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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
January 27 2012 03:05 GMT
#7361
On January 27 2012 11:57 frogrubdown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 11:41 Derez wrote:
There's no american identity either. It was invented somewhere in 1776.


Whereas the rest of the world's nations have always existed.


Haha, when that was posted I couldn't help but laugh... and then report for trying to be sly with their country bashing.

Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
0mar
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
January 27 2012 03:07 GMT
#7362
Man, Castro said it best when he called the Republican contest a "carnival of idiocy".
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 03:10:50
January 27 2012 03:08 GMT
#7363
On January 27 2012 12:05 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 11:57 frogrubdown wrote:
On January 27 2012 11:41 Derez wrote:
There's no american identity either. It was invented somewhere in 1776.


Whereas the rest of the world's nations have always existed.


Haha, when that was posted I couldn't help but laugh... and then report for trying to be sly with their country bashing.



I was actually commenting on the idiocy of Gingrich claiming that certain identities are 'invented' and irrelevant because of it. All identities are invented/constructed socially. Not US bashing.

Think Romney has Florida in the bag now. He had already overtaken the polls again, and he did okish.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
January 27 2012 03:26 GMT
#7364
On January 27 2012 12:08 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 12:05 Risen wrote:
On January 27 2012 11:57 frogrubdown wrote:
On January 27 2012 11:41 Derez wrote:
There's no american identity either. It was invented somewhere in 1776.


Whereas the rest of the world's nations have always existed.


Haha, when that was posted I couldn't help but laugh... and then report for trying to be sly with their country bashing.



I was actually commenting on the idiocy of Gingrich claiming that certain identities are 'invented' and irrelevant because of it. All identities are invented/constructed socially. Not US bashing.

Think Romney has Florida in the bag now. He had already overtaken the polls again, and he did okish.


Makes much more sense in context now. Next time throw a "Well Gingrich, There's no american identity either. It was invented somewhere in 1776."

Makes sense now, though. Thanks for explaining.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 27 2012 03:27 GMT
#7365
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
January 27 2012 03:28 GMT
#7366
Space colony in moon?
Wow Newts got balls! lmao
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 27 2012 03:41 GMT
#7367
My god, after another watching debate like that...

Like I can understand not liking Obama, but in hell how does Gingrich have support??

Even Reagan didn't like the guy...
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 04:08:15
January 27 2012 03:57 GMT
#7368
On January 27 2012 12:41 1Eris1 wrote:
My god, after another watching debate like that...

Like I can understand not liking Obama, but in hell how does Gingrich have support??

Even Reagan didn't like the guy...


Some people like that Newt is succinct. If you notice, he will always break down his responses into well-defined pieces.

For example, he'll say something like: "There are two fundamental issues at hand here. (1) blah blah blah (2) blah blah blah"

This is usually followed by a single example of him demonstrating previous experience with the aforementioned issues and a single example of why Romney failed to address these issues in the past.

Romney has a similar approach to his responses, but it appears as though he's thinking about his response while saying it, which could be interpreted by some as being less confident in his answers.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 27 2012 03:58 GMT
#7369
On January 27 2012 12:57 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 12:41 1Eris1 wrote:
My god, after another watching debate like that...

Like I can understand not liking Obama, but in hell how does Gingrich have support??

Even Reagan didn't like the guy...


Some people like that Newt's succinct. If you notice, he will always break down his responses into well-defined pieces.

For example, he'll say something like: "There are two fundamental issues at hand here. (1) blah blah blah (2) blah blah blah"

This is usually followed by a single example of him demonstrating previous experience with the aforementioned issues and a single example of why Romney failed to address these issues in the past.

Romney has a similar approach to his responses, but it appears as though he's thinking about his response while saying it, which could be interpreted as him being not as confident as Newt in his own responses.



Breaking down his statements doesn't really matter if they're ridiculous ones to begin with
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 04:08:45
January 27 2012 04:03 GMT
#7370
Sure it does. Not everybody thinks that Newt's resolutions are as ridiculous as you or I believe them to be.

And as much as I hate to admit that delivery plays a significant role in people's decision making, it certainly does.

It's precisely why I wish that Romney's vocal chords were somehow medically implanted into Dr. Paul.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 04:16:59
January 27 2012 04:14 GMT
#7371
On January 27 2012 13:03 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Sure it does. Not everybody thinks that Newt's resolutions are as ridiculous as you or I believe them to be.

And as much as I hate to admit that delivery plays a significant role in people's decision making, it certainly does.

It's precisely why I wish that Romney's vocal chords were somehow medically implanted into Dr. Paul.



