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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12326 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-09 21:58:45
May 09 2020 21:58 GMT
#5021
On May 10 2020 05:19 Ben... wrote:
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This is not so much blowing off steam as just expressing bewilderment.

I'd be curious to see the differences in psychological profiles of people based on which race they pick in Starcraft (in my case, SC2, but also in BW). I've been playing a lot more frequently lately due to the lockdown, and I've noticed that I only ever get BMed, balance whined, etc. by terran players. I almost never see BM from zergs or protosses but I see it in probably 20-30% of my games against terran. It's everything from "lol protoss" to outright bizarre stuff. I just finished a game against a very bad turtle terran who wanted to go for mass BCs and do the ol' "yamato and jump" strategy so I hard-countered it. Before leaving they hurled a bunch of insults at me, ending with accusing me of using the "mule worker hack", whatever that is.

I just wonder why this is the case I guess. Is there some personality trait that makes certain people choose terran that also has the effect of making a small subset of those people also be rude or intense? Is it the influence of several particularly negative terran streamers in the past that has encouraged ladder terrans to act this way?

I guess one example of this that we can all see is if we compare Artosis's BW stream to Tasteless's. Artosis takes things incredibly seriously, tends to criticize his opponents and call them "bad" a lot, and gets visibly upset some games when he loses. Tasteless, on the other hand, just chills while he listens to music and his losses tend to be water under the bridge. He'll look at his replays for mistakes and so on but he never seems to actually get properly mad when things go wrong. Obviously the two have quite different personalities but it does make me wonder if personality has an impact on what race someone chooses.


When someone plays well as terran, you immediately notice, even if you're not very smart. If you don't know what's going on at all, you might not notice that a zerg or a protoss is playing well because that requires more awareness of what's going on and some less flashy micro. Casts tend to reflect that as well. A lot of terrans develop superiority complex because of that.

That's how I justify it anyway. I had a string in 2013 where I got insulted something like 17 times out of the last 20 terrans I played, and something like twice by other races at the same time. That being said I heard that in BW terran played more like protoss does in SC2, so much so that a few players switched races... and yet in BW it was still protoss that was dirty and terran that was pure, so it's possible that this is simply racism.
No will to live, no wish to die
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 09 2020 22:00 GMT
#5022
On May 10 2020 05:19 Ben... wrote:
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This is not so much blowing off steam as just expressing bewilderment.

I'd be curious to see the differences in psychological profiles of people based on which race they pick in Starcraft (in my case, SC2, but also in BW). I've been playing a lot more frequently lately due to the lockdown, and I've noticed that I only ever get BMed, balance whined, etc. by terran players. I almost never see BM from zergs or protosses but I see it in probably 20-30% of my games against terran. It's everything from "lol protoss" to outright bizarre stuff. I just finished a game against a very bad turtle terran who wanted to go for mass BCs and do the ol' "yamato and jump" strategy so I hard-countered it. Before leaving they hurled a bunch of insults at me, ending with accusing me of using the "mule worker hack", whatever that is.

I just wonder why this is the case I guess. Is there some personality trait that makes certain people choose terran that also has the effect of making a small subset of those people also be rude or intense? Is it the influence of several particularly negative terran streamers in the past that has encouraged ladder terrans to act this way?

I guess one example of this that we can all see is if we compare Artosis's BW stream to Tasteless's. Artosis takes things incredibly seriously, tends to criticize his opponents and call them "bad" a lot, and gets visibly upset some games when he loses. Tasteless, on the other hand, just chills while he listens to music and his losses tend to be water under the bridge. He'll look at his replays for mistakes and so on but he never seems to actually get properly mad when things go wrong. Obviously the two have quite different personalities but it does make me wonder if personality has an impact on what race someone chooses.

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I agree. I think deep down we Protoss players all know we play a bullshit race so we just enjoy it. Although Zerg does have a lot of way to be cheeky in SC2 with the latest expansion. But I agree that every race attracts a certain mentality for better or for worse.

I think Zerg is a more "feminine" race because in ZvT and ZvP it's up to the other player to take the initiative and dictate the pace of the matchup, or else Zerg macros on like 7 hatcheries, switches to army units and a-moves to victory. That's just my theory on why most of my IRL zerg friends are either women or effeminate men.

Girls do play Z more though - a plurality of listed players in all but 2 female-only tournaments between 2014 and 2018 are zerg. Of course the "why" is up for debate.
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Kertorak
Profile Joined November 2019
125 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-11 05:55:50
May 11 2020 05:18 GMT
#5023
Adventures through the internet. Not steamy at all, but kinda funny to me... anyways certainly belongs into this thread if I want to "let it off" anywhere.

