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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-08 14:17:23
January 08 2016 14:15 GMT
#15601
And you can do that every single time under 1 hour from starting to take clothes off really?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46635 Posts
January 08 2016 14:42 GMT
#15602
I could do it every single time under a half hour if (she and) I wanted. We've been dating for nearly a decade now, and having sex for like 6-7 years. I know her body pretty well.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
levelping
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore759 Posts
January 08 2016 18:04 GMT
#15603
I think it's a very good practice to prioritize the lady's orgasm over yours. Like DPB, I do that too - that way both partners get off at least once.

You just don't really need 2 hours to do that (although well 2 hours is a lot less crazy than 5 hours).

We get it that sex is an important function of a relationship. But so are other things too, and if you're spending the time you have together mostly on sex, then you're missing out on the other things that you guys can be doing. Worse still, I think, is that if there is a strong emphasis on sexual behavior in the relationship, things are kinda going to go south really quickly if later on in life either person's libido starts to die off.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46635 Posts
January 08 2016 18:45 GMT
#15604
And to be fair, everyone's relationship is going to be different, because everyone is different. Everyone has slightly different needs and preferences, and so some relationships might spend a higher percentage of time with raw, physical sex, while other relationships might have more dates or talking or planning or anything else. It's important to hit upon everything that's important to both people, but there's no magic pie chart that says X% of your relationship must be in the bedroom, Y% must be in the kitchen, Z% must be spent on activities, etc. Learn what works best, get even better at the stuff you guys like, and don't be afraid to occasionally try new things
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
January 08 2016 19:38 GMT
#15605
I just want to address all the boys that are having the tough time. It is important to remember that the whole life is one big lesson, no matter if the experience was god or bad, you can always learn from it, so be smart and make the most of it. Even if you got a lot of bad luck and rejection, you can always work on yourself. You can become a better person, you can develop your communication skills, you can take a better care about your body, you can take a beautiful trip to meet new people, you can read a lot of books to keep you more "interesting". You have to understand that, so you have to always work in your evolution chamber, but not only because someone else will like you more, you have to do it for yourself.

Sometimes it is hard, recently I told my feelings to one girl that I knew for 3 years, we were good friends, we did a lot of stuff together, etc. She broke up with her boyfriend, but lady luck was not in my favor, she ended up with some other dude, and anyway the relationship did not last long.

Even though it was painful (especially when someone tells you you are the type of the person she never meet, but we cannot be together *only* because we work together), I sucked it up, and tried to work even more on myself. In these situations you (have to) understand that the life's journey is not about somebody else, first find yourself, and work on yourself. Sometimes life will throw a lot of sand in your eyes, but do not be discouraged, just go back to evolution chamber.

Life is a beauty, embrace it : )
Climbing walls of an endless circle
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 09 2016 12:14 GMT
#15606
That's mostly BS btw from her, couples meet at work a pretty high% of the time, so she was just letting you down easy and isn't interested in you romantically- women will break their rules if they are really into you, and working together is not that big of an issue.

Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8940 Posts
January 09 2016 13:54 GMT
#15607
On January 09 2016 21:14 LemOn wrote:
That's mostly BS btw from her, couples meet at work a pretty high% of the time, so she was just letting you down easy and isn't interested in you romantically- women will break their rules if they are really into you, and working together is not that big of an issue.


lol thats just not true at all
i know a lot of both women and men that have that rule, and no they arent breaking it even if they are 'really into you'.
me personally am the same, i never even attempt to get romantically close to a coworker. cant get 'really into' someone when youre not even 'into' them to begin with
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46635 Posts
January 09 2016 13:59 GMT
#15608
On January 09 2016 22:54 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 21:14 LemOn wrote:
That's mostly BS btw from her, couples meet at work a pretty high% of the time, so she was just letting you down easy and isn't interested in you romantically- women will break their rules if they are really into you, and working together is not that big of an issue.


lol thats just not true at all
i know a lot of both women and men that have that rule, and no they arent breaking it even if they are 'really into you'.
me personally am the same, i never even attempt to get romantically close to a coworker. cant get 'really into' someone when youre not even 'into' them to begin with


I agree that some men and women choose not to get romantically involved with coworkers, not because they're not attracted to colleagues, but because it could jeopardize their job and make the workplace environment more awkward, if something potentially goes wrong. When considering who to "seriously" date, there are other external factors (like if there might be conflicts with careers) that many people will take into account. It's unfortunate for people who miss out, but it's not particularly surprising.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
January 09 2016 14:53 GMT
#15609
On January 09 2016 22:54 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 21:14 LemOn wrote:
That's mostly BS btw from her, couples meet at work a pretty high% of the time, so she was just letting you down easy and isn't interested in you romantically- women will break their rules if they are really into you, and working together is not that big of an issue.


lol thats just not true at all
i know a lot of both women and men that have that rule, and no they arent breaking it even if they are 'really into you'.
me personally am the same, i never even attempt to get romantically close to a coworker. cant get 'really into' someone when youre not even 'into' them to begin with


I'm with lemon here. If she is sufficiently attracted to you she'll forego all her "rules".
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 09 2016 17:02 GMT
#15610
love conquers all. And work is nothing close to stuff like religion etc.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46635 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-09 17:36:26
January 09 2016 17:35 GMT
#15611
On January 10 2016 02:02 LemOn wrote:
love conquers all. And work is nothing close to stuff like religion etc.