Ehh, as he goes on (and deeper into "out there stuff") I'm honestly just struggling to understand how his support is that high. Even if Romney is one of the biggest flip-flopping candidates I've ever seen, his proposals at least aren't that, you know.+ Show Spoiler +
I don't want to say retarded



Oh and I know, unfortuneately I just overesitimate the average American's perception a lot. (Same for the liberals as well). It's freaking ridiculous. Someone can make the most retarded of claims, but as long as they bash X, or mention Y it comes off as good to a lot of people.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 27 2012 04:19 GMT
#7372
I support the State of Gingrich on the moon!
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 04:28:12
January 27 2012 04:23 GMT
#7373
Lets put Newt Gingich in the White House and get a 51st state on the moon.
YEAH!!!!!
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
January 27 2012 04:25 GMT
#7374
On January 27 2012 12:07 0mar wrote:
Man, Castro said it best when he called the Republican contest a "carnival of idiocy".

But ohoho, this shows that Castro follows the Republican primaries! Who's the idiot now?
:)
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 27 2012 04:26 GMT
#7375
On January 27 2012 11:18 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 11:17 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
It seriously seems like no one is trying to attack Ron Paul anymore, in fact they seem to be praising him more often than not now lol. It's like they're afraid of his voters ahaha

They're afraid they can't really beat him on the facts and he's also incredibly consistent so you can't call him out for flip flopping either. Paul has a pretty good mind for history and always keeps hammering home the same points.


He needs to run as an independent, imo. Did his '88 campaign scar him or something.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
January 27 2012 04:26 GMT
#7376
Democracy on the moon!!! :p
Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 04:28:49
January 27 2012 04:27 GMT
#7377
On January 27 2012 13:14 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 13:03 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Sure it does. Not everybody thinks that Newt's resolutions are as ridiculous as you or I believe them to be.

And as much as I hate to admit that delivery plays a significant role in people's decision making, it certainly does.

It's precisely why I wish that Romney's vocal chords were somehow medically implanted into Dr. Paul.



Ehh, as he goes on (and deeper into "out there stuff") I'm honestly just struggling to understand how his support is that high. Even if Romney is one of the biggest flip-flopping candidates I've ever seen, his proposals at least aren't that, you know.+ Show Spoiler +
I don't want to say retarded



Oh and I know, unfortuneately I just overesitimate the average American's perception a lot. (Same for the liberals as well). It's freaking ridiculous. Someone can make the most retarded of claims, but as long as they bash X, or mention Y it comes off as good to a lot of people.


This is true, after watching every debate over the last few months (except the one tonight have to watch it later), I have to say my faith in American politics (what little I had) has been mostly flushed down the toilet. There are numerous times when candidates who I don't support at all say something intelligent and reasonable (a lota stuff hunstman said) and there is dead silence, then someone like Newt says something so utterly ridiculous that's its almost comical and he gets wild applause. To me it seems these debates are less about the issues and more about bashing the front runner, even the candidates gang up on whoever the front runner is at the time.

I guess the final point is people usually vote with their hearts and not their heads, they vote for who they like as a person. Obama will get a lot of votes again because, guess what? people like him as a person and who can blame them. No one really likes Mitt Romney as a person (maybe cuz they cant relate?) which is why hes had all these problems with conservatives.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 27 2012 04:34 GMT
#7378
On January 27 2012 13:27 Raambo11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 13:14 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 27 2012 13:03 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Sure it does. Not everybody thinks that Newt's resolutions are as ridiculous as you or I believe them to be.

And as much as I hate to admit that delivery plays a significant role in people's decision making, it certainly does.

It's precisely why I wish that Romney's vocal chords were somehow medically implanted into Dr. Paul.



Ehh, as he goes on (and deeper into "out there stuff") I'm honestly just struggling to understand how his support is that high. Even if Romney is one of the biggest flip-flopping candidates I've ever seen, his proposals at least aren't that, you know.+ Show Spoiler +
I don't want to say retarded



Oh and I know, unfortuneately I just overesitimate the average American's perception a lot. (Same for the liberals as well). It's freaking ridiculous. Someone can make the most retarded of claims, but as long as they bash X, or mention Y it comes off as good to a lot of people.


This is true, after watching every debate over the last few months (except the one tonight have to watch it later), I have to say my faith in American politics (what little I had) has been mostly flushed down the toilet. There are numerous times when candidates who I don't support at all say something intelligent and reasonable (a lota stuff hunstman said) and there is dead silence, then someone like Newt says something so utterly ridiculous that's its almost comical and he gets wild applause. To me it seems these debates are less about the issues and more about bashing the front runner, even the candidates gang up on whoever the front runner is at the time.

I guess the final point is people usually vote with their hearts and not their heads, they vote for who they like as a person. Obama will get a lot of votes again because, guess what? people like him as a person and who can blame them. No one really likes Mitt Romney as a person (maybe cuz they cant relate?) which is why hes had all these problems with conservatives.


Mmmm definetely. I just can't stand how stuck people are on some of their beliefs.

