EPTBut seriously that's BS, 57 FTs to 15? You've gotta be joking me. I don't really know if you can call the OP biased; if you look at the video the Chinese players run off the bench and basically maul one player, and then chase another one to the sidelines and start beating on him. That's just thuggish and doesn't belong in the sport. Can't imagine any colleges are going to want to go play there in the future after this shit.
American college team in brawl with Chinese team - Page 2
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S.O.L.I.D.
United States792 Posts
But seriously that's BS, 57 FTs to 15? You've gotta be joking me. I don't really know if you can call the OP biased; if you look at the video the Chinese players run off the bench and basically maul one player, and then chase another one to the sidelines and start beating on him. That's just thuggish and doesn't belong in the sport. Can't imagine any colleges are going to want to go play there in the future after this shit. | ||
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Medrea
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 19 2011 06:10 DonnaSmith wrote: Wow that was lucky, look guys we actually have an eye witness here on teamliquid. + Show Spoiler + you can't be serious right? What the fuck. He posted a video, I watched said video and stated my opinion. | ||
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Contagious
United States1319 Posts
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kakaman
United States1576 Posts
On August 19 2011 06:13 BlackJack wrote: I can't determine what point you're trying to make about the free throw disparity. The chinese team is the one that took 57 free throws which means they were the ones getting fouled a ton. edit: misread Read this http://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=24494&page=1#448237 Have you ever seen college sports? Very rarely, if ever, do teams have full on brawls. It was definitely instigated by the Chinese team. For some reason the Chinese basketball has a history of fighting on the court, see China vs Brazil. | ||
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KomradeKevin
United States88 Posts
Personally, from the foul count and having played lots of refereed sports, when a team feels like they are getting taken advantage of by the refs, they tend to take things into their own hands. I would put my money on the fact that both sides were trying to have a good game and were most likely matching each others' intensity. When a team feels they are getting called for things that the other side is getting away with they tend to go on tilt. When you are playing a sport that already has physical contact, it is easy for the rage to turn to a fight. In esports, there is separation so we only get things like "fuck off" or a no-gg rage quit. Something like this does not change my opinion of any of the players or teams they represent. Fights happen in sports, look at hockey where they are practically celebrated. It isn't something any sport should or probably is proud of but it happens when you have humans competing and giving their all. | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 19 2011 06:16 S.O.L.I.D. wrote: YEAH AMERICA GET EM But seriously that's BS, 57 FTs to 15? You've gotta be joking me. I don't really know if you can call the OP biased; if you look at the video the Chinese players run off the bench and basically maul one player, and then chase another one to the sidelines and start beating on him. That's just thuggish and doesn't belong in the sport. Can't imagine any colleges are going to want to go play there in the future after this shit. If this was between two NBA teams, the first thing I think of is not "holy shit, refs are being bought" I would think "holy shit one team played really rough and got a lot of fouls called..." but I guess once it's another country involved, American pride overtakes common sense right? | ||
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Grettin
42384 Posts
No really, really stupid to start something like this. Really hard to tell who started it from the video. | ||
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blobrus
4297 Posts
On August 19 2011 06:11 BlackJack wrote: How can you blame the Chinese players, OP? You weren't even there. According to the article the Chinese team took 4 times as many free throws which means either the refs were crooked or the Georgetown players were the ones playing rough There's no way a 40 free throw disparity can exist without at least some bias on the part of referees. Especially between two teams that have never played, while one is from another country. Usually 20 free throws is considering a huge different, 40 is pretty much impossible. | ||
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Vegalive
United States96 Posts
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The_LiNk
Canada863 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On August 19 2011 06:13 BlackJack wrote: I can't determine what point you're trying to make about the free throw disparity. The chinese team is the one that took 57 free throws which means they were the ones getting fouled a ton. edit: misread Or the ref is being a piece of shit, and if the ref is being a dick might as well actually start earning those fowls instead of getting called on fowls that you didn't actually do. | ||
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Sipher
United States333 Posts
On August 19 2011 06:16 Condor Hero wrote: Do those people happen to be American? Not saying they're lying but it's easy to be biased especially when nationality is involved. Also you're talking about the game. I'm talking about the fight, you obviously place the blame squarely on the Chinese team. From that video, how can you even tell who started the fight? Even if the game is rough, that's no excuse to start a fight. Free throws is certainly correlation with bias in referees but it's not proof. I have a hard time believing that the Chinese team would agree to host American college teams just to shit on it. In my mind a far more likely scenario would be that the game got rough (possibly caused by some cultural differences) then the public and second hand viewers gets inflamed by the accounts of the first hand viewers/commentators (who are very possibly biased). Both teams are wrong and since it's in China obviously you see more Chinese people acting like idiots (think Pacers/Pistons brawl). Are you serious!?!!?!? I would agree perhaps put some blame also on Georgetown...But NOTHING can be said that has chairs being hit at another person as acceptable retaliation. And a few Chinese Pros ganging up on one college kid? That's just inexcusable. I don't see how you can even say it's American bias. | ||
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K_Dilkington
Sweden449 Posts
On August 19 2011 06:16 Condor Hero wrote: Do those people happen to be American? Not saying they're lying but it's easy to be biased especially when nationality is involved. Also you're talking about the game. I'm talking about the fight, you obviously place the blame squarely on the Chinese team. From that video, how can you even tell who started the fight? Even if the game is rough, that's no excuse to start a fight. Free throws is certainly correlation with bias in referees but it's not proof. I have a hard time believing that the Chinese team would agree to host American college teams just to shit on it. In my mind a far more likely scenario would be that the game got rough (possibly caused by some cultural differences) then the public and second hand viewers gets inflamed by the accounts of the first hand viewers/commentators (who are very possibly biased). Both teams are wrong and since it's in China obviously you see more Chinese people acting like idiots (think Pacers/Pistons brawl). It's more likely that the Chinese team is to blame because they have home court. That a foreign team would start a fight when they're invited to another country is extremely unlikely. | ||
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Sipher
United States333 Posts
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 19 2011 06:22 K_Dilkington wrote: It's more likely that the Chinese team is to blame because they have home court. That a foreign team would start a fight when they're invited to another country is extremely unlikely. Agreed, both teams shouldn't have descending to brawling and the Chinese team deserves a ton of flak for getting into a fight where they have obvious numbers but the video OP provided is inconclusive of who's to blame and does not justify the obvious bias he has. | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On August 19 2011 06:15 Sipher wrote: Oh wow, against a Big East team. I always enjoy it when Georgetown comes to play at my university (USF), they don't seem like bad people. Kinda sad to see Pros beat up on a college kid like that. I dunno if it can be attributed to shit talking since most Chinese can't really speak English very well. But I may be incorrect in that statement. Nevertheless, it was a sad video to see. Also want to say...Those fans in the crowd should be ashamed of themselves. Along with the security that was there. those fans, its just the chinese culture lol... chinese loves dramas ^^ if u have seen random chinese citizens fighting on the street with tons of ppl watching, then u wont be surprised, lawl | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On August 19 2011 06:19 blobrus wrote: There's no way a 40 free throw disparity can exist without at least some bias on the part of referees. Especially between two teams that have never played, while one is from another country. Usually 20 free throws is considering a huge different, 40 is pretty much impossible. Yeah, I agree with that. The refs were most likely biased which has a tendency to cause a lot of frustration in the team they are biased against, which can help to get things escalated. | ||
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oniman999
United States169 Posts
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boon2537
United States905 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Damn, I have no sense of humor lol | ||
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