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Stop the country bashing, and the conspiracy theories or bans will start to be handed out.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
September 10 2011 09:05 GMT
#201
Has anyone else wondered if / or how many people are being waterboarded right now, regarding the actual topic of this thread ? I wonder if the attack succeeds, what questions will come about what investigative methods were passed up because they were considered torture by this Administration.
Ciraxis
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia400 Posts
September 10 2011 12:13 GMT
#202
Today I was reading the wikipedia page about 9/11 and I came across an interesting statistic which I'd like to share:

Some Americans, alarmed at the prospect of flying, instead traveled by car. This resulted in an estimated 1,595 more excess highway deaths in the ensuing year.*


Fear is a powerful thing which manifests itself in various ways. Why should I even bother caring about the new Al Qaeda terrorist "threat"?

* Gardner, Daniel (2008). The Science of Fear: Why We Fear the Things We Shouldn't--and Put Ourselves in Greater Danger. Dutton Adult. pp. 3. ISBN 0525950621.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
September 10 2011 12:21 GMT
#203
Al Qaeda would have to kill a ton more civilians to even come close to the number of civilians that the US has killed. That's in the last 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years or 100 years... take your pick.

Neither is right. But to be clear, if it's wrong for them to do it- it's wrong for us to do it.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
September 10 2011 12:52 GMT
#204
On September 10 2011 18:05 Kaitlin wrote:
Has anyone else wondered if / or how many people are being waterboarded right now, regarding the actual topic of this thread ? I wonder if the attack succeeds, what questions will come about what investigative methods were passed up because they were considered torture by this Administration.

I realize you're a troll(like in all your posts). I'll bite though. Wasn't it the last administration performing water boarding? Not to mention it was banned under the current administration because it's torture.
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
September 10 2011 13:22 GMT
#205
On September 10 2011 05:00 AxelTVx wrote:
I think it's sickening to think that the Al Qaeda's would stoop so low as to make everyone remember the travesty that had happened 10 years ago. What are your thoughts on this issue that may occur?

Uh, why don't you say the same crap to all the TV stations running their specials that are drudging up tons of memories.
Skype: divito7
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-10 13:43:12
September 10 2011 13:41 GMT
#206
On September 10 2011 21:13 Ciraxis wrote:
Today I was reading the wikipedia page about 9/11 and I came across an interesting statistic which I'd like to share:

Show nested quote +
Some Americans, alarmed at the prospect of flying, instead traveled by car. This resulted in an estimated 1,595 more excess highway deaths in the ensuing year.*


Fear is a powerful thing which manifests itself in various ways. Why should I even bother caring about the new Al Qaeda terrorist "threat"?



You don't have to care, but don't stop the government from doing their job to disturb and prevent terrorist attack. People dies from car crash are different than people dies from terrorist attack, as one is intentional and can be stopped, people aren't driving in hope getting into a car crash.

And comparing the death toll to 9/11 is just narrow way of thinking. Government ain't doing it to rewrite history, they are doing it based on prevention logic. What if they got hold of something more terrible such as dirty bomb, it can easily blow through the roof in terms of number.

If you let terrorist network grow unchecked, it will just become more problematic in the future, as it can easily snowball out of hand, like Mexico's war on drugs for example.

The real question is, how much is too much?
Leenock the Punisher
darklight54321
Profile Joined July 2011
United States361 Posts
September 10 2011 14:57 GMT
#207
On September 10 2011 21:52 muse5187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 18:05 Kaitlin wrote:
Has anyone else wondered if / or how many people are being waterboarded right now, regarding the actual topic of this thread ? I wonder if the attack succeeds, what questions will come about what investigative methods were passed up because they were considered torture by this Administration.

I realize you're a troll(like in all your posts). I'll bite though. Wasn't it the last administration performing water boarding? Not to mention it was banned under the current administration because it's torture.



You misunderstand, I think he's saying that if the attack succeeds, and becuase of all the shit about "advanced interrogation techniques", noone was succesfully interrogated for the information, whether these techniques will be allowed again / public brings up a shitstorm about not doing enough to learn about what happened.


And most of those aren't torture.....and dont bring up "mental torture" since jail itself impairs people mentally.
darklight54321
Profile Joined July 2011
United States361 Posts
September 10 2011 15:00 GMT
#208
On September 10 2011 21:21 cursor wrote:
Al Qaeda would have to kill a ton more civilians to even come close to the number of civilians that the US has killed. That's in the last 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years or 100 years... take your pick.

