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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
November 02 2011 16:07 GMT
#901
On November 03 2011 01:06 DarkGeneral wrote:
When it comes to discipline, Id let the parents be the judge...


trolling off yo
n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
November 02 2011 16:09 GMT
#902
On November 03 2011 00:52 aTnClouD wrote:
The more I see this the more I wish there was a license for being allowed to have children.

No way, the most awesome people I know (artists n stuff) had this type of childhood, and I'm pretty sure there's a relation. But solid punishments for the parent would help, that's for sure
Yeah, whatever
Tabula`Rasa
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore81 Posts
November 02 2011 16:09 GMT
#903
I haven't had the time to read through everything in this thread, but I'd like to point out that this is standard operating procedure in a lot of Asian families - including many countries that no reasonable person would call "uncivilized". Corporal punishment, where children are concerned, and whether it is right or wrong, is mostly a matter of social and cultural construction. The principles that inform current Western thought have their roots in the Enlightenment, and I think these ideas don't permeate a lot of other cultures and societies.

I'm not saying what he did is right, but I've been belted by my parents. So have most of my friends. None of us resent our parents for it. I don't think it crosses the line into abuse if within, and for good reason. The point I'm trying to make is that corporal punishment, like all other moral/societal norms, are matter of construction - whether it is right or wrong depends on the society you live in. I don't think it should be condemned as objectively wrong. Belting your child is nothing close to say, stoning an adulterous woman (which still happens in Pakistan). Without the context within which this 'punishment' is taking place, I think all of you are just jumping to conclusions. Is such behavior acceptable in America? Probably not. But I don't think this man deserves the kind of condemnation he's receiving in this thread. Not by a long stretch.
qoou
Profile Joined December 2007
Norway145 Posts
November 02 2011 16:11 GMT
#904
Holy crap. I couldnt watch that whole clip. Heartwrenching. There better be some sort of consequences following this.
SC2, EU: Healthy WorldOfTanks, EU: Healthy
Bone.be
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium64 Posts
November 02 2011 16:11 GMT
#905
What a crazy ****! They are living like they are in 1800. This girl should quit her family atleast she could have some of a normal life.
You can find belgian players in the european channel: Belgianmasters
StatikKhaos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States214 Posts
November 02 2011 16:12 GMT
#906
On November 03 2011 01:00 Shichibukai wrote:
deny them their allowance...restrict their internet time...don't take them to the movies

i wish i had your parents (I'd make more remarks about denying allowance, but thats something else entirely),
i think to a certain extent "spanking" is acceptable, but that just seemed more like an angry beating, i was spanked as a child and i mean spare the rod spoil the child, and (this may just be my opinion) my parents didnt spank my brother and he's a little brat -.-

In a less words, spanking or whatever its called is alright as long as its not an angry beating, and the crime fits the punishment
Those Bitches
KaasZerg
Profile Joined November 2005
Netherlands927 Posts
November 02 2011 16:12 GMT
#907
I do not mean to offend anyone and in a lot of countries this may be normal but

IMO: Parents who think they need physical punisment to raise a child are mentally and emotionally weak. From my personal experience I lost respect for a familly member for a long time because he used spanking. It is weakness. Parents can punish and be strict with it.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 16:13:33
November 02 2011 16:12 GMT
#908
On November 03 2011 01:09 Tabula`Rasa wrote:
I haven't had the time to read through everything in this thread, but I'd like to point out that this is standard operating procedure in a lot of Asian families - including many countries that no reasonable person would call "uncivilized". Corporal punishment, where children are concerned, and whether it is right or wrong, is mostly a matter of social and cultural construction. The principles that inform current Western thought have their roots in the Enlightenment, and I think these ideas don't permeate a lot of other cultures and societies.

