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Stop the country bashing, and the conspiracy theories or bans will start to be handed out.
Warlike Prince
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 22:51:20
September 09 2011 22:50 GMT
#101
I'm going with.

Biological attack
blamed on white al-cia-duh
followed by a forced vaccination

white is the new muslim, every new DHS commerical has white people commiting the attacks

edit : of course that is if anything happens at all
Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
September 09 2011 22:50 GMT
#102
I don't know if Iraq is 50x worse than it was in 91. Maybe if you go by the numbers, GDP/capita etc. But would you rather live in Iraq in '91 when some insane son of a dictator could mow down cars from an attack helicopter or live in a nation that can determine its own future. Times have gotten worse for them sure, but I would think now they have the opportunity to make a better life for themselves.

The same can be said for the Libyan people, although they rose up and took it on their own with much less outside interference. I'm not justifying Iraq, I think it was the wrong battleground to fight a war that needed to be fought somewhere in that region. But what's done is done and we aren't just leaving after killing Saddam and finding no WMD's (woops). At least the US is trying to help the people rebuild.
FearTheReaperMan
Profile Joined May 2011
154 Posts
September 09 2011 22:51 GMT
#103
On September 10 2011 07:49 RaFeStaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 07:41 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On September 10 2011 07:40 RaFeStaR wrote:
Why is it that whenever anything controversial is said regarding america(ns) certain people have to poke a stick? It's almost as if some of you condone terrorists killing innocent civilians. We do not provoke, we retaliate with force, and being the big jerks that we are, after we make you pay for your horrible actions, we rebuild your country and make it 20x better than it was before.

Iraq is about 50x worse than it was in 1991 lol. When will it be 20x better than it was in 1991? In a century?
Also, the self-righteousness and in your post is quite mind-numbing.



How is it worse? Having a country rebuilt with principles and security is worse? Also, shout jingoism all you want, but truth is truth.


You obviously haven't been to Iraq. It is a shit hole, you can ask your fellow Americans. (LOL)
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
September 09 2011 22:52 GMT
#104
On September 10 2011 07:46 zalz wrote:
It's pathetic how many people have crawled out of their dark corners to begin mastrubating to this horrible event. Ooh yeah baby, you know how i like my anti-Americanism, drenched in blood.

Ooh yeah and im the crazy one because i trust TEH MEDIA. It's much better to build a reality based on nothing but your own speculation and that thing your friend said when you were high.


Yeah, cause pointing out that fear of terrorism is overblown is the same as "masturbating to this horrible event". Do you realize how insulting that is?


Next week the US is gonna announce something silly and you can jump on that. Maybe even tommorow. But if you have an ounce of decency in you, leave your childish conspiracy stories out of this topic and stop making fun of 3000 dead people for little other reason then being bored.


No.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 22:55:12
September 09 2011 22:53 GMT
#105
On September 10 2011 07:49 RaFeStaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 07:41 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On September 10 2011 07:40 RaFeStaR wrote:
Why is it that whenever anything controversial is said regarding america(ns) certain people have to poke a stick? It's almost as if some of you condone terrorists killing innocent civilians. We do not provoke, we retaliate with force, and being the big jerks that we are, after we make you pay for your horrible actions, we rebuild your country and make it 20x better than it was before.

Iraq is about 50x worse than it was in 1991 lol. When will it be 20x better than it was in 1991? In a century?
Also, the self-righteousness and in your post is quite mind-numbing.



How is it worse? Having a country rebuilt with principles and security is worse? Also, shout jingoism all you want, but truth is truth.

Let's see. In 1991, there was actually security. There were actually things like functional power grids and people actually had clean water which is pretty difficult to get a hold of over there nowadays, there was a significant well-educated middle class, well-ordered educational and medical systems and many other services, a booming economy, large-scale infrastructural development, a GDP that was higher than it is now (given it had nearly half the population at that and 20 years ago), order and peace, secular social and political ideals (which are now being overrun by Iranian influence and religious fanaticism), and you're telling me now, when it's worse off than Egypt, a country it used to give quite a bit of welfare to, that it's better than it was from 20 years ago? You are truly a joker .