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great - I thought. I found a good ebay offer for a "merely" used mouse. shortly after I found an even cheaper offer on amazon (a not used mouse).

FYI I'm new to ebay, so I registered there today. (found this by search engine for the mouse in question)

I thought - this dude sells his used mouse for the same price the new one can be gotten on amazon, let's write him a price-suggestion (an option I found after browsing through the website...)
I included a formal, nice hint, that he could suggest a cheaper price without any force (one of my 3 arguments was, the missing 2 year warranty), and followed it up with my source where I saw it cheaper or rather: totally new for the same price.

Duuuuuuup. A few minutes (or was it even a minute? could be seconds, I didn't check) later I was banned on ebay.
Apparently their automated system finds someone writing a link via private massage & being a new account, must be a bad guy. Remind you it was only a source for my information, and not any hint for having to buy anything from the link I gave.

Needless to say I am amazed, the second accusation (in form of quick-ban) this month. Lots of internet meta (kinda starcraft-unit composition~way to treat customers who are not behaving "normally") you are not aware off because you are not using it. Feels a bit like early-rushing in starcraft 2 and then getting flamed - I am not supposed to do that? (not meta) Another case I need to address/write to/ask for.../we. Sigh.

I wish I had quality over quantity | "The point of Sc<x> is that your skill a constant WIP - which provides that unique joy of the game - not to post which rank you are in a this moment"
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
July 04 2020 08:36 GMT
#5024
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I should fucking kill myself, life will never improve, this place is fucking built to be miserable. A miserable life is so much worse than an early fucking grave. Why bother trying anymore every fucking failure is another notch on the belt confirming that I will never have a life that I consider worth living so why push through year and year of new failures and new ways to be made miserable.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
July 04 2020 10:30 GMT
#5025
On July 04 2020 17:36 Zambrah wrote:
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I should fucking kill myself, life will never improve, this place is fucking built to be miserable. A miserable life is so much worse than an early fucking grave. Why bother trying anymore every fucking failure is another notch on the belt confirming that I will never have a life that I consider worth living so why push through year and year of new failures and new ways to be made miserable.

Don’t do it.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45047 Posts
July 04 2020 11:30 GMT
#5026
On July 04 2020 17:36 Zambrah wrote:
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I should fucking kill myself, life will never improve, this place is fucking built to be miserable. A miserable life is so much worse than an early fucking grave. Why bother trying anymore every fucking failure is another notch on the belt confirming that I will never have a life that I consider worth living so why push through year and year of new failures and new ways to be made miserable.


Please PM me or someone else that you trust, if you'd like to vent or discuss things <3

We can listen
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
franzji
Profile Joined September 2013
United States583 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 20:09:47
July 04 2020 18:19 GMT
#5027
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I am so frustrated with dating and women I just need to vent it out for a second, sorry if it's incoherent. The few dates I've landed have been a disaster and and I can never meet someone who shares any level of understanding or similarity to me.

I was not born not very attractive, but I'm not ugly and I take good care myself. I have a good paying job and stable life at 24, love the outdoors and workout, am fit and 5'11. I do volunteer work, and do work with kids. Grew up Catholic and follow it decently well, though not strictly. The point is I don't feel like there is a huge amount I can do to improve myself to look more marketable to getting first dates, as shallow as that sounds.

I won't settle for someone obese or someone who is only interested in hookups. I want someone who can share a similar lifestyle to me (which includes a lot of hiking, cycling, outdoors), and someone with similar values. Part of my difficulty is I don't watch television so if I do land a date, they just want to talk about this or that TV show which I find incredibility dull.

Now with COVID it feels like the only way to meet someone is online dating. I read that with online dating, 80% of women choose 20% of men, making it extremely difficult for guys. I'm not a 10/10 looking guy. It's all incredibility horrible situation on these apps for men and it's bad for my mental health. I don't want to sound like an incel or anything, it's not women's fault our society is like this now. I feel like it's very difficult to meet people these days, for men and women. Do men and women have crazy expectations for love because of movies/tv? And when I flop with a girl I feel like a loser.

I'm just so lost with it. I've even considered moving away once to a place with a better outlook.

The thing is on one hand I tell myself that it isn't a big deal. I shouldn't be so down about it. But on the other hand I do get lonely and want a close relationship with a girl.
EmoBacon
Profile Blog Joined February 2018
41 Posts
July 04 2020 23:45 GMT
#5028
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i'm miserable sorry for wasting your time
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-10 04:08:13
July 10 2020 04:06 GMT
#5029
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Been getting vexed playing SC2 and watching GSL recently.