I'm not saying what he did is right, but I've been belted by my parents. So have most of my friends. None of us resent our parents for it. I don't think it crosses the line into abuse if within, and for good reason. The point I'm trying to make is that corporal punishment, like all other moral/societal norms, are matter of construction - whether it is right or wrong depends on the society you live in. I don't think it should be condemned as objectively wrong. Belting your child is nothing close to say, stoning an adulterous woman (which still happens in Pakistan). Without the context within which this 'punishment' is taking place, I think all of you are just jumping to conclusions. Is such behavior acceptable in America? Probably not. But I don't think this man deserves the kind of condemnation he's receiving in this thread. Not by a long stretch.


you know, through the middle age people actually thought of theirselves as civilized

edit : actually you should go right now belt for a good hour each of one that belted you
would be a life changer !
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
November 02 2011 16:12 GMT
#909
Things like these make me boil with rage. It just makes me furious that a human being might be capable of doing something similar, while thinking he's fully right to do so. I just fucking hate human nature sometimes.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
November 02 2011 16:12 GMT
#910
how was this filmed?
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
November 02 2011 16:13 GMT
#911
On November 03 2011 01:11 qoou wrote:
Holy crap. I couldnt watch that whole clip. Heartwrenching. There better be some sort of consequences following this.
There is no consequence, it's perfectly legal where they live for some odd reason.
I <3 Plexa.
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
November 02 2011 16:13 GMT
#912
I usually don't like videos like this.. and i didn't now either just heard the girl screaming and had to turn it off, makes me disgusted.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
November 02 2011 16:14 GMT
#913
On November 03 2011 01:13 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 01:11 qoou wrote:
Holy crap. I couldnt watch that whole clip. Heartwrenching. There better be some sort of consequences following this.
There is no consequence, it's perfectly legal where they live for some odd reason.


oh not only that, they have an arsenal of fucked up laws basically allowing them to behave like cavemen driving 4x4s.
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
November 02 2011 16:14 GMT
#914
On November 03 2011 01:09 n00b3rt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 00:52 aTnClouD wrote:
The more I see this the more I wish there was a license for being allowed to have children.

No way, the most awesome people I know (artists n stuff) had this type of childhood, and I'm pretty sure there's a relation. But solid punishments for the parent would help, that's for sure


So you think theres a magic relation between getting beat up and getting abused mentally and being an awesome grown-up that justifies abusing your children? There may be ppl that get "stronger" after such a childhood, but it's ridiculous to think that there aren't any problems with your logic of a person that obviously lacks understanding of very basic aspects of psychology.

Many ppl enduring such an abuse suffer from it their whole and even if some of them grow up to seem like pretty "normal" ppl, there may be a lot more that don't or where you just don't see their suffering.

Your logic therefore is not only flawed, but IMHO also very dangerous and to be frank, this post of you lets me heavily doubt your intelligence and empathy.
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
Tabula`Rasa
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore81 Posts
November 02 2011 16:14 GMT
#915
On November 03 2011 01:12 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 01:09 Tabula`Rasa wrote:
I haven't had the time to read through everything in this thread, but I'd like to point out that this is standard operating procedure in a lot of Asian families - including many countries that no reasonable person would call "uncivilized". Corporal punishment, where children are concerned, and whether it is right or wrong, is mostly a matter of social and cultural construction. The principles that inform current Western thought have their roots in the Enlightenment, and I think these ideas don't permeate a lot of other cultures and societies.

I'm not saying what he did is right, but I've been belted by my parents. So have most of my friends. None of us resent our parents for it. I don't think it crosses the line into abuse if within, and for good reason. The point I'm trying to make is that corporal punishment, like all other moral/societal norms, are matter of construction - whether it is right or wrong depends on the society you live in. I don't think it should be condemned as objectively wrong. Belting your child is nothing close to say, stoning an adulterous woman (which still happens in Pakistan). Without the context within which this 'punishment' is taking place, I think all of you are just jumping to conclusions. Is such behavior acceptable in America? Probably not. But I don't think this man deserves the kind of condemnation he's receiving in this thread. Not by a long stretch.


you know, through the middle age people actually thought of theirselves as civilized



I would like to inform you that "civilized" is a relative standard. Are you measuring Asian civilizations against Western ones? Why is Western thought superior? If you can evince objective reasons, I would love to hear them.
aransas131
Profile Joined November 2011
1 Post
November 02 2011 16:14 GMT
#916
my son was in school with this young girl....he is now in afganastan because of adams. people might want to investigate entire county. i've seen 2 guys get dui's and paid off the previous county clerk 500 first 2000 secound...hmmmmmmm adams also got a cut i bet. if there was a corrupt county(lol) in texas and it was properly investagated. all would be in jail.FBI we need your help here asap which i will say is now..................................