Neither is right. But to be clear, if it's wrong for them to do it- it's wrong for us to do it.



I'd like to see the source, i've noticed you talking a lot about the number of civilians killed,so heres a challenge for you.


Find the war/time period

Find the amount of civilians killed by the opposite sides during these wars/time periods.


If your statistics are correct, i'll give in, otherwise stfu and back your information up. During the whole iraqi war, Terrorists killed more civilians then the US did. I'd be willing to bet money that this was true 80-90% of the time throughout history.
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
September 10 2011 15:09 GMT
#209
Whenever I look on the left tabs on TL home page, I keep seeing this thread and the Best/Strongest superhero and I keep thinking it says "Best Al Qaeda Attacks"

-.-
savior & jaedong
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
September 10 2011 15:20 GMT
#210
On September 11 2011 00:09 Arterial wrote:
Whenever I look on the left tabs on TL home page, I keep seeing this thread and the Best/Strongest superhero and I keep thinking it says "Best Al Qaeda Attacks"

-.-


ROFL thanks for providing the lols mate
Chillzz
Profile Joined October 2010
2 Posts
September 10 2011 15:35 GMT
#211
On September 10 2011 09:00 Chillzz wrote:
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/evidence.html

There is some very interesting information given out by engineers and architects regarding the collapse of the world trade center buildings. If you watch the full movie they do a full rundown of the comparison between controlled demolitions and the collapse of the world trade center buildings.

User was warned for this post

Getting warned for this because it's a conspiracy theory? I guess it's just that if you don't take scientific reasoning and the UNDENIABLE PROOF presented by of architects and engineers who are devoted to debunking the myth that 2 airplanes caused the complete destruction of 3 buildings. If you don't believe in science and physics then you should just give up hope.

User was banned for this post.
eu-gogo
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal16 Posts
September 10 2011 15:45 GMT
#212
people in fear are easier to control
This is no quote.
ZeGzoR
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden307 Posts
September 10 2011 15:48 GMT
#213
On September 11 2011 00:35 Chillzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 09:00 Chillzz wrote:
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/evidence.html

There is some very interesting information given out by engineers and architects regarding the collapse of the world trade center buildings. If you watch the full movie they do a full rundown of the comparison between controlled demolitions and the collapse of the world trade center buildings.

User was warned for this post

Getting warned for this because it's a conspiracy theory? I guess it's just that if you don't take scientific reasoning and the UNDENIABLE PROOF presented by of architects and engineers who are devoted to debunking the myth that 2 airplanes caused the complete destruction of 3 buildings. If you don't believe in science and physics then you should just give up hope.


Your like all the others in the so called "truth-movement", completly full of crap. You dont understand physics to realize that an airplane traveling in high speed sure can demolish big buildings. Also the so called experts u refer to? Some eastern european who cant even speak english.

You cant denie the UNDIENIABLE PROOF presented by the fact that everybody saw 2 airplanes crash into the buildings, and that is what caused the collapse..
yeah yeah im going
H0i
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands484 Posts
September 10 2011 15:55 GMT
#214
On September 11 2011 00:48 ZeGzoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 00:35 Chillzz wrote:
On September 10 2011 09:00 Chillzz wrote:
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/evidence.html

There is some very interesting information given out by engineers and architects regarding the collapse of the world trade center buildings. If you watch the full movie they do a full rundown of the comparison between controlled demolitions and the collapse of the world trade center buildings.

User was warned for this post

Getting warned for this because it's a conspiracy theory? I guess it's just that if you don't take scientific reasoning and the UNDENIABLE PROOF presented by of architects and engineers who are devoted to debunking the myth that 2 airplanes caused the complete destruction of 3 buildings. If you don't believe in science and physics then you should just give up hope.


Your like all the others in the so called "truth-movement", completly full of crap. You dont understand physics to realize that an airplane traveling in high speed sure can demolish big buildings. Also the so called experts u refer to? Some eastern european who cant even speak english.

You cant denie the UNDIENIABLE PROOF presented by the fact that everybody saw 2 airplanes crash into the buildings, and that is what caused the collapse..

Let's not go off topic?

