EPTal caida stuff is getting old
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Stop the country bashing, and the conspiracy theories or bans will start to be handed out. | ||
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Mereel
Germany895 Posts
al caida stuff is getting old | ||
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
On September 10 2011 10:20 hotbreakfest wrote: No, at least I admit that I don't know everything like most of the "self-proclaimed experts" around here. Any thread on TL that involves American Politics in any sort of way devolves into America bashing, regardless of the OP's intentions. It just got on my nerves recently. That's understandable. Most (actually all) of the Americans I've met has been the utmost pleasant people. I think there's a general mix-up between the American government and it's people. | ||
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forgotten0ne
United States951 Posts
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H0i
Netherlands484 Posts
On September 10 2011 10:20 hotbreakfest wrote: No, at least I admit that I don't know everything like most of the "self-proclaimed experts" around here. Any thread on TL that involves American Politics in any sort of way devolves into America bashing, regardless of the OP's intentions. I usually ignore stupid comments, but it's been getting on my nerves recently. It is not really america bashing, it's more american government/foreign "policy" and american corporation (capitalism) bashing. Don't see it like a personal attack. I'm not a fan of america myself, I don't have problems with the people at all, I have problems with how the government and the capitalism/corporations affect the people, not only the people in america but the people on the entire world. America obviously isn't the only bad guy in these areas, all countries are to some degree. "We" are not against you, we are with you. Threads on politics changing into "this" is not exclusive for teamliquid, it happens on every forum, in every discussion, etc. | ||
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v3chr0
United States856 Posts
I really don't fully believe the threats are 100% sincere in regard to how extreme the media makes it out to be. I've learned to just listen, and have that in the back of my mind if anything does happen or look undeniably suspicious. To another degree, indirectly, it definitely shows how weak and oppress-able the American public is when it comes to freedoms, and rights. We lost a ton come 9/11, I'm not saying their all useless, but when it comes to what the Gov. can't do, theres very little. All they have to do is declare this and that and you're rights are revoked, it's scary, especially when this is SUPPOSED to be a republic. | ||
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oldgregg
New Zealand1176 Posts
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Seldentar
United States888 Posts
On September 10 2011 10:36 oldgregg wrote: be afraid people, be very afraid LOL you're on the terrorists side, are you? That's exactly what they want  | ||
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hotbreakfest
United States145 Posts
On September 10 2011 10:22 Sina92 wrote: That's understandable. Most (actually all) of the Americans I've met has been the utmost pleasant people. I think there's a general mix-up between the American government and it's people. I'm fine with people crapping on my government, because it doesn't REALLY represent the people. I have a problem with idiots like Ryfje, because they can't tell the difference. They think that the overwhelming majority of Americans are a bunch stupid rednecks, because they saw the Westboro Baptist Church doing a "GOD HATES FAGS!!1!" protest at a military funeral on the internet/TV. On September 10 2011 10:26 H0i wrote: It is not really america bashing, it's more american government/foreign "policy" and american corporation (capitalism) bashing. Don't see it like a personal attack. I'm not a fan of america myself, I don't have problems with the people at all, I have problems with how the government and the capitalism/corporations affect the people, not only the people in america but the people on the entire world. America obviously isn't the only bad guy in these areas, all countries are to some degree. "We" are not against you, we are with you. Threads on politics changing into "this" is not exclusive for teamliquid, it happens on every forum, in every discussion, etc. The problem is when "American Government/Big Business" bashing becomes blurred with "America" bashing. Although every place has it's share of idiots, I tend to hold TL in higher regard than the rest of the internet which sometimes leads to disappointment. | ||
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stokes17
United States1411 Posts
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Veritask
260 Posts
The one thing I'm absolutely certain about is that air travel will be safer this weekend than it ever has been. | ||
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Seldentar
United States888 Posts
On September 10 2011 10:22 Sina92 wrote: That's understandable. Most (actually all) of the Americans I've met has been the utmost pleasant people. I think there's a general mix-up between the American government and it's people. In my experience people from places like Texas are some of the friendliest you'll ever meet, but many of those around Washington D.C. are so rude it's ridiculous. There's a lot of people from New York that are like that as well, but many are great. You really can't generalize an entire country from the 0.0000001% portion of the population that you've met. *Off topic post just felt the need to address that * | ||