User was banned for this post.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
November 02 2011 16:17 GMT
#917
On November 03 2011 01:14 Tabula`Rasa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 01:12 Boonbag wrote:
On November 03 2011 01:09 Tabula`Rasa wrote:
I haven't had the time to read through everything in this thread, but I'd like to point out that this is standard operating procedure in a lot of Asian families - including many countries that no reasonable person would call "uncivilized". Corporal punishment, where children are concerned, and whether it is right or wrong, is mostly a matter of social and cultural construction. The principles that inform current Western thought have their roots in the Enlightenment, and I think these ideas don't permeate a lot of other cultures and societies.

I'm not saying what he did is right, but I've been belted by my parents. So have most of my friends. None of us resent our parents for it. I don't think it crosses the line into abuse if within, and for good reason. The point I'm trying to make is that corporal punishment, like all other moral/societal norms, are matter of construction - whether it is right or wrong depends on the society you live in. I don't think it should be condemned as objectively wrong. Belting your child is nothing close to say, stoning an adulterous woman (which still happens in Pakistan). Without the context within which this 'punishment' is taking place, I think all of you are just jumping to conclusions. Is such behavior acceptable in America? Probably not. But I don't think this man deserves the kind of condemnation he's receiving in this thread. Not by a long stretch.


you know, through the middle age people actually thought of theirselves as civilized



I would like to inform you that "civilized" is a relative standard. Are you measuring Asian civilizations against Western ones? Why is Western thought superior? If you can evince objective reasons, I would love to hear them.


I don't want to offend anyone's culture, and i'm actually extremely ignorant when it comes to asian culture, but i honestly think that nothing good comes from beating your own children that heavily.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Crying
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria778 Posts
November 02 2011 16:17 GMT
#918
And if this is right im a fucking horse.
Go get a BAT and brake it his fat head,faggot.This is UNACCEPTABLE and BUILDS BAD feelings in children THEY ARE RAISED purely on being molested.THATS NOT WHAT WE WANT.

User was temp banned for this post.
Determination~ Hard Work Surpass NATURAL GENIUS!
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
November 02 2011 16:18 GMT
#919
On November 03 2011 01:13 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 01:11 qoou wrote:
Holy crap. I couldnt watch that whole clip. Heartwrenching. There better be some sort of consequences following this.
There is no consequence, it's perfectly legal where they live for some odd reason.


Wait WHAT?

Wow, I might actually have to throw up....

I really hope the girl somehow finds the courage and help from others to somehow better her situation. If there is no legal ground for helping her/punishing her father, it will be really hard for her to get out of such a situation.
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
November 02 2011 16:19 GMT
#920
On November 03 2011 01:14 Tabula`Rasa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 01:12 Boonbag wrote:
On November 03 2011 01:09 Tabula`Rasa wrote:
I haven't had the time to read through everything in this thread, but I'd like to point out that this is standard operating procedure in a lot of Asian families - including many countries that no reasonable person would call "uncivilized". Corporal punishment, where children are concerned, and whether it is right or wrong, is mostly a matter of social and cultural construction. The principles that inform current Western thought have their roots in the Enlightenment, and I think these ideas don't permeate a lot of other cultures and societies.

I'm not saying what he did is right, but I've been belted by my parents. So have most of my friends. None of us resent our parents for it. I don't think it crosses the line into abuse if within, and for good reason. The point I'm trying to make is that corporal punishment, like all other moral/societal norms, are matter of construction - whether it is right or wrong depends on the society you live in. I don't think it should be condemned as objectively wrong. Belting your child is nothing close to say, stoning an adulterous woman (which still happens in Pakistan). Without the context within which this 'punishment' is taking place, I think all of you are just jumping to conclusions. Is such behavior acceptable in America? Probably not. But I don't think this man deserves the kind of condemnation he's receiving in this thread. Not by a long stretch.


you know, through the middle age people actually thought of theirselves as civilized



I would like to inform you that "civilized" is a relative standard. Are you measuring Asian civilizations against Western ones? Why is Western thought superior? If you can evince objective reasons, I would love to hear them.


oh well lets not dwelve into that, your beaten-in wrongly educated arrogance just shines already
as far as ive seen for having lived over these regions for a bit, there are still a few mountains needed to be climbed before we can even start debating such topics and silly comparisons.



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