Zerg gets a million safe places to put overlords and early speed for overlord scouting but protoss gets nothing for scouting that can't be easily denied early on and every other means of scouting requires delaying tech. Pool first is basically a macro build at this point since protoss has to play so paranoid because of ling floods. Watching GSL-level protoss players get leveled by ling floods is quite frustrating. Defending ling floods is so much harder than executing them and they're impossible to scout in time since they hit so fast and zerg can deny almost all scouting for the first few minutes with a couple lings and then it's too late. These ling flood builds honestly feel borderline broken at times because they're hard to scout, are incredibly difficult to defend even if scouted, and to play safe against them requires either you to play so safe as to be behind against standard play or for the zerg to screw up and not deny scouting. When defended, ling floods rarely result in the zerg being behind since there's a certain amount of damage almost guaranteed to be done so there isn't any real disadvantage to doing so, and if warp gate is denied the protoss is suddenly irreparably behind.

It honestly feels like PvZ is about to be at a breaking point where it might completely break in favour of zerg soon. We just watched nearly every protoss in GSL get steamrolled in the matchup. The adept pressure stuff is figured out and there's nothing for protoss to replace it with because everything good has been nerfed. This new two stargate phoenix build we saw also seems horrible and seems like it won't be viable. The PvZ win tally this GSL RO24 was 7-14 in favour of zerg and most zerg series wins were 2-0s with no close games. Stats got through because his opponent messed up and was much rustier. 4 of the protoss wins were Stats versus a noticeably off-form Impact. Trap barely got through 2-0 against a player he is much better than. Other than that there was one win from Prince against Scarlett (that more came down to a big mistake from Scarlett than Prince winning). Every other PvZ was a protoss loss and most of them were one-sided.

I dunno what protoss does from here. Adepts clearly don't work. Charge is worse than adepts. Blink takes too long so zerg easily defends it. Zergs remembered ravagers exist so immortal/sentry doesn't work anymore. Blink DTs only work if the zerg massively messes up and doesn't scout. Queen/spore shuts down anything in the air. Prism/Archon is completely mapped out and is useless now. There's no pressure builds left to keep zerg honest so every game is going to turn into the steamrolling we saw over and over.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6995 Posts
July 10 2020 08:40 GMT
#5030
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At this point, if I were a US citizen, I would vote for Kanye. Everyone is better than Trump...
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
July 12 2020 03:18 GMT
#5031
On July 04 2020 17:36 Zambrah wrote:
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I should fucking kill myself, life will never improve, this place is fucking built to be miserable. A miserable life is so much worse than an early fucking grave. Why bother trying anymore every fucking failure is another notch on the belt confirming that I will never have a life that I consider worth living so why push through year and year of new failures and new ways to be made miserable.


Hi, I've struggled with depression all my life up until a year or so ago. If you want advice or just someone to talk to please PM me.
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6215 Posts
July 14 2020 16:07 GMT
#5032
This fucking year.

Grant Imahara passed away from a brain aneurysm. He was only 49.
I met him over a decade ago at a robotics competition, and it was surprising how small he is, but how large his personality was.

Rest in Peace.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12326 Posts
July 21 2020 00:34 GMT
#5033
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RIP Michael Brooks,

fuck everything
No will to live, no wish to die
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7139 Posts
July 23 2020 16:31 GMT
#5034
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i wanna fucking break my table playing tvz. its a fucking impossible matchup if you dont kill 20 drones in the first 5 minutes and if you do its 50/50.
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7139 Posts
August 08 2020 19:40 GMT
#5035
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It's actually criminally insane how fucking terrible i am at this game
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
August 13 2020 02:59 GMT
#5036
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put in two weeks notice at that shit house Amazon warehouse, and now that crippling sense of dread creeps in because that was the only job I could find after six months of hunting. I love America, I LOVE having to make that choice between paying bills and functioning knees and sleeping my 100 degree car or just not getting sleep over a 48 hour period. Id ask my how my quality of life could get any lower but why fucking tempt fate. I seriously can't fathom doing THIS for another 60 plus years. This is what my life is? This is what I have to deal with if I opt to go on? Everything around me is garbage and the thought of living with and as and in and around garbage for my entire life just makes me fucking sick
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26032 Posts
August 13 2020 15:00 GMT
#5037
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Fuckkkk.
I just want to go back to school without having to live like a monk for a fucking year. Why is it so fucking difficult?

For reference I have a 10 hour basic contract, which I was happy to keep because the hours work for when I do transition to full time education.

Corona hits and shit hits the fan. Suited me. Nothing else to do in lockdown and I was happy to plug all the holes. Having 70 hour weeks and a routine of doing 5pm-5am shifts and waking up and going straight back the next day was sweet for my purposes at the time.

