On August 19 2011 23:20 Sfydjklm wrote: I can't help but think that the Chinese would be much less willing to engage in a fight had the American team been white.
Rofl, kid, you ever watch Chinese college basketball? Almost every team has a token black guy on the team, it's like the chinese schools go out of their way to recruit random people of African descent to play on their basketball teams because the NBA makes it seem like black people are the best at basketball.
On August 19 2011 06:05 renaissanceMAN wrote: america fuck yeah
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On August 19 2011 06:06 Angryhorse wrote: Ohh damn.War between USA and China gogogogo!
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Well this thread certainly had a rocky start... >_>
As for the behavior from the Chinese players, it's extremely rude and unprofessional. They seriously need to man up and accept losses. Really? Do pros absolutely have to beat up a college kid? Seems like they've got some huge ego/anger issues...
On August 19 2011 06:11 BlackJack wrote: How can you blame the Chinese players, OP? You weren't even there. According to the article the Chinese team took 4 times as many free throws which means either the refs were crooked or the Georgetown players were the ones playing rough
You've never been to china I take it. It's obvious that the refs were crooked.
of course not all fouls are hard fouls, and none even need to be. don't just look at the foul tally and assume that the US players were instigating this.
On August 19 2011 08:19 HikariPrime wrote: Okay Ive been around awhile, and ive been noticing a trend against china? Like seriously wtf, Why do these Americans post stuff about other countries to bash them, just because their own country is failing hardcore. Seems to me all of the American team was Black. Ive been around them for awhile considering public school in America is horrible. They really are the more aggressive type to start this imho.
P.S Im "American" lol
Changed your spoiler to BOLD to highlight your racist shit.
How is pointing out what is true racist? The team was all black people...the fact he thinks they're aggressive is his opinion, whether it's right or wrong or even justified, who are we to judge?
It's not racist to not the team are black , although you would have to call into question why someone is noting that. What is racist however is that he attributes traits of aggressiveness with all black people with no reason to believe it. He assumes that the american players instigated the fight not because of any evidence presented to him but merely because their skin is black.
That is why he is called a racist and a bigot.
Well in his personal experience he says the majority of black people he's encountered have been more aggressive. Probably something to do with the fact that they're high school kids, not black though.
can't help but think that the Chinese would be much less willing to engage in a fight had the American team been white.
What makes you say that? From my experience playing Aussies Rules (best sport in the world, just quietly) if there's a fight about to happen I don't give a shit if the player is aboriginal, asian, white or anything else. They're getting a fist to the face regardless haha
He's making an assumption of preferential treatment due to race, ie saying that they have a passive look when engaging in white people and a more hostile towards colored. Normally i would be quick to dismiss but when you read news stories like this http://www.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/06/29/china.rent.white.people/index.html you tend to think other wise, it's poor to generalize but either you do generalize in fear of being wrong or you don't but frankly the human mind works by grouping things so grouping people and generalizing is human nature, doesn't mean it's right just means it's understandable
I highly doubt race played a factor in this. The kids in China who are interested in or play basketball watch NBA games and root for NBA teams and players as much as fans here do.
Completely agree with this.
The point is, a sport is a sport. When you're playing it you don't care what colour the other people on the fields skin is, just the colour of their uniform.
From what I've seen, most Chinese netizens approve of Bayi's thuggery.
Btw going by the pictures, the Bayi players looks very young. Possibly around the same age as the george town guys so please don't go about saying adults beat up a bunch of kids.
our history is kinda the reason why more people from African descent are stronger in the us. i doubt it has anything to do with the color of skin though or else everyone from africa would be owning in basketball.
After watching a working video, I'm not too disappointed overall. The brawl itself isn't something you ever want to see in good sport (it does make for good entertainment though), but it was a bit shorter than what I had anticipated after reading the OP. It also seemed pretty contained, and the teams were able to detach themselves easily enough.
Good for the majority of the spectators too - I thought they would be clamouring down the stairs to jump in, but they stayed pretty calm (or shocked) throughout.
On August 20 2011 05:43 MiNiMuM wrote: anyone miss the fact that it was tied 64 -64, but bayi had 57 freethrows? really? Even if you assume .7 ft percentage that means they only had 10 or 12 baskets after 3+ quarters.
keep in mind this is team has military ties - and the military in china is extremely nationalistic and anti american. not defending georgetown or anythin, but you can bet that the refs and security could have prevented this or at least tried to stop it. pro team at home in China baiting kids that they cant beat fairly at basketball. this is why no one respects China domestic pro leagues, the soccer is all fixed and the basketball is all fights.
i lived in China before and I can say that the basketball there is pretty scrappy and physical. What one team considered cheap might have been considered just hard play. In most pro leagues this situation gets diffused by referees. But in China getting a fair ref is not common, cant tell you how many bs refs we got when we played soccer who would call ridiculous offsides and penalties
Seeing that Bayi players are all soliders, I don't think the security want to mess with them.
The security there are just for crowd control. They don't get involved in on court fighting, why would you when your pay is shit and everyone in the fight is twice your size lol.
On August 21 2011 12:32 garlicface wrote: After watching a working video, I'm not too disappointed overall. The brawl itself isn't something you ever want to see in good sport (it does make for good entertainment though), but it was a bit shorter than what I had anticipated after reading the OP. It also seemed pretty contained, and the teams were able to detach themselves easily enough.
Good for the majority of the spectators too - I thought they would be clamouring down the stairs to jump in, but they stayed pretty calm (or shocked) throughout.
Except for when they started throwing water bottles at Georgetown.
To the credit of both teams, not everyone was being retarded. More than half of the players were just trying to break it up, definitely an embarrassing moment for everyone involved...
Ofc, it takes both sides for the brawl to happen. But the Chinese should be ashamed of doing this. It just go against the most basic Chinese teaching which are respected through out China and East Asia. You have to pay respect to your guest, thats what its about for thousand of years in China but these youngsters just seems to forget all that.
Also, China is China, a few days after the brawl happens, all of the video of it on Youku(the China Youtube) has been taken down. Most threads on many chinese forums that discuss the incident has been deleted as well. Well, China stays classy once again.
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