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On March 07 2012 12:35 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Newt holds votes/supporters which are evangelical anti-Romney votes. Between Romney, Paul, and Santorum who do you think they will go towards? Santorum.
Also OT but Chuck Todd is just boring.
Well its hard to be exciting when you are basically talking about the details of vote counting. Also even if Santorum would hypethetically get 80% of of Gingriches votes he would undoubtedly lose a few counties that would otherwise go anti Romney. The two secrets of caucauses is that the overall winner is largely irrelevent and its the delagte distribution that matters. The other secret is that a lot of those selected delagates can vote for whoever they want to.
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according to nytimes santorum leading in ohio by 12k
does santorum have a chance at nomination if he wins?
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On March 07 2012 12:40 shawster wrote:
according to nytimes santorum leading in ohio by 12k
does santorum have a chance at nomination if he wins?
if he wins ohio does he have a chance at nomination? no not at all. there is no one who can get the nomination until late april
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On March 07 2012 12:40 shawster wrote:
according to nytimes santorum leading in ohio by 12k
does santorum have a chance at nomination if he wins?
I dont think the exact results matter to much for anything other than a press release. I might be wrong but I remember people talking about Ohio as a caucus state and that from teh looks of the map they will split the delagates evenly either way.
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Romney has closed the gap to within 7,000 in Ohio.
way too early to mean anything but it's interesting: in Idaho, Paul just passed Santorum for 2nd
edit: within 2,000 now. it's getting close
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On March 07 2012 12:40 shawster wrote:
according to nytimes santorum leading in ohio by 12k
does santorum have a chance at nomination if he wins?
Santorum's wins tonight have been close. Romney's have ranged from comfortable to lopsided. We'll see how the districts fall, but my bet is that Romney takes more total delegates than Santorum tonight regardless of who wins Ohio. The Virginia ballot situation certainly helps him with that.
Eventually, Santorum will need to start catching up in delegates.
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On March 07 2012 12:45 Signet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 12:40 shawster wrote:
according to nytimes santorum leading in ohio by 12k
does santorum have a chance at nomination if he wins? Santorum's wins tonight have been close. Romney's have ranged from comfortable to lopsided. We'll see how the districts fall, but my bet is that Romney takes more total delegates than Santorum tonight regardless of who wins Ohio. The Virginia ballot situation certainly helps him with that. Eventually, Santorum will need to start catching up in delegates.
He is actually having a pretty good map going forward to get delagates. Also he donest need to beat Romney on delagates he just needs to keep him under 50% of them.
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Romney might be able to eek out a win but just barely.
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NBC will not be calling Ohio tonight.
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Don't forget that Paul could very easily throw in with Romney for a cabinet position. (Paul would never be VP imo), and even if he only ends up with 100 or so delegates, that could be huge if Romney and Santorum are neck and neck.
Of course, I'd love to see it go down to the wire. That's always fun.
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If Paul did that he would be the biggest hypocrite.
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Idaho goes to Romney.
Paul still in 2nd.
friggin Alaska hasn't even closed yet. but those guys are crazy anyway
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Oh wow, america. So about a quarter counted is that correct?
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On March 07 2012 12:43 sc2superfan101 wrote:
way too early to mean anything but it's interesting: in Idaho, Paul just passed Santorum for 2nd
By the looks of it, second doesn't mean much in that race.
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Romney just pulled ahead of Santorum in Ohio by 2,000
it's more of a psychological victory right now, but that could be killer to Santorum if he can't win.
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On March 07 2012 12:56 1Eris1 wrote:
Don't forget that Paul could very easily throw in with Romney for a cabinet position. (Paul would never be VP imo), and even if he only ends up with 100 or so delegates, that could be huge if Romney and Santorum are neck and neck.
Of course, I'd love to see it go down to the wire. That's always fun.
Can candidates pledge their delegates to other candidates when they drop out? if so, do you think gingrich would support santorum? That seems like it could have a big impact..
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Paul got 40% in VA. I'm kind of impressed.
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On March 07 2012 13:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
Paul got 40% in VA. I'm kind of impressed.
He got it because due to the stupid rules in VA only Paul and Romney were on ballot.
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On March 07 2012 13:09 itkovian wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 12:56 1Eris1 wrote:
Don't forget that Paul could very easily throw in with Romney for a cabinet position. (Paul would never be VP imo), and even if he only ends up with 100 or so delegates, that could be huge if Romney and Santorum are neck and neck.
Of course, I'd love to see it go down to the wire. That's always fun. Can candidates pledge their delegates to other candidates when they drop out? if so, do you think gingrich would support santorum? That seems like it could have a big impact..
You can't actually "pledge" your delegates to anyone, because you don't actually control them. Technically, all of Romney's delegates could vote for Santorum if they really wanted to. (Obviously it would look bad for them, but it's happened before.) Instead you usually endorse the other candidate an beseech your delegates to do the same. (And they usually do.)
On March 07 2012 12:57 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
If Paul did that he would be the biggest hypocrite.
Perhaps, but it's not like he's got that much too lose. (No one's going to shit on Rand if he endorses another candidate) This is his last hoorah after all, and I could definetely see him as Romney's Secretary of the Treasury. (State might be a stretch.)
Then again, I just watched the Ides of March, so that could be clouding my judgement.
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On March 07 2012 13:13 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 13:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
Paul got 40% in VA. I'm kind of impressed. He got it because due to the stupid rules in VA only Paul and Romney were on ballot.
More like the others were too incompetent to get on the ballot... seriously, if you're running a campaign for fucking president, you better be more organized than that.
Still, I'm surprised people went out and voted for Paul instead of staying home. Shows that people either really don't like Romney, or Paul was the second choice for a lot of Santorum or Gingrich voters.
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