You are correct, I am telling the truth. Truth is truth *shrugs*
chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
September 09 2011 22:55 GMT
#106
Be safe everyone... I hope the best for all you guys who is endangered. Maybe everyone should just chill and watch football on Sunday this weekend.
"Hopefully you're not the real TLO so it's not casted" - SpecialK
Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
September 09 2011 22:56 GMT
#107
On September 10 2011 07:44 FearTheReaperMan wrote:
Thats all so fucking subjective, and I believe if you think/(committing the act itself) that killing another human being, you are mentally sick and a psychopath. No matter the reason.


If a man walked up to you with a gun and said "i have been told by god to kill you" would you simply allow him to pull the trigger?

Or might you think about fighting back and stopping him, maybe even killing him to protect yourself if that's what it takes?

Sure these are subjective arguments, some people believe that violence is never a solution to a problem. I believe that violence is a last resort, but in some cases you have to make use of it to get something done that is otherwise impossible yet absolutely necessary.
RaFeStaR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States161 Posts
September 09 2011 22:56 GMT
#108
On September 10 2011 07:53 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 07:49 RaFeStaR wrote:
On September 10 2011 07:41 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On September 10 2011 07:40 RaFeStaR wrote:
Why is it that whenever anything controversial is said regarding america(ns) certain people have to poke a stick? It's almost as if some of you condone terrorists killing innocent civilians. We do not provoke, we retaliate with force, and being the big jerks that we are, after we make you pay for your horrible actions, we rebuild your country and make it 20x better than it was before.

Iraq is about 50x worse than it was in 1991 lol. When will it be 20x better than it was in 1991? In a century?
Also, the self-righteousness and in your post is quite mind-numbing.



How is it worse? Having a country rebuilt with principles and security is worse? Also, shout all you want, but truth is truth.

Let's see. In 1991, there was actually security. There were actually things like functional power grids and people actually had clean water which is pretty difficult to get a hold of over there nowadays, there was a significant well-educated middle class, well-ordered educational and medical systems and many other services, a booming economy, large-scale infrastructural development, a GDP that was higher than it is now (given it had nearly half the population at that and 20 years ago), order and peace, secular social and political ideals (which are now being overrun by Iranian influence and religious fanaticism), and you're telling me now, when it's worse off than Egypt, a country it used to give quite a bit of welfare to, that it's better than it was from 20 years ago? You are truly a joker .

You are correct, I am telling the truth. Truth is truth *shrugs*



So is that la-la land before or after they started harboring terrorists?
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 23:13:02
September 09 2011 22:59 GMT
#109
On September 10 2011 07:56 RaFeStaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 07:53 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On September 10 2011 07:49 RaFeStaR wrote:
On September 10 2011 07:41 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On September 10 2011 07:40 RaFeStaR wrote:
Why is it that whenever anything controversial is said regarding america(ns) certain people have to poke a stick? It's almost as if some of you condone terrorists killing innocent civilians. We do not provoke, we retaliate with force, and being the big jerks that we are, after we make you pay for your horrible actions, we rebuild your country and make it 20x better than it was before.

Iraq is about 50x worse than it was in 1991 lol. When will it be 20x better than it was in 1991? In a century?
Also, the self-righteousness and in your post is quite mind-numbing.



How is it worse? Having a country rebuilt with principles and security is worse? Also, shout all you want, but truth is truth.

Let's see. In 1991, there was actually security. There were actually things like functional power grids and people actually had clean water which is pretty difficult to get a hold of over there nowadays, there was a significant well-educated middle class, well-ordered educational and medical systems and many other services, a booming economy, large-scale infrastructural development, a GDP that was higher than it is now (given it had nearly half the population at that and 20 years ago), order and peace, secular social and political ideals (which are now being overrun by Iranian influence and religious fanaticism), and you're telling me now, when it's worse off than Egypt, a country it used to give quite a bit of welfare to, that it's better than it was from 20 years ago? You are truly a joker .

