial
3)


That's the argument you're making. It doesn't fit and I'm Canadian and I use the metric system.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
October 15 2012 03:04 GMT
#1428
On October 15 2012 12:01 GT350 wrote:
What irritates me is how NASA and other established institutions use 128,097 feet/24 miles during the Felix Baumgartner's record skydiving.

Why? I learned that metric is efficient and universal from grade school. But why are institutions still using other forms, especially the hideous imperial unit of measurement?

People know how big a foot or a mile is (in fact, even an alien wouldn't have much trouble understanding feet.... can't say the same for meters XD) but they don't know how big a meter or a km is. Obviously this is an oversimplification, but that's generally what it is.
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NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
October 15 2012 03:06 GMT
#1429
On October 15 2012 12:04 micronesia wrote:
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On October 15 2012 12:01 GT350 wrote:
What irritates me is how NASA and other established institutions use 128,097 feet/24 miles during the Felix Baumgartner's record skydiving.

Why? I learned that metric is efficient and universal from grade school. But why are institutions still using other forms, especially the hideous imperial unit of measurement?

People know how big a foot or a mile is (in fact, even an alien wouldn't have much trouble understanding feet.... can't say the same for meters XD) but they don't know how big a meter or a km is. Obviously this is an oversimplification, but that's generally what it is.


I would argue your opinion is wrong.

You are equating because of your specific knowledge that an alien would be able to easily understand imperial.

Imperial is an absolutely astoundingly awful system of measurement. You can't possibly argue that an alien would find moving up by 10's harder than "Well this is 12, that is 24 and here is 1000 and well 4 make a x and 5 make a z" .
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SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
October 15 2012 03:08 GMT
#1430
Canadians are weird because we use a mix of the two. I'm 6'1" and 175 pounds, but my parents live 120 kilometers away. I buy milk in 4 liter containers, but my burger patties are 4 ounces each.

I prefer metric any time I have to do math, though. It's so much easier.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 15 2012 03:08 GMT
#1431
On October 15 2012 12:04 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 12:01 GT350 wrote:
What irritates me is how NASA and other established institutions use 128,097 feet/24 miles during the Felix Baumgartner's record skydiving.

Why? I learned that metric is efficient and universal from grade school. But why are institutions still using other forms, especially the hideous imperial unit of measurement?

People know how big a foot or a mile is (in fact, even an alien wouldn't have much trouble understanding feet.... can't say the same for meters XD) but they don't know how big a meter or a km is. Obviously this is an oversimplification, but that's generally what it is.


without using google tell me why a foot is a foot
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
October 15 2012 03:11 GMT
#1432
On October 15 2012 12:08 SnipedSoul wrote:
Canadians are weird because we use a mix of the two. I'm 6'1" and 175 pounds, but my parents live 120 kilometers away. I buy milk in 4 liter containers, but my burger patties are 4 ounces each.

I prefer metric any time I have to do math, though. It's so much easier.

Yes well that's one of the funny things about being so closely connected with a culture that uses systems so vastly different. We get some hybrid mixture. The big reason why is that while science uses the metric system, engineering heavily involves itself with the imperial system. One could argue "because it's so easy 2 by 4!" but the real reason is that it just simply is what we ended up using by previous learned behaviors.

Off topic I had a relatively interesting topic with my Professor, Rodney H. Cooper, on whether he thought if computer science went back 50-60 years they'd stick with the binary system. He seemed very content with the assertion that no, they would not and the main reason we use binary is that it is simply ingrained in our knowledge.
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AUFKLARUNG
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany245 Posts
October 15 2012 03:13 GMT
#1433
Long distance, I use metric, maybe because I can visualize how long 100m/500m/1k/5k... is because I run.
Short distance, I have problems using cm and mostly use inches.

But I try to force myself to use metric.
HumpingHydra
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada97 Posts
October 15 2012 03:21 GMT
#1434
Im canadian. Metric is a better system, undoubtably. But the problem for us is that most people i know still use mass in pounds. It is too engrained in our culture. Every other measurement is fine for metric. The only exception I can regularly think of is in a Deli or something like that. Then its common to measure in grams. Its too common to refer to mass with pounds. Im considering always refering to thinks by their metric measurement when I have children.

