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nordlyset
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway38 Posts
August 18 2011 21:30 GMT
#41
oh, im sorry, i thought this was america!
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
August 18 2011 21:30 GMT
#42
Can't tell who started this one but I remember there was another fight some time back that involved a chinese team as well.
droxe
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany95 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 21:32:11
August 18 2011 21:31 GMT
#43
And this is why we support E-sports.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 18 2011 21:31 GMT
#44
what's disturbing in these videos is no one on the Chinese team tries to separate the players
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 18 2011 21:34 GMT
#45
Given the competitiveness of american basketball, I wouldn't be surprised if Georgetown played more physical than the Chinese team was used to - and the Chinese team got frustrated and reacted poorly.

Pure speculation though, I couldn't tell wtf happened in the video.
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
August 18 2011 21:37 GMT
#46
On August 19 2011 06:08 lithium3n wrote:
More sinophobia threads, first bear bile, then hunting of endangered animals.

Since when are Americans endangered animals? They don't seem endangered at all.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
August 18 2011 21:38 GMT
#47
Forget sides and which team is "at fault" the referees who officiate any games that comes to a point where it gets so out of control should be ashamed of themselves.
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JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
August 18 2011 21:39 GMT
#48
On August 19 2011 06:37 Dagobert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 06:08 lithium3n wrote:
More sinophobia threads, first bear bile, then hunting of endangered animals.

Since when are Americans endangered animals? They don't seem endangered at all.


I think he's talking about that thread where some chinese areas are allowing hunters to shoot endangered animals for a price.
Yargh
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
August 18 2011 21:39 GMT
#49
I remember watching CBA games during my visits to China, Chinese teams really like their free throws. It seemed like most of the time spent watching games were spent watching free throws. So the disparity certainly makes sense,
Logic is Overrated
poorbeggarman
Profile Joined August 2010
139 Posts
August 18 2011 21:41 GMT
#50
On August 19 2011 06:37 Dagobert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 06:08 lithium3n wrote:
More sinophobia threads, first bear bile, then hunting of endangered animals.

Since when are Americans endangered animals? They don't seem endangered at all.


A sign of things to come? Hint:2012
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
August 18 2011 21:42 GMT
#51
Mex Carey, Georgetown's sports information director, told ESPN.com that the game was "very physical," with 57 free throws taken by Bayi to just 15 for Georgetown, and quickly spun out of control.

According to the Washington Post, coach John Thompson III pulled his team off the court with the score tied at 64 midway through the fourth quarter


57 free throws, 64 points in 4th quarter.
sounds like the chinese aren't very good free throw shooters!
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liepzig
Profile Joined June 2010
Singapore45 Posts
August 18 2011 21:43 GMT
#52
That's fucking disgusting. I'm Chinese, and I think that these people need to learn how to be good hosts. Can't tell who was to blame for starting the fight, but no matter what, as hosts you should be more gracious. Even if the other team is shitting on you or playing rough, you just gotta take it in your stride. It's a fucking friendly, who cares if you win or lose. Wankers all of them.

That said, it's had to believe that some US posters are truly unbiased when they say things like "it was definitely instigated by the Chinese team." Were you there? People fight all the time. Let's not make this into a race/nationality thing.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 21:45:50
August 18 2011 21:43 GMT
#53
lol another sinophobic thread.

So basically the background is that Georgetown was getting their asses handed to them, and they started getting real rough, and then that Chinese team retaliated? Was it worth making a China bashing thread over it? I think either team for being idiots is unacceptable, but making a thread for the purpose of expressing xenophobia is pretty lame.

That said, the video hardly shows much, so I don't understand the bias of the OP.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 21:48:46
August 18 2011 21:44 GMT
#54
First hand article for anyone that wants it:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/fight-ends-georgetown-basketball-exhibition-in-china/2011/08/18/gIQAs1zeNJ_story.html

Written by Gene Wang from the Washington Post who I understand was actually at the game.

