EPTWhat? People say stuff like 600 ml pop or whatever all the time. I use feet for measurements, as that's what's used in film, so I kind of have to.
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
What? People say stuff like 600 ml pop or whatever all the time. I use feet for measurements, as that's what's used in film, so I kind of have to. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On October 15 2012 12:08 turdburgler wrote: without using google tell me why a foot is a foot XD sir, well played, but you are from England. So were my ancestors. It works for us, but it actually doesn't for a lot of folks- he may have small/big feet. But That's why I use both and the math isn't that much harder. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45539 Posts
On October 15 2012 13:30 oneofthem wrote: 128,097 feet oh god who can ever visualize taht 249,728 cm oh god who can ever visualize that? You realize that both systems generally work such that you convert units to make the distances easier to visualize, right? 128,097 feet may be hard to picture, but its equivalent of 24 miles is pretty easy if you're used to it. Similarly, 249,728 cm may be hard to picture, but I'm sure 2.5 km isn't bad... | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On October 15 2012 13:33 GolemMadness wrote: "No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces." What? People say stuff like 600 ml pop or whatever all the time. I use feet for measurements, as that's what's used in film, so I kind of have to. True, although I stick with 500's. so OP, our/your murika is no excuse for that one. | ||
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Xenocryst
United States521 Posts
On October 15 2012 12:06 NeMeSiS3 wrote: I would argue your opinion is wrong. You are equating because of your specific knowledge that an alien would be able to easily understand imperial. Imperial is an absolutely astoundingly awful system of measurement. You can't possibly argue that an alien would find moving up by 10's harder than "Well this is 12, that is 24 and here is 1000 and well 4 make a x and 5 make a z" . But what if the alien's numerical system didn't use 10 as a base? say it used 12? | ||
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Abort Retry Fail
2636 Posts
On October 15 2012 12:29 micronesia wrote: I don't see why you think I made such a claim. All I meant was a 'foot' is somewhat self explanatory... it's roughly the length of a human foot. A 'meter' by itself doesn't mean anything as recognizable. I'm not saying feet are better than meters lol... you all need to calm down. Why is this such a touchy subject? Do we need to add it to the list with religion and the like? lol micronesia using the banhammer card. I didn't know you were this sensitive. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
"I weigh 79 burgers" LOL | ||
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Battleship789
United States415 Posts
On October 15 2012 12:08 turdburgler wrote: without using google tell me why a foot is a foot While increasing or decreasing in magnitude is much easier and more intuitive in metric (especially since there aren't different units for each measurable quality), the reasoning behind the base units is not much better, especially the meter. "Why did you Earthlings choose the number 299792458?!? Why not something simpler?" | ||
micronesia
United States24768 Posts
On October 15 2012 13:58 Abort Retry Fail wrote: lol micronesia using the banhammer card. I didn't know you were this sensitive. I said that as a user, not a moderator. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On October 15 2012 13:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: 249,728 cm oh god who can ever visualize that? You realize that both systems generally work such that you convert units to make the distances easier to visualize, right? 128,097 feet may be hard to picture, but its equivalent of 24 miles is pretty easy if you're used to it. Similarly, 249,728 cm may be hard to picture, but I'm sure 2.5 km isn't bad... Oh the ignorance. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45539 Posts
You wanna elaborate on that? I'd sure love to hear it  | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
I can take a wild guess as to why they use that name though. Who knows in the future we may look at astronomical measurements and think the same thing. For instance large distances are often measured in AU (distance earth from sun) which is rather arbitrary. Light years as well especially considering it only works while light is in a vacuum, and is bent all the time, and that its based on another measurement which is earth going around the sun. Also we all use 24 hours. In one day. Not ten hours a day, 10 minutes to the hour, 10 seconds to the minute. Instead we have 1 year, 365 days in one year, 7 days in one week, random amounts of days in a month, 24 hours a day, 60 minutes in one hour, 60 seconds in one minute. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
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Shai
Canada806 Posts
On October 15 2012 14:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: You wanna elaborate on that? I'd sure love to hear it I can't speak specifically for him, but you were comparing cm and ft. 24 miles is 190080 inches. Also, you're wrong, and it's pretty funny. If someone said 250,000 cm it would be easier to mentally convert it to 2.5km. If I said 190,080 inches, there is no way in hell you would know how many miles that is. Anyway, if you said 2,497 metres to me (the equivalent of your feet argument), I would very, very easily be able to picture that. | ||
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Bobgrimly
