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France17333 Posts
On June 21 2015 02:02 Fecalfeast wrote:don't know anything about networking, for canadian internet, is this good internet? it says faster than 71% but from what I hear from SGTK about other parts of canada, that doesn't mean much to me ![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/4447133009.png)
In my hometown in the French countryside I'm at 512 kbits/s. True story.
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On June 19 2015 22:33 VelJa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2015 22:11 marvellosity wrote:
We drive on the left and I have had approximately 0 problems with our electrical outlets. You know what i mean dude ... ![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/BritishPlugforWikipedia.jpg/180px-BritishPlugforWikipedia.jpg) why ? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ? You are (& old British colonies) the ones using those devices. And ye ofc u drive on the left sry :o
What's wrong with the plugs  They're quite big I guess but they work...
Also driving on the left is superior since most people are right handed and right eyed, leading to less accidents.
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But if you drive on the right, it becomes harder for the driver to shoot at targets in front and behind them, giving cops an advantage in car chases.
:-P
(Is there actually a statistical difference in number of accidents per mile across similar countries and similar roads right vs left side?)
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I would highly doubt it. Brits also have the drivers seat on the other side of the car thus meaning that unless you assume that there is some fundamental way that the human brain differentiates between left and right (There might be, we are not completely symmetrical after all)
It is possible that lefties might have a slightly higher rate of accidents simply because of people from elsewhere who are not used to driving on the left side of the road.
I don't know any statistics regarding this and am too lazy to search for them, either.
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On June 21 2015 03:51 Simberto wrote:
...unless you assume that there is some fundamental way that the human brain differentiates between left and right (There might be, we are not completely symmetrical after all)
There is; it's called eye-dominance. Extend your arm and make your fingers into a ring so you are "sighting" something. Then bring the hand back to your face, keeping the object you're sighting on in the middle of the ring. The eye you come back to is your dominant eye. Most people are right, some are left.
Also, on a manual transmission, sometimes you are steering one-handed with your outside hand, which is left in Franco-driving places and right in Anglo-driving places.
On June 21 2015 03:51 Simberto wrote:
It is possible that lefties might have a slightly higher rate of accidents simply because of people from elsewhere who are not used to driving on the left side of the road.
That might be a better way to test: left-eyed people compared to right-eyed, eliminating the country variable. Does eye dominance correlate to anything else that affects driving safety?
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France17333 Posts
On June 21 2015 04:02 Yoav wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 03:51 Simberto wrote:
...unless you assume that there is some fundamental way that the human brain differentiates between left and right (There might be, we are not completely symmetrical after all)
There is; it's called eye-dominance. Extend your arm and make your fingers into a ring so you are "sighting" something. Then bring the hand back to your face, keeping the object you're sighting on in the middle of the ring. The eye you come back to is your dominant eye. Most people are right, some are left. Also, on a manual transmission, sometimes you are steering one-handed with your outside hand, which is left in Franco-driving places and right in Anglo-driving places. Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 03:51 Simberto wrote:
It is possible that lefties might have a slightly higher rate of accidents simply because of people from elsewhere who are not used to driving on the left side of the road.
That might be a better way to test: left-eyed people compared to right-eyed, eliminating the country variable. Does eye dominance correlate to anything else that affects driving safety?
That's something that struck me once : I'm right-handed (but my dominant eye is left), and when I drive I often drive with only one hand on the steering wheel (independently of having to use the gearbox), and I noticed that I'm much more at ease when it's only my left hand on the wheel than only my right hand.
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Canada11355 Posts
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions?
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France17333 Posts
On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions?
That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root.
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My theory: Since cars are already mostly a penis expansion for a lot of people, they don't want to feel (or seem) like they need help by a machine using their penis.
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On June 21 2015 05:01 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions? That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root.
It's like SC2 versus Broodwar. One is the more polished product, easier to get into, and the obvious eventual winner. The other is harder to use, but ultimately superior.
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On June 21 2015 05:24 Yoav wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 05:01 OtherWorld wrote:On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions? That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root. It's like SC2 versus Broodwar. One is the more polished product, easier to get into, and the obvious eventual winner. The other is harder to use, but ultimately superior.
Legitimate question: in what way is manual ultimately superior?
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On June 21 2015 05:24 Yoav wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 05:01 OtherWorld wrote:On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions? That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root. It's like SC2 versus Broodwar. One is the more polished product, easier to get into, and the obvious eventual winner. The other is harder to use, but ultimately superior.