I was born in one of the Liberalist (is that a word?) cities in the US, but lately I've been finding myself drifting towards several major Conservative concepts...But then when I talk to my parents they use the word Republican as an insult.
And then of course on the opposite side of the spectrum...well some of these debates are enough.

Blah. I'll just continue my secret plan of becoming a trillionaire and then buying up several failing nation's debts and starting by own country.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 27 2012 04:38 GMT
#7379
On January 27 2012 13:34 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 13:27 Raambo11 wrote:
On January 27 2012 13:14 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 27 2012 13:03 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Sure it does. Not everybody thinks that Newt's resolutions are as ridiculous as you or I believe them to be.

And as much as I hate to admit that delivery plays a significant role in people's decision making, it certainly does.

It's precisely why I wish that Romney's vocal chords were somehow medically implanted into Dr. Paul.



Ehh, as he goes on (and deeper into "out there stuff") I'm honestly just struggling to understand how his support is that high. Even if Romney is one of the biggest flip-flopping candidates I've ever seen, his proposals at least aren't that, you know.+ Show Spoiler +
I don't want to say retarded



Oh and I know, unfortuneately I just overesitimate the average American's perception a lot. (Same for the liberals as well). It's freaking ridiculous. Someone can make the most retarded of claims, but as long as they bash X, or mention Y it comes off as good to a lot of people.


This is true, after watching every debate over the last few months (except the one tonight have to watch it later), I have to say my faith in American politics (what little I had) has been mostly flushed down the toilet. There are numerous times when candidates who I don't support at all say something intelligent and reasonable (a lota stuff hunstman said) and there is dead silence, then someone like Newt says something so utterly ridiculous that's its almost comical and he gets wild applause. To me it seems these debates are less about the issues and more about bashing the front runner, even the candidates gang up on whoever the front runner is at the time.

I guess the final point is people usually vote with their hearts and not their heads, they vote for who they like as a person. Obama will get a lot of votes again because, guess what? people like him as a person and who can blame them. No one really likes Mitt Romney as a person (maybe cuz they cant relate?) which is why hes had all these problems with conservatives.


Mmmm definetely. I just can't stand how stuck people are on some of their beliefs.

I was born in one of the Liberalist (is that a word?) cities in the US, but lately I've been finding myself drifting towards several major Conservative concepts...But then when I talk to my parents they use the word Republican as an insult.
And then of course on the opposite side of the spectrum...well some of these debates are enough.

Blah. I'll just continue my secret plan of becoming a trillionaire and then buying up several failing nation's debts and starting by own country.


Watching the debates I think your parents' opinions are well-deserved.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
January 27 2012 04:40 GMT
#7380
On January 27 2012 13:38 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 13:34 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 27 2012 13:27 Raambo11 wrote:
On January 27 2012 13:14 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 27 2012 13:03 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Sure it does. Not everybody thinks that Newt's resolutions are as ridiculous as you or I believe them to be.

And as much as I hate to admit that delivery plays a significant role in people's decision making, it certainly does.

It's precisely why I wish that Romney's vocal chords were somehow medically implanted into Dr. Paul.



Ehh, as he goes on (and deeper into "out there stuff") I'm honestly just struggling to understand how his support is that high. Even if Romney is one of the biggest flip-flopping candidates I've ever seen, his proposals at least aren't that, you know.+ Show Spoiler +
I don't want to say retarded



Oh and I know, unfortuneately I just overesitimate the average American's perception a lot. (Same for the liberals as well). It's freaking ridiculous. Someone can make the most retarded of claims, but as long as they bash X, or mention Y it comes off as good to a lot of people.


This is true, after watching every debate over the last few months (except the one tonight have to watch it later), I have to say my faith in American politics (what little I had) has been mostly flushed down the toilet. There are numerous times when candidates who I don't support at all say something intelligent and reasonable (a lota stuff hunstman said) and there is dead silence, then someone like Newt says something so utterly ridiculous that's its almost comical and he gets wild applause. To me it seems these debates are less about the issues and more about bashing the front runner, even the candidates gang up on whoever the front runner is at the time.

I guess the final point is people usually vote with their hearts and not their heads, they vote for who they like as a person. Obama will get a lot of votes again because, guess what? people like him as a person and who can blame them. No one really likes Mitt Romney as a person (maybe cuz they cant relate?) which is why hes had all these problems with conservatives.


Mmmm definetely. I just can't stand how stuck people are on some of their beliefs.

I was born in one of the Liberalist (is that a word?) cities in the US, but lately I've been finding myself drifting towards several major Conservative concepts...But then when I talk to my parents they use the word Republican as an insult.
And then of course on the opposite side of the spectrum...well some of these debates are enough.

Blah. I'll just continue my secret plan of becoming a trillionaire and then buying up several failing nation's debts and starting by own country.


Watching the debates I think your parents' opinions are well-deserved.


:S

No need to beat a man when he's down
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