I guess I forgot about wood measurement. That is still in feet and inches. I understand short term lengths in Metric much better. I can think quite accurately anywhere from angstroms (not an official metric unit oddly enough) to centimeters quite well. Additionally, anything relatively far, I can easily measure with kilometers. But I'd say theres a middle ground, 1 foot to 5 feet where I'd be more accurate with imperial.
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S:klogW
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria657 Posts
October 15 2012 03:22 GMT
#1435
On October 15 2012 12:04 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 12:01 GT350 wrote:
What irritates me is how NASA and other established institutions use 128,097 feet/24 miles during the Felix Baumgartner's record skydiving.

Why? I learned that metric is efficient and universal from grade school. But why are institutions still using other forms, especially the hideous imperial unit of measurement?

People know how big a foot or a mile is (in fact, even an alien wouldn't have much trouble understanding feet.... can't say the same for meters XD) but they don't know how big a meter or a km is. Obviously this is an oversimplification, but that's generally what it is.

This is ridiculous. Imagine the hilarity. A ultra advanced civilization asks us how we measure things. We say by "foot". Why, they ask. We explain it is the length of a human foot, more or less when it was created. Now imagine the aliens laughing so hard at how this crude civilization did not even consider the difference it would make between people.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 03:30:43
October 15 2012 03:29 GMT
#1436
On October 15 2012 12:06 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 12:04 micronesia wrote:
On October 15 2012 12:01 GT350 wrote:
What irritates me is how NASA and other established institutions use 128,097 feet/24 miles during the Felix Baumgartner's record skydiving.

Why? I learned that metric is efficient and universal from grade school. But why are institutions still using other forms, especially the hideous imperial unit of measurement?

People know how big a foot or a mile is (in fact, even an alien wouldn't have much trouble understanding feet.... can't say the same for meters XD) but they don't know how big a meter or a km is. Obviously this is an oversimplification, but that's generally what it is.


I would argue your opinion is wrong.

You are equating because of your specific knowledge that an alien would be able to easily understand imperial.

Imperial is an absolutely astoundingly awful system of measurement. You can't possibly argue that an alien would find moving up by 10's harder than "Well this is 12, that is 24 and here is 1000 and well 4 make a x and 5 make a z" .

I don't see why you think I made such a claim. All I meant was a 'foot' is somewhat self explanatory... it's roughly the length of a human foot. A 'meter' by itself doesn't mean anything as recognizable.

I'm not saying feet are better than meters lol... you all need to calm down.

Why is this such a touchy subject? Do we need to add it to the list with religion and the like?
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aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
October 15 2012 03:55 GMT
#1437
Also, remember that the only reason we use base 10 is due to us having 10 fingers. This means metric can be seen just as arbitrary as imperial in many ways.

In the end, metric is a great system for mathematics and science. It makes calculations easy to make and keep track of. Imperial has it's strange niche as well though. While the conversions aren't easy, the amounts make a lot of sense. I'm reminded by a conversation in the book 1984 where an old man complains that liters and half-liters of beer don't give him the perfect amount of beer, whereas a pint does. The same could be said about temperature, with decimals of C are a little too fine of a measurement for environmental control and full degrees are too coarse, but full degrees of F works out pretty well.
Alex1Sun
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 04:06:40
October 15 2012 04:06 GMT
#1438
I think Natural Units beat all other systems of measurement by a long shot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_units
I hope in the future (probably far-far future) everybody will be using Natural Units as a standard system, just because they are natural and precisely defined
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 04:36:03
October 15 2012 04:25 GMT
#1439
Metric and "standard". Imperial measure is only ever useful because if you have a size 10 shoe and a average stride you can measure things pretty closely with no tools. In other words it sucks unless you are lazy and similar in proportion to British royalty. Since I am, I use both still.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 15 2012 04:30 GMT
#1440
128,097 feet oh god who can ever visualize taht
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