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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on. Posts of the following nature are banned: 1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post. 2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no. 3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture. 4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments. Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating. | ||
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Pniski
United States17 Posts
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On February 18 2014 12:06 Dogfoodboy16 wrote: Any ideas on how i can get on my girlfriend's parents good side? They are somewhat dismissive of me because they both have doctorates and i never finished high school. I own a house and make a good amount of money to comfortably support me and my gf so I don't really get what her parents big deal is. Its not like im trying to stop her from going to college but school was never my thing. You can't make people having prejudices like you. Don't waste time or energy on it, it's mostly their problem because at the end of the day if your gf stays with you it will eventually mean you'll be less and less likely to want to spend time with them, which means they get less involved in their daughter's life. When you spend Christmas at your parents' or if they miss some of their grandchildren birthdays maybe they'll reconsider. Or they won't, in which case I wouldn't miss someone so haughty. On February 18 2014 15:39 Pniski wrote: My biggest problem is not education, lack of financial stability or any of the usual suspects. I might not be in the best shape (guys these days push too hard with the whole working out thing), but that is not the problem either. My main issue is that women tend to be very shallow and boring. I'm left being the one trying to entertain them talking about mundane and boring things that they can relate to. Never had a meaningful conversation with a woman in my entire life. Not even on IRC where I spend most of my time. Perhaps I'm just too arrogant and exaggerate the issue but that's how I feel about it. If you spend most of your time on IRC, do you really have conversations with women to begin with ? | ||
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Pniski
United States17 Posts
If you spend most of your time on IRC, do you really have conversations with women to begin with ? I didn't do that all my life. When I went to college, I had plenty of experience dating girls. All I do now is sit back and wait for this nightmare to end. Some people call it life. | ||
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WarSame
Canada1950 Posts
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
On February 18 2014 12:55 Dogfoodboy16 wrote: Actually her parents are Afgan. They were both scientists in Iran during the 70's and were able to gain American citizenship somehow because the US was in desperate need of scientists back then and the situation in Iran was getting ugly at the end of the decade. Mabye its just because im a white guy dating an middle eastern girl and they think im an infidel  Like likes like for the most part. If you are an overly educated elitist (I'm guilty) it can be hard to relate to people who are, well, not. Beyond the obvious, being polite, respectful and patient with the fact that it might take time to build a relationship with them I don't think there is anything to do really. Making clear that you won't hold their daughter back when it comes to college or grad school decisions or whatever would probably help, but then there is also the more important question of what your gf wants/needs from you.. | ||
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Pniski
United States17 Posts
If you are an overly educated elitist (I'm guilty) it can be hard to relate to people who are, well, not. George W. Bush graduated Yale University and got a degree in Harvard Business School. How easily do you find it to relate to him? And your statement itself suggests that you're as ignorant as the very people you seem to look down upon. With all your education you should understand that formal education can mean everything and at the same time mean absolutely nothing. I could be wrong and misinterpreted what you were trying to point out but I did feel a very smug and repulsive smell coming from it. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
He also said "can be hard" not that he only accepts people with PHds in his club. And finally he didn't say that he automatically relates to someone with education. And may I remind you that you specifically said a couple posts above that you don't relate with women because "women tend to be very shallow and boring. I'm left being the one trying to entertain them talking about mundane and boring things that they can relate to". Isn't that a repulsive smell to you ? | ||
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Pniski
United States17 Posts
Not relating with someone isn't looking down upon. He also said "can be hard" not that he only accepts people with PHds in his club. And finally he didn't say that he automatically relates to someone with education. And may I remind you that you specifically said a couple posts above that you don't relate with women because "women tend to be very shallow and boring. I'm left being the one trying to entertain them talking about mundane and boring things that they can relate to". Isn't that a repulsive smell to you ? First of all, I think the man can give his own responses and doesn't need you do to it for him. Secondly, what I said stands true for women regardless of their educational background. In fact, often it doesn't make any difference at all. | ||
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
On February 18 2014 17:08 Pniski wrote: George W. Bush graduated Yale University and got a degree in Harvard Business School. How easily do you find it to relate to him? And your statement itself suggests that you're as ignorant as the very people you seem to look down upon. With all your education you should understand that formal education can mean everything and at the same time mean absolutely nothing. I could be wrong and misinterpreted what you were trying to point out but I did feel a very smug and repulsive smell coming from it. I don't even ... it really ought to have gone unsaid that "education" in my example can be generalised to I don't know ... socioeconomic status or political views, or being a to the death fan of a given sports team. I also shouldn't need to point out that dating successfully over sometimes big class barriers (among else) is a thing that in spite of this does happen. | ||
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
On February 18 2014 18:14 Pniski wrote: First of all, I think the man can give his own responses and doesn't need you do to it for him. Secondly, what I said stands true for women regardless of their educational background. In fact, often it doesn't make any difference at all. Wait holy crap you said that? Ignore my previous post I am not talking to you lol. | ||
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krez
Australia59 Posts
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Pniski
United States17 Posts