I'm not going to take sides here, but I recommend you stay objective. If you watch this video, the people in it come with good arguments. It isn't ridiculous just because it is a conspiracy theory! In fact, it is a conspiracy theory for sure. They question that's being asked, is where is the conspiracy. Did terrorists conspire to take down the wtc? Did the american government conspire to take down the wtc? Did the terrorists conspire with the government to do it? Which one is true is irrelevant, it is a conspiracy regardless of who really did it and why.

Ad hominem arguments to people in this video and people who support them only further degrades the quality of your post. Again, why not be objective and come with facts, or just ignore the post, instead of trying to prove your opinion with ad hominem arguments?
eu-gogo
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal16 Posts
September 10 2011 15:58 GMT
#215
On September 11 2011 00:48 ZeGzoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 00:35 Chillzz wrote:
On September 10 2011 09:00 Chillzz wrote:
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/evidence.html

There is some very interesting information given out by engineers and architects regarding the collapse of the world trade center buildings. If you watch the full movie they do a full rundown of the comparison between controlled demolitions and the collapse of the world trade center buildings.

User was warned for this post

Getting warned for this because it's a conspiracy theory? I guess it's just that if you don't take scientific reasoning and the UNDENIABLE PROOF presented by of architects and engineers who are devoted to debunking the myth that 2 airplanes caused the complete destruction of 3 buildings. If you don't believe in science and physics then you should just give up hope.


Your like all the others in the so called "truth-movement", completly full of crap. You dont understand physics to realize that an airplane traveling in high speed sure can demolish big buildings. Also the so called experts u refer to? Some eastern european who cant even speak english.

You cant denie the UNDIENIABLE PROOF presented by the fact that everybody saw 2 airplanes crash into the buildings, and that is what caused the collapse..


Heh you might be eastern european then since you can't spell either.
Anyways, it doesn't matter how much who caused 9/11, the american authorities used it as an excuse for violations of every kind.
Even after being unmasked by Wikileaks and.. hey, read it yourself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikileaks#Leaks
What the US did is the latest great tragedy, exacerbated by this social media that exists now, whereas before nothing would be known to the public, unfortunately the EU or rest of the world is not strong enough to take US officials to international court, but don't doubt for one minute their guilt.
This is no quote.
Tanukki
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland579 Posts
September 10 2011 16:04 GMT
#216
I think the truth movement is dumb, what's the point in ordinary people trying to solve a real life murder mystery? So you got some evidence, what are you going to do with it? Take the US to court?

An attack happened and terrorists took credit for it. Whatever, it's the wars and goverment policies that happened as a consequence that are really hurting people. Yet here we are, 10 years later still anxious about the boogie men that might come from the sky to wreck our shit.
H0i
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-10 16:10:00
September 10 2011 16:08 GMT
#217
On September 11 2011 01:04 Tanukki wrote:
I think the truth movement is dumb, what's the point in ordinary people trying to solve a real life murder mystery? So you got some evidence, what are you going to do with it? Take the US to court?

An attack happened and terrorists took credit for it. Whatever, it's the wars and goverment policies that happened as a consequence that are really hurting people. Yet here we are, 10 years later still anxious about the boogie men that might come from the sky to wreck our shit.

This is correct, but I think I know what the truth movement wants to accomplish. If they can succeed in convincing people, then these people will also be a lot more critical against those wars and government policies. People in the truth movement are very critical of those policies and wars, and want to convince people so they also become critical of the policies and wars.

And all people are ordinary people. Police are ordinary people, politicians are ordinary people, etc.
Tanukki
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland579 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-10 16:21:31
September 10 2011 16:19 GMT
#218
I guess so. But if you want to get involved in politics, just being anti-goverment is not enough...people need to be armed with more than a truth of what happened 10 years ago. They need new ideologies and representatives to overwrite the current regime, go beyond just blindly voting out the current president.
H0i
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands484 Posts
September 10 2011 16:24 GMT
#219
That is true. There are plenty of better alternatives and new ideologies around though, they just need to be spread. I do have the idea that especially the last 10 years the common man has become a lot smarter and wiser, people are starting to understand war, poverty and hate is bad. It's sad that truthers usually don't come up with alternative ideologies, but I guess people will search on their own.
partisan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States783 Posts
September 10 2011 16:27 GMT
#220
On September 10 2011 05:18 IntoTheBush wrote:
if any of u really believe this I deeply suggest you watch some of Alex Jones' documentaries...



Alex Jones is a crackpot.
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