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kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 23:09:35
August 18 2011 21:03 GMT
#1
I would put this in the Sports section, but those threads seem to be ongoing threads, not news items. Mods feel free to move if needed.

The Georgetown University basketball team had a friendly with a Chinese pro team. It got ugly real fast, and it escalated to a full on brawl. I really can't believe the behavior of the Chinese team, trying to incite a brawl against college kids. They even started to hit players with chairs, and you can see multiple Chinese players ganging up on a Georgetown player. This makes the Barca - Real Madrid tussle look like childs play. Disgusting play by the Chinese team.



BEIJING — What began as a goodwill trip to China for the Georgetown men’s basketball team turned violent Thursday night, when its exhibition game against the Bayi Rockets deteriorated into a melee during which players exchanged blows, chairs were thrown and spectators tossed full water bottles as Hoyas players and coaches headed to the locker room at Olympic Sports Center Stadium.

Georgetown Coach John Thompson III pulled his players off the court with 9 minutes 32 seconds left in the game and the scored tied at 64 after a chaotic scene in which members of both teams began throwing punches and tackling one another.

Georgetown senior center Henry Sims had a chair tossed at him by an unidentified person, and freshman forward Moses Ayegba, who was wearing a brace on his sore right ankle, walked onto the court with a chair in his right hand. According to Georgetown officials, Ayegba had been struck, prompting him to grab a chair in self-defense.

It was the second time both benches emptied in physical game marred by fouls. By halftime, Bayi had 11 fouls while Georgetown had 28.

Immediately before the fighting began, Bayi forward-center Hu Ke was called for a foul against Georgetown’s Jason Clark. The senior guard clearly took exception to the hard foul and said so to Hu, triggering an exchange of shoves.

That’s when players from the Georgetown and Bayi benches ran onto the court, and bedlam ensued.

Read the rest of the story from the Washington Post

The picture attached to the article, which will be on the front page of all sports sites.

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Edit:

Updated with some Chinese netizen comments:


"Does the Bayi team think they are better at Chinese kungfu than basketball and that is why they are desperate to show it off."– JF1113

"The Bayi team have really lost face now. No matter who is right and who is wrong, you have fought the visiting team as the host ... especially while their second man in charge is in this country." –anoia

"I just don't get it that China is fighting other people all the time. And they lose the games too," –QimaDdou.

“It was really an unfair whistle. They even fought their opponents and really lost face.” –Yaogun Dahuaidan

“If the referee really gave 57 free throws to Bayi, but only 15 to Georgetown, that’s a really f**king bad game, it’s so unfair!” – Manuing

“Why are all Chinese referees like this? Cheating will never gain you respect in a game. Even if we lost the game, we still need to behave in a sportsmanlike manner. It doesn't make sense to win the game like this. –zhlzjhz

“I'm looking at the comments under on Youtube. Certainly, foreigners’ impression of China is “strengthened.” –interlakers

If they wanted to fight, then why not go to America to fight? –Paigu Ayong



Found at: http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/beijing/articles/blogs-beijing/sports-in-beijing/chinese-netizens-comment-on-infamous-basketbrawl-game/
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 18 2011 21:05 GMT
#2
america fuck yeah

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Angryhorse
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden387 Posts
August 18 2011 21:06 GMT
#3
Ohh damn.War between USA and China gogogogo!

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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 18 2011 21:07 GMT
#4
Damn thats a wild video.. I wouldn't bias is as blaming the Chinese team though, unless you can really get all facts straight. I'd say disgusting behavior by both really.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 18 2011 21:07 GMT
#5
This looks like both teams got on to it at the same time.
At what point are so you biased against the Chinese team?
It's unfortunate that the fans would throw stuff but that has nothing to do with the Chinese team.
CaptainTwig
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom532 Posts
August 18 2011 21:08 GMT
#6
I look forward to seeing what the Chinese media says about this, should be a good lol.
lithium3n
Profile Joined May 2011
United States74 Posts
August 18 2011 21:08 GMT
#7
More sinophobia threads, first bear bile, then hunting of endangered animals.
simansh
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
257 Posts
August 18 2011 21:09 GMT
#8
Well they pretty much own your country so better get used to it ^^

Seriously though this thread seems so biased.
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RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
August 18 2011 21:09 GMT
#9
On August 19 2011 06:06 Angryhorse wrote:
Ohh damn.War between USA and China gogogogo!

What?
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
August 18 2011 21:10 GMT
#10
On August 19 2011 06:05 renaissanceMAN wrote:
america fuck yeah


Lovely response.

Anyways - I'd like to know where the tension came from anyways.. it's odd to me that a professional team would be involved in such a brawl with a college team.
Yargh
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
August 18 2011 21:10 GMT
#11
On August 19 2011 06:07 Condor Hero wrote:
This looks like both teams got on to it at the same time.
At what point are so you biased against the Chinese team?
It's unfortunate that the fans would throw stuff but that has nothing to do with the Chinese team.