I don't even ... it really ought to have gone unsaid that "education" in my example can be generalised to I don't know ... socioeconomic status or political views, or being a to the death fan of a given sports team. I also shouldn't need to point out that dating successfully over sometimes big class barriers (among else) is a thing that in spite of this does happen. Nothing of what you mentioned has anything to do with education. No matter how broadly you try to generalize it. If only educated people had strong political views and voted, we wouldn't have nearly as many problems as we currently have. You can have plenty of money and still be completely ignorant. (Donald Trump just being one example). Sports teams..? Also class has nothing to do with education. Anyone can get a public library card in the West. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On February 18 2014 18:14 Pniski wrote: First of all, I think the man can give his own responses and doesn't need you do to it for him. Secondly, what I said stands true for women regardless of their educational background. In fact, often it doesn't make any difference at all. Okay. Good luck. | ||
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GtC
United States546 Posts
Also, there are strong correlations between education and increased voter turnouts. As it turns out, educated people vote much more than uneducated people. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On February 18 2014 15:39 Pniski wrote: My biggest problem is not education, lack of financial stability or any of the usual suspects. I might not be in the best shape (guys these days push too hard with the whole working out thing), but that is not the problem either. My main issue is that women tend to be very shallow and boring. I'm left being the one trying to entertain them talking about mundane and boring things that they can relate to. Never had a meaningful conversation with a woman in my entire life. Not even on IRC where I spend most of my time. Perhaps I'm just too arrogant and exaggerate the issue but that's how I feel about it. I kinda know where Pniski is coming from . I am a pharmacy student and am surrounded by beautiful women all the time . I am friendly with most of them , liked and dated some of them but that is all . It's really hard to find a woman who has interests outside of looking good , spreading gossips , even their interests in music and films is very shallow (god awful bulgarian chalga , bad bulgarian raping , RnB , Hip Hop or whatever the hell that is or some of the american "pop artists" , to me this music is awful and i can't stand it). It's really hard to find a woman with similar interests or rather the ones that do have them tend to hide them from publicity . I go out with them to discos not because i enjoy the music there or my time spend , it's just that i feel bored and lonely in home by myself . Good thing that there are dudes with similar interest there or i wouldn't be caught dead going out in a disco to have fun . If it was at least music that i liked: pop , rock , metal i enjoy my time there , but no ...chalga , RnB and awful pop music. When i listen to it is making me think what the hell am i doing there . That's one of the reasons i go dead drunk most of the time , or find someone as bored as me and try talking to him . I enjoy listening to anything from classical music to metal , anything that has a proper intstrument in there used , decent voice or good interesting text ; Listening to music about drugs , sex , violence and the variance isn't so bad from time to time , but it's just boring and annoying most of the time ... I enjoy talking about anything science , art , nature , sports or other fields of entertainment related , like literaly everything . Most of my colleagues don't like to talk about pharmacology which is our main discipline , they only learn it because they have to ... I wonder then why the hell would they want to study pharmacy in the first place . It's hard to be motivated in dating because if you want a girl to like you have to act in a certain kind of way , but if you just want to get to know her first and don't rush the "romantical" stuff you end up being friendzoned . Sex and getting out of the loneliness is the only driving force in dating. Whatever comes after that is mostly based on luck . Looks like us nerds are having it hard , compared to the cool guys when it comes to dating . Not that i am complaining , i've enjoyed my time reading and finding out new things more then socialising with people anyway . | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34491 Posts
On February 18 2014 20:55 raga4ka wrote: I kinda know where Pniski is coming from . I am a pharmacy student and am surrounded by beautiful women all the time . I am friendly with most of them , liked and dated some of them but that is all . It's really hard to find a woman who has interests outside of looking good , spreading gossips , even their interests in music and films is very shallow (god awful bulgarian chalga , bad bulgarian raping , RnB , Hip Hop or whatever the hell that is or some of the american "pop artists" , to me this music is awful and i can't stand it). It's really hard to find a woman with similar interests or rather the ones that do have them tend to hide them from publicity . Women feel this way about men all the time. It's hardly a 'women' thing, it's a 'human' thing these days. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17992 Posts
On February 18 2014 15:47 Pniski wrote: This is something that I don't understand. Why people care so much about what their parents think when it comes to who they date? I've never consulted my parents on these issues, never talk about my short term relationships or anything like that. It's none of their business. If they can't respect the choices that I make in my life it means that they don't respect me and I don't want to have anything to do with people like that, even if they happen to be my family. And I don't celebrate Christmas - this fake sense of joy and happiness makes me sick. I didn't do that all my life. When I went to college, I had plenty of experience dating girls. All I do now is sit back and wait for this nightmare to end. Some people call it life. Are you a troll alt of Shauni's? | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On February 18 2014 21:21 Firebolt145 wrote: Women feel this way about men all the time. It's hardly a 'women' thing, it's a 'human' thing these days. I know this , everyone has their interests and it's not easy to find people from the oposide sex that shares their interests outside of the cultural metagame that people tends to follow. | ||
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Chaosu
Poland404 Posts
On February 18 2014 12:55 Dogfoodboy16 wrote: were able to gain American citizenship somehow because the US was in desperate need of scientists back then It's called brain drain and it's how USA builds their strenght... nowadays it's less visible because any country will be trying to "capture" others highly educated people but "back then" USA was leading in that process. | ||
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Calanthe
United States141 Posts
On February 18 2014 15:39 Pniski wrote: Not even on IRC where I spend most of my time. Can we emptyquote here? I'm emptyquoting. | ||
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