Oh yeah, and the photo that will accompany this story for every paper in the world:
[image loading]

While the events don't necessarily look great for the US/Georgetown, this is an absolute disgrace for China. Especially considering the brawl that occurred last year (China v Brazil brawl video linked earlier by another poster). What exactly are the refs doing putting the game in that position and then wtf is security doing standing around while a brawl is occurring. I dont know if that guy in the picture works for the team but he certainly doesn't appear to be a player who might have been caught up in the heat of the moment. Not to mention the fact Chinese players were using chairs as weapons.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 21:47:27
August 18 2011 21:44 GMT
#55
On August 19 2011 06:42 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
Mex Carey, Georgetown's sports information director, told ESPN.com that the game was "very physical," with 57 free throws taken by Bayi to just 15 for Georgetown, and quickly spun out of control.

According to the Washington Post, coach John Thompson III pulled his team off the court with the score tied at 64 midway through the fourth quarter


57 free throws, 64 points in 4th quarter.
sounds like the chinese aren't very good free throw shooters!

more sounds like they aren't very good players, 49 extra free throws and the game is tied at 64 points each in the 4th
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can't wait for someone in the media to call it racism XD
AngryFarmer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States560 Posts
August 18 2011 21:45 GMT
#56
This happens all the time lolol. Watch china vs brazil in 2010. That was baaaaad. chinese players just have no manners. Even my chinese friends call chinese atheletes thuggy.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 18 2011 21:45 GMT
#57
The refferee was bribed or some dick who wanted to make his country win.

Playing rough doesn't land you a 40 foul difference. I wish i could come up with a comparison to show just how massive and utterly insane that difference is. There is only one way to get that kind of a difference, to play a Chinese team and get a ref that takes the game into his own hands.

That said, if you look at the video:

1) The Chinese players throws the first punch
2) The Chinese team rushes onto the court and gangs up on one kid


I know people on TL tend to hate the US and love everything Asian but i do hope people can atleast be so unbiased that when looking at video evidence, they can be honest about what's happening.
Wren
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States745 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 21:47:16
August 18 2011 21:46 GMT
#58
I watched the other NCAA team in China this morning: Duke vs. the Chinese Jr. national team. If officiating was as bad in the GT game as it was in the Duke game (and the box score suggests it was worse), then I can see how tempers would flair, easily.

The Big East is a rough conference, and Georgetown is a physical team that will occasionally border on something worse. This was essentially the perfect combination, with a rough American team vs. a rough army team.

I'm glad nobody got hurt, but am way more amused by this incident than surprised.

edit: the incidents started before the video does, you can't take the first moments of the video as the start of the incident.
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[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
August 18 2011 21:50 GMT
#59
From my understanding. How Chinese players and American players play basketball is very different. A friend of mine who plays basketball who is also Chinese wrote a blog on this. He talked about how the Chinese players basically took turns with the ball. Very often, they would play 1v1. One person would attack and the other defend. Same as in America for 1v1. However, if the offensive player missed a shot, he would not even try to rebound! They would simply let the defender pick it up, bring it back court and switch sides.

I'm not saying that there wasn't bias on the ref's part (there probably was), but I also bet that the American team was playing a different game than the Chinese were used to. This may have lead to frustration, because what is possibly normally considered "dirty" playing by the Chinese is totally normal for Americans.
JF dodger since 2009
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
August 18 2011 21:51 GMT
#60
On August 19 2011 06:19 Condor Hero wrote:
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On August 19 2011 06:16 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:
YEAH AMERICA GET EM

But seriously that's BS, 57 FTs to 15? You've gotta be joking me. I don't really know if you can call the OP biased; if you look at the video the Chinese players run off the bench and basically maul one player, and then chase another one to the sidelines and start beating on him. That's just thuggish and doesn't belong in the sport. Can't imagine any colleges are going to want to go play there in the future after this shit.

If this was between two NBA teams, the first thing I think of is not "holy shit, refs are being bought" I would think "holy shit one team played really rough and got a lot of fouls called..." but I guess once it's another country involved, American pride overtakes common sense right?


This would happen to any country, not just America. Don't try and make it sound like it's all "America's" fault. Sometimes you get terrible refs, and none of us have seen the game so none of us can comment on what specifically happen, but 54 free throws to 15 is pretty fucking ridiculous, but I've take it you've probably never watched/played basketball.
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