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oldgregg
New Zealand1176 Posts
On September 10 2011 10:41 stokes17 wrote: I hope our government can do everything within its power to stop any potential attacks... and i have faith that the government won't use the threat of an attack to infringe on our freedoms for our safety. that's already happened man, see the PATRIOT act | ||
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
On September 10 2011 05:15 Seldentar wrote: Maybe because our agencies find them and stop the attacks before they happen? Either that or the terrorists are trying to scare us. We cant just completely ignore it, but you are right. This claim has been called before, but just because they keep on catching the criminals doesnt mean we can just ignore it every time | ||
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muse5187
1125 Posts
On topic: I'd be safe if I lived in a big city. I'm not going to worry tho because I'm currently in the middle of no where. | ||
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H0i
Netherlands484 Posts
On September 10 2011 10:43 oldgregg wrote: that's already happened man, see the PATRIOT act I think he was being sarcastic  On September 10 2011 10:46 muse5187 wrote: Ok, we get it you hate America. It got old 10 years ago. If you disagree so much with our government why don't you change the way your EU countries follow the US like the sheep they are. Go do something about it. Maybe because, while many of us are aware of this, it's very hard to mobilize and really do something. Just like the revolution in egypt, it could have happened 5 years ago with the correct trigger for those events. And actually, many many people are very busy doing just this, but just like in your country, politicians no longer represent the people, they represent their own interests and big corporate/bank interests. | ||
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muse5187
1125 Posts
On September 10 2011 10:50 H0i wrote: I think he was being sarcastic Maybe because, while many of us are aware of this, it's very hard to mobilize and really do something. Just like the revolution in egypt, it could have happened 5 years ago with the correct trigger for those events. And actually, many many people are very busy doing just this, but just like in your country, politicians no longer represent the people, they represent their own interests and big corporate/bank interests. Well with that being said it sounds more like a global problem doesn't it? Or do you guys just blame us because YOUR government also failed you? It's not like we voted your leaders(followers). The whole let's blame USA for all our problems isn't going to fix anything. Only going to alienate more people. | ||
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hotbreakfest
United States145 Posts
On September 10 2011 10:50 H0i wrote: I think he was being sarcastic Maybe because, while many of us are aware of this, it's very hard to mobilize and really do something. Just like the revolution in egypt, it could have happened 5 years ago with the correct trigger for those events. And actually, many many people are very busy doing just this, but just like in your country, politicians no longer represent the people, they represent their own interests and big corporate/bank interests. Uh, there have been almost no politicians in history that have been for the people. Please don't post the big names like Nelson Mandela, because for every saint there like 100s of asswipes and 1000s of "average guys who never actually did anything". | ||
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H0i
Netherlands484 Posts
On September 10 2011 10:51 muse5187 wrote: Well with that being said it sounds more like a global problem doesn't it? Or do you guys just blame us because YOUR government also failed you? It's not like we voted your leaders(followers). The whole let's blame USA for all our problems isn't going to fix anything. Only going to alienate more people. Sure, it is a global problem. I never said it isn't. But in the case of the evil wars in iraq/afghanistan america started this. Europe helped, but america's government started this senseless war. It's also the only country that has 1000+ military bases spread around... the entire planet. The only country that has never known more than 5 years of peace. And america's corporations are the largest, most evil ones. I remember a list of the 100 biggest economical powers (I'll try to find a link later). 46 were countries and 54 corporations. 48 of the 54 biggest global economical powers are american corporations. Trust me, we whine about and bash our own government(s) just as much as america's government, if not more. User was warned for this post | ||
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RuthUnderwood
10 Posts
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H0i
Netherlands484 Posts
On September 10 2011 10:58 hotbreakfest wrote: Uh, there have been almost no politicians in history that have been for the people. Please don't post the big names like Nelson Mandela, because for every saint there like 100s of asswipes and 1000s of "average guys who never actually did anything". That's not really true. There have been a few, and there are some at this moment, but nearly none of those are in the coalition or are president/have an important task. But looking at the big picture, you're right. "No longer" was bad usage of words on my side. Don't you think no politicians being for the people is a problem? Why does this happen? We, as the human species, should put aside out differences and use a better system, and if we need leaders then we shouldn't ever allow them to be corrupt. | ||
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