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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 16 2015 15:36 GMT
#6201
I have a 1993 Camry with some problems, the exhaust is completely fucked and needs replacing, the shop estimated $700 because it's two big parts of the assembly that are cracked and cannot be patched. The brakes are also messed up, the left side doesn't seem to work (when I braked, the car would pull right and brake slowly). It was super dangerous and I didn't want to drive it on icy roads in the winter. I'm expecting about $1000+ in repairs on a car I bought for $2000 about 6 years ago. To make it worse, the car sat in my driveway all winter, they say you have to drive old cars or problem accumulate. Now we need to move the car, so we're in the process of recharging a battery which may not be able to take a charge (not a big problem, but still).

I want to dump the car. I don't want to spend $1000+ on a car that I don't think is worth even that, but people are telling me it's a great car, Toyota Camry's are tanks and they're great, it only has 130,000 km, plus the tires are brand new (and I don't have the tools to take them off the wheels) and they have less than 20km on them, plus the inside of the car is super clean for a car that age.

I've even been told "you can easily sell that for like $2000" as is, which is fucking insanity as far as I can tell. So I don't know what to do with it.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11834 Posts
July 16 2015 15:41 GMT
#6202
I have no idea about cars, but here is my advice anyways:

Sell it to the people who tell you to keep it. If someone says "You can easily sell that for 2k as is, just tell him "1500 and its yours".

Then use that money to buy a non-broken car. 1000$ for repairs of a car that cost you 2k 6 years ago is silly. Especially considering that that will not mean that nothing else breaks for 6 more years. I'd guess that if stuff starts breaking, it doesn't stop, so you will have fun with lots more bills in the future.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 16 2015 15:50 GMT
#6203
I've no knowledge of unimported US cars, but yeah rule of thumb is not to repair a car if the cost of the repair is more than 50% of its value with the repairs.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 16 2015 16:09 GMT
#6204
Yeah, it's annoying because people are acting like I'm an asshole for wanting to scrap it or to sell it for a few hundreds. And I'm pretty sure if I put it up on a sales website for $2000 or even $1500 all I'll get is a bunch of messages indicating that I'm retarded for wanting to sell an undrivable 22 year car for anything more than the $300-500 I expect it to be worth.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
July 16 2015 18:35 GMT
#6205
On July 17 2015 01:09 Djzapz wrote:
Yeah, it's annoying because people are acting like I'm an asshole for wanting to scrap it or to sell it for a few hundreds. And I'm pretty sure if I put it up on a sales website for $2000 or even $1500 all I'll get is a bunch of messages indicating that I'm retarded for wanting to sell an undrivable 22 year car for anything more than the $300-500 I expect it to be worth.

My experience is probably different but I worked with a guy who's brother scraps cars and got my GMC safari van scrapped for $300 cash. The transmission was completely rekted and it was undrivable.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18290 Posts
July 16 2015 18:39 GMT
#6206
On July 17 2015 01:09 Djzapz wrote:
Yeah, it's annoying because people are acting like I'm an asshole for wanting to scrap it or to sell it for a few hundreds. And I'm pretty sure if I put it up on a sales website for $2000 or even $1500 all I'll get is a bunch of messages indicating that I'm retarded for wanting to sell an undrivable 22 year car for anything more than the $300-500 I expect it to be worth.

Honestly, just negotiate with a salvage yard. New tyres alone should mean they are willing to tow it away and give you a decent price for it. What a decent price is? I have no clue, I'll let US people answer that one.

Either that, or follow the above advice: sell it to whoever is telling you that you're mad for anywhere between 1k and 1.5k and tell them it is now their problem.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 16 2015 18:45 GMT
#6207
On July 17 2015 03:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 01:09 Djzapz wrote:
Yeah, it's annoying because people are acting like I'm an asshole for wanting to scrap it or to sell it for a few hundreds. And I'm pretty sure if I put it up on a sales website for $2000 or even $1500 all I'll get is a bunch of messages indicating that I'm retarded for wanting to sell an undrivable 22 year car for anything more than the $300-500 I expect it to be worth.

My experience is probably different but I worked with a guy who's brother scraps cars and got my GMC safari van scrapped for $300 cash. The transmission was completely rekted and it was undrivable.

Yeah that's probably what's going to end up happening.

On July 17 2015 03:39 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 01:09 Djzapz wrote:
Yeah, it's annoying because people are acting like I'm an asshole for wanting to scrap it or to sell it for a few hundreds. And I'm pretty sure if I put it up on a sales website for $2000 or even $1500 all I'll get is a bunch of messages indicating that I'm retarded for wanting to sell an undrivable 22 year car for anything more than the $300-500 I expect it to be worth.

Honestly, just negotiate with a salvage yard. New tyres alone should mean they are willing to tow it away and give you a decent price for it. What a decent price is? I have no clue, I'll let US people answer that one.

Either that, or follow the above advice: sell it to whoever is telling you that you're mad for anywhere between 1k and 1.5k and tell them it is now their problem.