New Zealand250 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i41.tinypic.com/2yydqx2.jpg) This highlights the problem with imperial. There is no consistency. It was a poorly thought out system that is outdated and should be retired along with many other habits from the old world. The thing that confuses me is why america doesn't use pounds, shillings & pence? If you are going imperial why use the dollar. It is a metric measurement. It makes to much sense to use a dollar. I reckon america should at least be consistent in their stupidity and clinging to pointless outdated systems.. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 15 2012 14:45 Bobgrimly wrote: It has to have been posted but I didn't have time to read all the pages. + Show Spoiler + This highlights the problem with imperial. There is no consistency. It was a poorly thought out system that is outdated and should be retired along with many other habits from the old world. The thing that confuses me is why america doesn't use pounds, shillings & pence? If you are going imperial why use the dollar. It is a metric measurement. It makes to much sense to use a dollar. I reckon america should at least be consistent in their stupidity and clinging to pointless outdated systems.. Yes, but then your stupidity of human nature and history would have to be explained. Why don't we all just speak a more efficient language that has been created in the past several years, like espranto was suppose to work. Everything has a reason and it's not always stupid. Which btw imperial is not used in america, imperial refers to british imperial units to which the US gained independence and diverged from long before imperial was standardized in the british empire. It's US customary units. Frankly why do we tell time in metric when it comes to less then a second but 60 seconds make up one minute and 60 mins makes up an hour and we have 24 hours. Really the idea that it's logical and thus should be adopted is foolish and removed from reality. Really semantically using the word efficient isn't even correct when you look at metric, it can be mathematically more efficient at times but in other instances it isn't. All metric is, is easier to remember. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On October 15 2012 13:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: 249,728 cm oh god who can ever visualize that? You realize that both systems generally work such that you convert units to make the distances easier to visualize, right? 128,097 feet may be hard to picture, but its equivalent of 24 miles is pretty easy if you're used to it. Similarly, 249,728 cm may be hard to picture, but I'm sure 2.5 km isn't bad... 249728 cm is 2.5km so it's pretty easy to convert. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45539 Posts
On October 15 2012 14:43 Shai wrote: I can't speak specifically for him, but you were comparing cm and ft. 24 miles is 190080 inches. Also, you're wrong, and it's pretty funny. If someone said 250,000 cm it would be easier to mentally convert it to 2.5km. If I said 190,080 inches, there is no way in hell you would know how many miles that is. Anyway, if you said 2,497 metres to me (the equivalent of your feet argument), I would very, very easily be able to picture that. I didn't say that cm was the metric equivalent of feet. I was merely using a metric example and saying that such a thing is still just as hard to visualize when you're given hundreds of thousands of units to think about, without doing the conversion. Has nothing to do with the unit itself; my math is correct. Also, I'm not "wrong" about anything (at least, that you pointed out), because nobody measures such large distances in such small units. His example was absurd, and my explanation pointed that out (the fact that you still use conversions). When you look at a map of your town, distances aren't measured in feet or inches or cm or mm. They're measured in km or miles already, so you don't need to convert anything at all. It's a matter of visualizing a few miles or km, which is perfectly fine to do... and the fact that it's just as silly (although mathematically equivalent, of course) to talk about large distance with very small units (in very large quantities). It's not helpful, and you'll have to do some calculations. Keep in mind that I'm not disputing the fact that metric is easier to work with overall than imperial. I've posted many times in this thread already about how metric is overall a better system (and as a math educator, I have quite a bit of expertise). I'm just pointing out how his one-liner statement is overall inconsistent and flawed if it's trying to make a point, as the same thing he wrote could be said for the other side- and that you need to use appropriate units for appropriate sizes anyway. On October 15 2012 14:55 oneofthem wrote: 249728 cm is 2.5km so it's pretty easy to convert. That's great. Let me know how many maps of your town you've seen with a scale of cm instead of km, and then get back to me with how applicable your post is. I'm well aware that metric is easier to convert than imperial. | ||
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sour_eraser
Canada932 Posts
WHY THE FUCK DOES MOST CANADIANS USE FUCKING IMPERIALS??? I understand it's preference but I mean this is Canada but at least know your shit in metric where it is the STANDARD units in Canada. My friends and all the people I talk to use pounds and foot/inches for their weights and heights. Fucking annoying to convert them to cm and kg since I need to record them for reports.But even worse, whenever I ask them why they dont use fahrenheit, their response is this "We aint American yo" -_- | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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