I'm always so confused when people suggest that manuals are "superior" when they provide the exact same service to the 99% of the population that use cars.
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On June 21 2015 05:39 Coppermantis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 05:24 Yoav wrote:On June 21 2015 05:01 OtherWorld wrote:On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions? That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root. It's like SC2 versus Broodwar. One is the more polished product, easier to get into, and the obvious eventual winner. The other is harder to use, but ultimately superior. Legitimate question: in what way is manual ultimately superior?
Dat clutch micro 
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On June 21 2015 05:39 Coppermantis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 05:24 Yoav wrote:On June 21 2015 05:01 OtherWorld wrote:On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions? That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root. It's like SC2 versus Broodwar. One is the more polished product, easier to get into, and the obvious eventual winner. The other is harder to use, but ultimately superior. Legitimate question: in what way is manual ultimately superior?
More control over what gear you're in dependent on factors beyond mere RPM. Any serious driver uses manual.
On June 21 2015 05:46 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 05:24 Yoav wrote:On June 21 2015 05:01 OtherWorld wrote:On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions? That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root. It's like SC2 versus Broodwar. One is the more polished product, easier to get into, and the obvious eventual winner. The other is harder to use, but ultimately superior. I'm always so confused when people suggest that manuals are "superior" when they provide the exact same service to the 99% of the population that use cars.
They say that because of the 1%, among which way more than that count themselves.
Like BW. For the average fuck, SC2 is a much better game.
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Canada11355 Posts
How am I supposed to smoke, send a text, change the radio and eat a sandwich if I have to shift gears?
In all seriousness, though, I feel like it would become tedious to have to switch gears manually every single day to and from work. I guess if we're using the starcraft analogy, if I didn't follow or particularly enjoy SC but I had to play a game before work I'd go for the easier time as well.
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France17333 Posts
On June 21 2015 05:47 Yoav wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 05:39 Coppermantis wrote:On June 21 2015 05:24 Yoav wrote:On June 21 2015 05:01 OtherWorld wrote:On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions? That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root. It's like SC2 versus Broodwar. One is the more polished product, easier to get into, and the obvious eventual winner. The other is harder to use, but ultimately superior. Legitimate question: in what way is manual ultimately superior? More control over what gear you're in dependent on factors beyond mere RPM. Any serious driver uses manual. Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 05:46 Thieving Magpie wrote:On June 21 2015 05:24 Yoav wrote:On June 21 2015 05:01 OtherWorld wrote:On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions? That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root. It's like SC2 versus Broodwar. One is the more polished product, easier to get into, and the obvious eventual winner. The other is harder to use, but ultimately superior. I'm always so confused when people suggest that manuals are "superior" when they provide the exact same service to the 99% of the population that use cars. They say that because of the 1%, among which way more than that count themselves. Like BW. For the average fuck, SC2 is a much better game.
Yeah but now in Europe we have automatics which also give you the possibility to manually switch gear when you feel you need that extra control. That's like the best of both worlds put in the same car, there're no more reasons to use manual only cars.
And since we're in the stupid questions thread : do you Americans brake with the left foot or the right foot, considering that you have no clutch pedal?
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On June 21 2015 06:42 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 05:47 Yoav wrote:On June 21 2015 05:39 Coppermantis wrote:On June 21 2015 05:24 Yoav wrote:On June 21 2015 05:01 OtherWorld wrote:On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions? That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root. It's like SC2 versus Broodwar. One is the more polished product, easier to get into, and the obvious eventual winner. The other is harder to use, but ultimately superior. Legitimate question: in what way is manual ultimately superior? More control over what gear you're in dependent on factors beyond mere RPM. Any serious driver uses manual. On June 21 2015 05:46 Thieving Magpie wrote:On June 21 2015 05:24 Yoav wrote:On June 21 2015 05:01 OtherWorld wrote:On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions? That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root. It's like SC2 versus Broodwar. One is the more polished product, easier to get into, and the obvious eventual winner. The other is harder to use, but ultimately superior. I'm always so confused when people suggest that manuals are "superior" when they provide the exact same service to the 99% of the population that use cars. They say that because of the 1%, among which way more than that count themselves. Like BW. For the average fuck, SC2 is a much better game. Yeah but now in Europe we have automatics which also give you the possibility to manually switch gear when you feel you need that extra control. That's like the best of both worlds put in the same car, there're no more reasons to use manual only cars. And since we're in the stupid questions thread : do you Americans brake with the left foot or the right foot, considering that you have no clutch pedal?