You are correct, I am telling the truth. Truth is truth *shrugs*



So is that la-la land before or after they started harboring terrorists?

HAHAHAHA!!! Okay, so let me get this straight. You still believe the bs in the media (that has been admitted to be bs) about them having ties to Al Qaeda? Let me guess, you also believe they have WMDs, am I right? Oh my god. You just lost any credibility you had.

Times have gotten worse for them sure, but I would think now they have the opportunity to make a better life for themselves.

Unfortunately, that is quite false lol. The only thing that could have possibly improved theoretically is the political scene, and given there's still partially a deadlock since the March 2010 'elections' which were known to be rife with fraud and crackdowns still by the government against even perceived protest to the government, I don't think it has improved. Then when you compare the current regime which does nothing to work for the people and build up the country, and the previous one which prioritized that, then yeah, it's actually quite worse. Not to mention the ruling party (Islamic Dawa) was founded as a Shi'a Islamist terror group lol.

So basically, there really is nothing that can be said to justify what's been done. Apologetics isn't the way to go.

Libya is a different story. It was not impoverished by 12 years of sanctions pushed and enforced by the US on literally... everything to and from the country, followed up by 7 years of total war and occupation, meaning that it isn't something you would think was out of post-apocalyptic fiction at the sight of it, but rather, the social, economic, and infrastructural, damage has not been overly significant. So, there is hope in the Libyan scenario.
Azerbaijan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States660 Posts
September 09 2011 22:59 GMT
#110
I think this will be closed soon, its pretty off topic now.
I blame the revisionists.

Personally I think people shouldn't take 24 so seriously.
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-09 23:10:17
September 09 2011 23:07 GMT
#111
This topic is pretty difficult depending on witch side of the story you believe.
The official version is pretty shaky but believed by a large majorities, the "revised" version is still very controversial because never admitted officially.
There will always be high confusion between posters because of the total antagonism in this stories. I've dug deep enough in the subject to have my own opinion but won't try to convince anyone to watch hours and hours of videos made by various engineers and architects around the world, because everyone is free to believe what he wants and if he's curious enough, I'll find by himself.
I really hope nothing wrong will happen on 11th. I cross my fingers. americans FIGHTING !!
_-NoMaN-_
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada250 Posts
September 09 2011 23:07 GMT
#112
On September 10 2011 05:18 IntoTheBush wrote:
if any of u really believe this I deeply suggest you watch some of Alex Jones' documentaries...



careful with your language; you come dangerously close to calling Alex Jones a journalist...
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
September 09 2011 23:09 GMT
#113
I don't know if this is a hoax or not. I just hope nothing dreadful like 9/11 happens again..
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
September 09 2011 23:09 GMT
#114
--- Nuked ---
_-NoMaN-_
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada250 Posts
September 09 2011 23:13 GMT
#115
So basically, there really is nothing that can be said to justify what's been done. Apologetics isn't the way to go.


+1
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
September 09 2011 23:13 GMT
#116
It's impossible to have a thread on TL discussing terrorism without all the loonies coming out of the woodwork with their paranoid conspiracy theories. It's really just sad, I don't know what else to say about it.

Anyway, I hope you all in DC or NY stay safe. Live your lives as normally as possible, don't let fear get to you.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
September 09 2011 23:15 GMT
#117
On September 10 2011 07:59 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 07:56 RaFeStaR wrote:
On September 10 2011 07:53 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On September 10 2011 07:49 RaFeStaR wrote:
On September 10 2011 07:41 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On September 10 2011 07:40 RaFeStaR wrote:
Why is it that whenever anything controversial is said regarding america(ns) certain people have to poke a stick? It's almost as if some of you condone terrorists killing innocent civilians. We do not provoke, we retaliate with force, and being the big jerks that we are, after we make you pay for your horrible actions, we rebuild your country and make it 20x better than it was before.

Iraq is about 50x worse than it was in 1991 lol. When will it be 20x better than it was in 1991? In a century?
Also, the self-righteousness and in your post is quite mind-numbing.