I sometimes get the feeling that people think too highly of themselves and they feel like they're better at negotiating shit than they really are, and so they feel like they can get an outrageous price out of their stuff. It's also why some people think always run late to everything, they think that they drive fast or something and that it'll take them 15 minutes to get somewhere but it takes them 25. But they know deep down that they can't. He won't take the car off my hands for 1.5k, not even 1k, I offered, trust me. He's like nope can't be bothered right now but you'll find someone on a classifieds website of course!
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
July 16 2015 19:44 GMT
#6208
Can you find a solution, like asking a friend that knows about cars, to repair it by yourself ? Old cars like these are real jewels because they have no electronics and all and can be put back in shape for a few bucks if you know how to play with them. Sure if you go to a professionnal, it will cost you a ton, but you can find the piece in an old garage or a discharge and then try to repair it yourself.
I have an old twingo, and altho I don't know anything about it, I have a friend that repaired it for me a few time for less than 100 € for the pieces (and I gave him 40 € each time as a way of thanking him).
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 16 2015 20:30 GMT
#6209
Unfortunately I checked and the exhaust happens to be like about $600 just for the pieces. From checking online, I might be able to install it myself, though I'd rather not do that... As for the brakes, maybe - I don't even know what the problem is, perhaps one caliper or something. Either way, the exhaust is expensive.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
July 16 2015 20:34 GMT
#6210
On July 17 2015 05:30 Djzapz wrote:
Unfortunately I checked and the exhaust happens to be like about $600 just for the pieces. From checking online, I might be able to install it myself, though I'd rather not do that... As for the brakes, maybe - I don't even know what the problem is, perhaps one caliper or something. Either way, the exhaust is expensive.


Source the parts from a scrap yard maybe?
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18290 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-16 20:45:02
July 16 2015 20:44 GMT
#6211
Double.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18290 Posts
July 16 2015 20:44 GMT
#6212
On July 17 2015 05:30 Djzapz wrote:
Unfortunately I checked and the exhaust happens to be like about $600 just for the pieces. From checking online, I might be able to install it myself, though I'd rather not do that... As for the brakes, maybe - I don't even know what the problem is, perhaps one caliper or something. Either way, the exhaust is expensive.

600 USD for an exhaust pipe? That seems really excessive (unless your catalyser is also fucked). Was this from the official Toyota parts? Or did you try unofficial parts too. In the end, the exhaust is just a piece of steel pipe, after all.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
July 16 2015 21:31 GMT
#6213
On July 17 2015 05:44 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2015 05:30 Djzapz wrote:
Unfortunately I checked and the exhaust happens to be like about $600 just for the pieces. From checking online, I might be able to install it myself, though I'd rather not do that... As for the brakes, maybe - I don't even know what the problem is, perhaps one caliper or something. Either way, the exhaust is expensive.

600 USD for an exhaust pipe? That seems really excessive (unless your catalyser is also fucked). Was this from the official Toyota parts? Or did you try unofficial parts too. In the end, the exhaust is just a piece of steel pipe, after all.

Exhaust is pretty vague though, I mean if it were cracked or there were holes underneath only I think you're right. Could be stuff up near the engine too though. I don't buy the 700 quote unless Canadian shops don't charge shit for labor in auto shops.
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
July 16 2015 21:46 GMT
#6214
I am currently in Reno Nevada looking through the sportsbook at the Atlantis casino and see that they are already have open bets on who the next president of the United States will be. I have a 100$ dollars to burn so I might as well throw it down on down on one of the candidates. The odds are as follows

Clinton 3:1
Bush 4:1
Sanders 6:1
Trump 8:1

Should I play my money close to the vest or ride the dark horse for the next year?
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 16 2015 21:47 GMT
#6215
IDR what it was but I contacted 2 shops, the first one charged me $700, I called a second and told them I was being charged $700 and they told me that sounds like bullshit and to bring it in, so I did, they said the parts are weirdly expensive (and they seemed surprised) and that they could do it for something like $600, and they told me which parts were cracked, and it was two different parts which cost about $300 each, including the muffler box thing as well as the pipe or something like that.

I went and checked right now and the parts are a lot cheaper than I remembered, although they might be the wrong one... or they were short on parts and they were selling them at outrageous prices. Part of the reason why I didn't get it repaired is that I expected a quote for $250-300 and they wanted $600+ which surprised me as much as it surprises you guys.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 16 2015 21:49 GMT
#6216
Sanders. If you win you can brag about how you totally saw it coming because you know politics well enough to predict a dark horse to win. If you lose you can blame it on all dem left-wing hipsters overhyping him. Win-win.
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 16 2015 21:58 GMT
#6217
On July 17 2015 06:47 Djzapz wrote:
IDR what it was but I contacted 2 shops, the first one charged me $700, I called a second and told them I was being charged $700 and they told me that sounds like bullshit and to bring it in, so I did, they said the parts are weirdly expensive (and they seemed surprised) and that they could do it for something like $600, and they told me which parts were cracked, and it was two different parts which cost about $300 each, including the muffler box thing as well as the pipe or something like that.

I went and checked right now and the parts are a lot cheaper than I remembered, although they might be the wrong one... or they were short on parts and they were selling them at outrageous prices. Part of the reason why I didn't get it repaired is that I expected a quote for $250-300 and they wanted $600+ which surprised me as much as it surprises you guys.

Well the official Toyota website lists some parts of the exhaust system as decently expensive (Front Pipe is at almost 400$ and Converter at almost 700$)
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
July 16 2015 22:02 GMT
#6218
I would just ask for the part numbers they need, and ask if you purchased them yourself, could you put them on. Shop around online, see if you can get the parts cheaper and get a quote for labor.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 16 2015 23:04 GMT
#6219
Yeah, seems a bit of a hassle for a car that might end up having other problems and that pollutes like mad. Frankly I'm just looking for excuses to dump it, but if I could make some money back on the tires it'd be great x_x
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23939 Posts
July 17 2015 00:25 GMT
#6220
On July 17 2015 06:46 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I am currently in Reno Nevada looking through the sportsbook at the Atlantis casino and see that they are already have open bets on who the next president of the United States will be. I have a 100$ dollars to burn so I might as well throw it down on down on one of the candidates. The odds are as follows

Clinton 3:1
Bush 4:1
Sanders 6:1
Trump 8:1

Should I play my money close to the vest or ride the dark horse for the next year?


Sanders all day, used to be 35:1
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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