This is not biased, there were people at the game who were commenting the Chinese team was pretty much hacking Georgetown every possession. Also, you can see the free throw disparity, overwhelmingly in favor of the Chinese team. How can that be possible in a competitive game? Duke played another Chinese team earlier, same issue with the foul disparity, it's just Duke is not the type of team that would retaliate with hard contact. So when Georgetown also started playing rough, that's when the fight broke out.
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 18 2011 21:10 GMT
#12
Can't really tell who started it, but I do see a bunch of the Chinese players ganging up on like 1 Georgetown player.

Either way, it's awful.
DonnaSmith
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom11 Posts
August 18 2011 21:10 GMT
#13
On August 19 2011 06:07 Condor Hero wrote:
This looks like both teams got on to it at the same time.
At what point are so you biased against the Chinese team?
It's unfortunate that the fans would throw stuff but that has nothing to do with the Chinese team.


Wow that was lucky, look guys we actually have an eye witness here on teamliquid.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 18 2011 21:11 GMT
#14
How can you blame the Chinese players, OP? You weren't even there. According to the article the Chinese team took 4 times as many free throws which means either the refs were crooked or the Georgetown players were the ones playing rough
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
August 18 2011 21:12 GMT
#15
On August 19 2011 06:11 BlackJack wrote:
How can you blame the Chinese players, OP? You weren't even there. According to the article the Chinese team took 4 times as many free throws which means either the refs were crooked or the Georgetown players were the ones playing rough


Albeit I'm chinese myself, I would not hesitate to say the bolded part is probably true
Yargh
Tsuycc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada269 Posts
August 18 2011 21:13 GMT
#16
to me it just seemed that one heated argument turned into a fight (cant say who started the fight.... or threw the first punch) and then it was just backing each others player up....

hope we get details on this..
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 21:15:04
August 18 2011 21:13 GMT
#17
On August 19 2011 06:10 kakaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 06:07 Condor Hero wrote:
This looks like both teams got on to it at the same time.
At what point are so you biased against the Chinese team?
It's unfortunate that the fans would throw stuff but that has nothing to do with the Chinese team.


This is not biased, there were people at the game who were commenting the Chinese team was pretty much hacking Georgetown every possession. Also, you can see the free throw disparity, overwhelmingly in favor of the Chinese team. How can that be possible in a competitive game? Duke played another Chinese team earlier, same issue with the foul disparity, it's just Duke is not the type of team that would retaliate with hard contact. So when Georgetown also started playing rough, that's when the fight broke out.


I can't determine what point you're trying to make about the free throw disparity. The chinese team is the one that took 57 free throws which means they were the ones getting fouled a ton.

edit: misread
Sipher
Profile Joined January 2011
United States333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 21:18:17
August 18 2011 21:15 GMT
#18
Oh wow, against a Big East team. I always enjoy it when Georgetown comes to play at my university (USF), they don't seem like bad people. Kinda sad to see Pros beat up on a college kid like that. I dunno if it can be attributed to shit talking since most Chinese can't really speak English very well. But I may be incorrect in that statement. Nevertheless, it was a sad video to see.

Also want to say...Those fans in the crowd should be ashamed of themselves. Along with the security that was there.
SpiffD
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1264 Posts
August 18 2011 21:15 GMT
#19
They could have learned a few words on each other's languages to throw each other off, which then resulted in the brawl (like the Zidane incident).
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Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 18 2011 21:16 GMT
#20
On August 19 2011 06:10 kakaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 06:07 Condor Hero wrote:
This looks like both teams got on to it at the same time.
At what point are so you biased against the Chinese team?
It's unfortunate that the fans would throw stuff but that has nothing to do with the Chinese team.


This is not biased, there were people at the game who were commenting the Chinese team was pretty much hacking Georgetown every possession. Also, you can see the free throw disparity, overwhelmingly in favor of the Chinese team. How can that be possible in a competitive game? Duke played another Chinese team earlier, same issue with the foul disparity, it's just Duke is not the type of team that would retaliate with hard contact. So when Georgetown also started playing rough, that's when the fight broke out.

Do those people happen to be American?
Not saying they're lying but it's easy to be biased especially when nationality is involved.

Also you're talking about the game.
I'm talking about the fight, you obviously place the blame squarely on the Chinese team.
From that video, how can you even tell who started the fight?
Even if the game is rough, that's no excuse to start a fight.

Free throws is certainly correlation with bias in referees but it's not proof.
I have a hard time believing that the Chinese team would agree to host American college teams just to shit on it.

In my mind a far more likely scenario would be that the game got rough (possibly caused by some cultural differences) then the public and second hand viewers gets inflamed by the accounts of the first hand viewers/commentators (who are very possibly biased).
Both teams are wrong and since it's in China obviously you see more Chinese people acting like idiots (think Pacers/Pistons brawl).
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