While "love conquers all" is obviously overly idealistic (and so not really worth addressing directly), work can be just as important (or moreso) to some people than religion, especially if the person isn't particularly religious. All of this is anecdotal, and depends on the priorities of the individual. There are plenty of people who would never date or marry someone outside of their own religion or race, and there are plenty of people who don't like to "shit where they eat" (mix their dating scene with their established work environment). You can't make sweeping generalizations like "What the girl said to you is bullshit because no one would ever choose their work over dating". You may disagree with the girl's list of priorities, but that doesn't mean she's a liar about her preferences.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 09 2016 18:53 GMT
#15612
Work is definitely an issue... not having relationships is codified in a lot of HR rules.

Love can be powerful, but there are a million things that can wear it down. Distance, family, some other people, illness, etc.

Storytime: Once I got dumped because the girl's pastor (Southern Baptist) told her I was bad for her soul or something since I was a kind of nebulous Christian. Of course, he also ended up cheating on his wife, so there was that.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46635 Posts
January 09 2016 19:09 GMT
#15613
Sounds like the pastor was actually Donald Trump.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7684 Posts
January 09 2016 19:47 GMT
#15614
You probably don't want to date a southern baptist anyway though.
It is terrible to die of thirst at sea. Must you so salt your truth that it will no longer even slake thirst?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 00:42:44
January 10 2016 00:41 GMT
#15615
On January 10 2016 02:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 02:02 LemOn wrote:
love conquers all. And work is nothing close to stuff like religion etc.


While "love conquers all" is obviously overly idealistic (and so not really worth addressing directly), work can be just as important (or moreso) to some people than religion, especially if the person isn't particularly religious. All of this is anecdotal, and depends on the priorities of the individual. There are plenty of people who would never date or marry someone outside of their own religion or race, and there are plenty of people who don't like to "shit where they eat" (mix their dating scene with their established work environment). You can't make sweeping generalizations like "What the girl said to you is bullshit because no one would ever choose their work over dating". You may disagree with the girl's list of priorities, but that doesn't mean she's a liar about her preferences.


Imagine you were Brad Pitt in his thirties. What do you think she would do?
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
January 10 2016 01:31 GMT
#15616
Speaking of work relationships, dinner went over pretty well.

Walked around a bit and checked out some shops while waiting for seating for food+drinks (popular japanese place). Tried to show I was interested and we did get good physical rapport-sitting close, touching arms/legs. Probably had a window for a kiss if I was more forward but it was pretty packed (yea yea excuses). Lost a lot of that tension towards the end as we were both pretty tired after ~4 hrs so ended with a hug.

Said she had fun so I'll probably try to set up another day with hopefully no flake. In retrospect should've done that before we left but yea.

DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46635 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 05:23:56
January 10 2016 05:22 GMT
#15617
On January 10 2016 09:41 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 02:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On January 10 2016 02:02 LemOn wrote:
love conquers all. And work is nothing close to stuff like religion etc.


While "love conquers all" is obviously overly idealistic (and so not really worth addressing directly), work can be just as important (or moreso) to some people than religion, especially if the person isn't particularly religious. All of this is anecdotal, and depends on the priorities of the individual. There are plenty of people who would never date or marry someone outside of their own religion or race, and there are plenty of people who don't like to "shit where they eat" (mix their dating scene with their established work environment). You can't make sweeping generalizations like "What the girl said to you is bullshit because no one would ever choose their work over dating". You may disagree with the girl's list of priorities, but that doesn't mean she's a liar about her preferences.


Imagine you were Brad Pitt in his thirties. What do you think she would do?


Believe it or not, it's not the case that 100% of all women would throw away their careers and other plans to date Brad Pitt. Heck, just look at Shania Twain... She literally wrote a song about how simply being Brad Pitt don't impress (her) much.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
levelping
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore759 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-10 06:38:10
January 10 2016 06:34 GMT
#15618
On January 10 2016 02:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 02:02 LemOn wrote:
love conquers all. And work is nothing close to stuff like religion etc.


While "love conquers all" is obviously overly idealistic (and so not really worth addressing directly), work can be just as important (or moreso) to some people than religion, especially if the person isn't particularly religious. All of this is anecdotal, and depends on the priorities of the individual. There are plenty of people who would never date or marry someone outside of their own religion or race, and there are plenty of people who don't like to "shit where they eat" (mix their dating scene with their established work environment). You can't make sweeping generalizations like "What the girl said to you is bullshit because no one would ever choose their work over dating". You may disagree with the girl's list of priorities, but that doesn't mean she's a liar about her preferences.


Actually, I can say that as a guy who has turned down a girl at work, the idea that love conquers all is a little simplistic.

I personally put a lot of importance in being professional at work with clients and colleagues, and so avoid relationships because they make it very difficult to keep things professional. The girl I turned down was really pretty, into star wars, and a pole dancer, but as much as I found her very attractive I knew that it would compromise my ability to work with her professionally. We're still good friends, but we both realise in hindsight that it was a good thing that we didn't try dating.
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
January 10 2016 09:12 GMT
#15619
Depends on how what you would call "love" in my opinion. If you would take a bullet for the girl you would most likely date her anyway, however if it's just that you think she is very attractive and seems interesting you probably won't, but I wouldn't call that love either.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4222 Posts
January 10 2016 13:59 GMT
#15620
Eh, I've been flirting quite a bit with a girl at my work. She's only here on a temp job (she's covering for a medical leave), but she's also the daughter of a co-worker. I'm 27, she's 21, but she actually seems to have a pretty level head. Probably a bad idea, but fuck it, what's the worst that could happen?
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