Oh and I’m bipolar and under strong medical advisement to do night shifts and keep irregular hours. But hey it’s for a short period so I can stomach it for a long term goal.

Didn’t get to see kiddo as his mum was (correctly, given the public’s shit adherence to personal space) worried about me getting ye olde virus.

Then the hours dried up. First it was temp workers. Which was fine on night shifts. Most folks there were 35+ years old and had been laid off their jobs. I can take a solidarity hit for other people in shit situations in extraordinary circumstances.

On days it was another story. Mostly 16-18 year old students without the financial stresses of bills to be paying. The cynic in me, probably correctly surmised it was due to us paying them slightly less than us regulars.

Now they’ve fucked off I have fuck all hours either, for some reason they think it’s a good idea for morale to give hours in a haphazard ‘whoever is in at the time’ manner, so me working Thurs/Fri is missing out.

Having raised the issue that people who took voluntary time off from Covid for a month as opposed to me being happy to work all sorts of hours getting more hours than me as being BS I was apparently ‘being difficult’.

Sigh.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-14 23:15:01
August 14 2020 23:10 GMT
#5038
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Holy fucking God, this paper straw thing had to end. I refuse to stick that wet soggy shit stained toilet paper roll in my mouth. I don't care how good for the environment it is (it's like the smallest thing ever, there are a million more practical things to focus on).

I will literally buy the most anti decomposible one use toxic plastics that offset 1000 paper straws any time someone tries to hand me a paper straw, and make it so the net result of paper straws is worse than plastics. That sweet lead, mercury, and technetium will soak into the earth and kill every single last turtle (and I love turtles), and yeah, those toxic chemicals can't be worse for me than what paper straws do to me mentally.

You might as well start making cars out of paper too, so what they only last 5 meters, they're better for the environment. 5 meters is still better than 3 fucking sips before it dissolves in my drink and I taste paper pulp on my tongue for the next 4 hours. What's next, paper condoms? Don't even get me started on those shit paper cups that start leaking if you don't drink them in 10 minutes.

Fucking idiots holy shit.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-14 23:34:49
August 14 2020 23:31 GMT
#5039
On July 05 2020 03:19 franzji wrote:
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I am so frustrated with dating and women I just need to vent it out for a second, sorry if it's incoherent. The few dates I've landed have been a disaster and and I can never meet someone who shares any level of understanding or similarity to me.

I was not born not very attractive, but I'm not ugly and I take good care myself. I have a good paying job and stable life at 24, love the outdoors and workout, am fit and 5'11. I do volunteer work, and do work with kids. Grew up Catholic and follow it decently well, though not strictly. The point is I don't feel like there is a huge amount I can do to improve myself to look more marketable to getting first dates, as shallow as that sounds.

I won't settle for someone obese or someone who is only interested in hookups. I want someone who can share a similar lifestyle to me (which includes a lot of hiking, cycling, outdoors), and someone with similar values. Part of my difficulty is I don't watch television so if I do land a date, they just want to talk about this or that TV show which I find incredibility dull.

Now with COVID it feels like the only way to meet someone is online dating. I read that with online dating, 80% of women choose 20% of men, making it extremely difficult for guys. I'm not a 10/10 looking guy. It's all incredibility horrible situation on these apps for men and it's bad for my mental health. I don't want to sound like an incel or anything, it's not women's fault our society is like this now. I feel like it's very difficult to meet people these days, for men and women. Do men and women have crazy expectations for love because of movies/tv? And when I flop with a girl I feel like a loser.

I'm just so lost with it. I've even considered moving away once to a place with a better outlook.

The thing is on one hand I tell myself that it isn't a big deal. I shouldn't be so down about it. But on the other hand I do get lonely and want a close relationship with a girl.


I find the harder I try, the worse I do. The more logically you approach it, the more boring you become, I think anyway. And when you're looking for someone rational as well, you don't bring much interesting stuff to the table.

The most success I have is when I go out of town for work, and rent an Airbnb. I'm with my coworkers, they're throwing really bad bro tips to me, it's all really cringey, but they give me a lot of confidence, I know this won't be a long term thing, so I'm not over analysing what I say, with no worry of fucking something up. Too often on Tindr you don't know anything about the person, so you start really reserved to not offend, and try to match what they are looking for, but that's boring af, corporate, very impersonal. Too often guys think what will they think of me, without realizing that the person on the other side is just thinking about what they are doing, and trying to match your energy a little bit too. Heck, you can tell them that you're shooting up heroin atm, and they'll be intrigued and be more curious about your life, versus being some guy who has stability in his life, be decently looking, and making 200k/year. You have to slowly ease into those lame things you do that everyone likes doing.

My 2 cents anyway.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 15 2020 01:19 GMT
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