Oh god, right foot. People who drive automatics with both feet give me an aneurysm.
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Canada11355 Posts
On June 21 2015 06:42 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 05:47 Yoav wrote:On June 21 2015 05:39 Coppermantis wrote:On June 21 2015 05:24 Yoav wrote:On June 21 2015 05:01 OtherWorld wrote:On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions? That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root. It's like SC2 versus Broodwar. One is the more polished product, easier to get into, and the obvious eventual winner. The other is harder to use, but ultimately superior. Legitimate question: in what way is manual ultimately superior? More control over what gear you're in dependent on factors beyond mere RPM. Any serious driver uses manual. On June 21 2015 05:46 Thieving Magpie wrote:On June 21 2015 05:24 Yoav wrote:On June 21 2015 05:01 OtherWorld wrote:On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions? That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root. It's like SC2 versus Broodwar. One is the more polished product, easier to get into, and the obvious eventual winner. The other is harder to use, but ultimately superior. I'm always so confused when people suggest that manuals are "superior" when they provide the exact same service to the 99% of the population that use cars. They say that because of the 1%, among which way more than that count themselves. Like BW. For the average fuck, SC2 is a much better game. Yeah but now in Europe we have automatics which also give you the possibility to manually switch gear when you feel you need that extra control. That's like the best of both worlds put in the same car, there're no more reasons to use manual only cars. And since we're in the stupid questions thread : do you Americans brake with the left foot or the right foot, considering that you have no clutch pedal?
Right foot, two-footed driving is frowned upon, at least where I'm from. (Obviously some people drive standard here and use two feet)
On June 21 2015 06:44 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2015 06:42 OtherWorld wrote:On June 21 2015 05:47 Yoav wrote:On June 21 2015 05:39 Coppermantis wrote:On June 21 2015 05:24 Yoav wrote:On June 21 2015 05:01 OtherWorld wrote:On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions? That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root. It's like SC2 versus Broodwar. One is the more polished product, easier to get into, and the obvious eventual winner. The other is harder to use, but ultimately superior. Legitimate question: in what way is manual ultimately superior? More control over what gear you're in dependent on factors beyond mere RPM. Any serious driver uses manual. On June 21 2015 05:46 Thieving Magpie wrote:On June 21 2015 05:24 Yoav wrote:On June 21 2015 05:01 OtherWorld wrote:On June 21 2015 04:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it so common in european countries for people to still use manual transmissions? That's an interesting question. Having drove both I know that I prefer automatic transmissions, it's just so much smoother, and I don't understand why there are so few of them in France, but I can guess one of the reasons why. Logically, not having many automatics on the roads means that few people are willing to buy them ; thus an automatic will be harder to sell used than a manual car, which in turn prevents people from buying automatics brand new because they fear they won't sell it at a decent price. That's only one of the visible consequences of something else that is the root of why there aren't many automatics here though, and I don't know what is this root. It's like SC2 versus Broodwar. One is the more polished product, easier to get into, and the obvious eventual winner. The other is harder to use, but ultimately superior. I'm always so confused when people suggest that manuals are "superior" when they provide the exact same service to the 99% of the population that use cars. They say that because of the 1%, among which way more than that count themselves. Like BW. For the average fuck, SC2 is a much better game. Yeah but now in Europe we have automatics which also give you the possibility to manually switch gear when you feel you need that extra control. That's like the best of both worlds put in the same car, there're no more reasons to use manual only cars. And since we're in the stupid questions thread : do you Americans brake with the left foot or the right foot, considering that you have no clutch pedal? Oh god, right foot. People who drive automatics with both feet give me an aneurysm.
Yeah, seeing the brake lights flash while going straight is so confusing
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On June 21 2015 06:42 OtherWorld wrote:
And since we're in the stupid questions thread : do you Americans brake with the left foot or the right foot, considering that you have no clutch pedal?
Right foot. When I was learning to drive it was stressed not to use two feet; I don't know anyone who does.
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Anyone try to remember back to when they were a young child and not be able to tell if you are remembering the childhood memory or just remembering you remembering it?
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