How is it worse? Having a country rebuilt with principles and security is worse? Also, shout all you want, but truth is truth.

Let's see. In 1991, there was actually security. There were actually things like functional power grids and people actually had clean water which is pretty difficult to get a hold of over there nowadays, there was a significant well-educated middle class, well-ordered educational and medical systems and many other services, a booming economy, large-scale infrastructural development, a GDP that was higher than it is now (given it had nearly half the population at that and 20 years ago), order and peace, secular social and political ideals (which are now being overrun by Iranian influence and religious fanaticism), and you're telling me now, when it's worse off than Egypt, a country it used to give quite a bit of welfare to, that it's better than it was from 20 years ago? You are truly a joker .

You are correct, I am telling the truth. Truth is truth *shrugs*



So is that la-la land before or after they started harboring terrorists?

HAHAHAHA!!! Okay, so let me get this straight. You still believe the bs in the media (that has been admitted to be bs) about them having ties to Al Qaeda? Let me guess, you also believe they have WMDs, am I right? Oh my god. You just lost any credibility you had.

Show nested quote +
Times have gotten worse for them sure, but I would think now they have the opportunity to make a better life for themselves.

Unfortunately, that is quite false lol. The only thing that could have possibly improved theoretically is the political scene, and given there's still partially a deadlock since the March 2010 'elections' which were known to be rife with fraud and crackdowns still by the government against even perceived protest to the government, I don't think it has improved. Then when you compare the current regime which does nothing to work for the people and build up the country, and the previous one which prioritized that, then yeah, it's actually quite worse. Not to mention the ruling party (Islamic Dawa) was founded as a Shi'a Islamist terror group lol.

So basically, there really is nothing that can be said to justify what's been done. Apologetics isn't the way to go.

Who's apologizing? Saddam's Iraq committed genocide against namely the Kurds and Shia Muslims using bio and chemical weapons. I know you picked the convenient date of 1991, because that is when Desert Strike 1 ended and the UN coalition restored Kuwait to its original borders.(not to mention Saddam, as he was retreating, set hundreds of Kuwait oil wells on fire, causing a disastrous loss of economy for Kuwait). But do you care about the millions of his own people that he killed? Or are they just made up by the media? You can't, with a reasoned investigation of Iraq and Hussein, say that it was a stable, orderly, and good place. There are tons of reasons I haven't even included.
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
September 09 2011 23:15 GMT
#118
On September 10 2011 05:07 K_Dilkington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 05:00 AxelTVx wrote:
I think it's sickening to think that the Al Qaeda's would stoop so low as to make everyone remember the travesty that had happened 10 years ago. What are your thoughts on this issue that may occur?


You write about Al Qaeda like they're regular guys. Ofcourse they will " stoop so low as to make everyone remember the travesty that had happened 10 years ago", they are the ones that did it! They are fanatical fundamentalist terrorist that hate America and the west more than anything. They would drop an atom bomb on America if they ever got the chance.

ont: I hope they catch them.



I've read that Al Qaeda wouldn't want to nuke the U.S, even if they could.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
cyanide66
Profile Joined September 2010
137 Posts
September 09 2011 23:15 GMT
#119
Its going to be 911 times a hundred... Yes, 91,100.
Cosmology
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada360 Posts
September 09 2011 23:29 GMT
#120
I think people buy into some shit too easily, America isn't rounding up every Muslim and asking them if they're a terrorist via torture even though some people like to make it seem that way.

Now for the iffy bit of my post, the USA needs to take threats of terrorism VERY seriously and the usualy suspects are Muslims, not because it is a stereotype but because the extremists we are at war with are Muslim, so it makes sense that the majority of detainees are Muslim.

Now the Media likes to blow things up for political gain, I am a very liberal person but I can admit that people would use the patriot act to make Bush look like a shit bag.

Anyways, I think that America is a great country and the people who work in the CIA aren't what the movies make them out to be btw. They are an organization with limited resources.
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