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As someone who lost 80 pounds in a year and gained a lot of muscle, I'll throw in two things: consistency, and cutting out "bored calories". Obviously everyone is different, but I found that a large amount of stuff I ate throughout the day was just because I felt like I needed to eat just for fun almost, its tough to explain, but once I started breaking that habit things started going well. Get some calorie free snacks to eat between meals if its too hard, I used sugar free jello (10 calories per cup, you can just stuff those down and it fills you up), chewing gum, or sometimes diet soda.
I always eat a regular 3 meals a day, never starve yourself, I eat quite heartily (chicken, grilled vegies, lots of rice/oatmeal, potatoes, milk, sandwiches). Work out with weights/some aerobic stuff/pushups 2 x everyday, about an hour total. I also walk/jog for about 30 minutes everyday (though I usually didn't have time for this during class days).
Other than that I still maintain a nerdy lifestyle (spend a lot of time at the computer, etc) and never did any real calorie counting or pulled any extreme measures. So yeah just devote some time everyday (no excuses :p) and cut out as many non-vital calories as you can with sugar free snacks, or through willpower if you are so inclined.
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Keep it up man. And to all of you that want to loose some weight i can say from experience that the first few weeks are the real issue, when you get through them it's much easier.
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So if i'm trying to gain weight i should do the opposite? I try adding eating oreos cookies and ice cream about 30 to an hour before bed to my diet and I'm still underweight lol. Think my problem is too much water in my diet.
Honestly my best guess as to why I'm so thin is that I loveee water. And not just plain water. Ice water. A cup when you wake up and a bit before bed does a lot in the long run. (It has to do with your body having to warm up the warm before digesting it or something idk)
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On June 03 2011 15:40 phiinix wrote:
So if i'm trying to gain weight i should do the opposite? I try adding eating oreos cookies and ice cream about 30 to an hour before bed to my diet and I'm still underweight lol. Think my problem is too much water in my diet.
Honestly my best guess as to why I'm so thin is that I loveee water. And not just plain water. Ice water. A cup when you wake up and a bit before bed does a lot in the long run. (It has to do with your body having to warm up the warm before digesting it or something idk)
Eat a lot and when you think youre full you eat another plate, figure out how many calories you need to maintain your body weight and shoot for a surplus of 500 to 700 calories. Also don't eat just junk, an easy way to pack on the pounds is peanut butter sandwiches and whole milk.
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Hey people on this thread seem to have a lot of knowledge about KETO diets. I just started it about 2 weeks ago (and I am in KETO I got those cool ketostix yay!), and my goal is not to end up with the super skinny rib cage showing body of marathoner. That being said, I am primarily a runner, but I could care less about lifting huge amounts of weight or be ripped by any means, I just don't want to be super skinny. If your goal was to just cut body fat, not necessarily to increase lean muscle mass (i.e. I just want to lose fat, but I don't care if I get stronger), can I just KETO + distance run/distance cycle.
My current body fat % is sitting at about 14%.
I currently do 1 hour runs/ 1 hour cycle cessions every 3 days with 1 resting day and I throw in a weight session about 1-2 a week for upper body (so I don't atrophy away).
Any suggestions?
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Good stuff, this will definitly work. I guess you can summarise it to: Eat less, work out a bit = profit. Hope you can inspire people to live healthier and better.
Just adding some stuff:
I definitly don't think you have to eat many small meals for it to work, for me I've found that eating a few big meals and that worked out better for me. I ate three 500 kcal meals/day, all of them making me very full and worked out 5 times a week. From that I lost ca 1,5 pound/week until I felt the way I wanted. I started at 154 punds, so if you are overweight, which I wasn't, it will work even better and faster.
Also, creatine is not dangerous. I suggest eating it apart from the protein tho. Creatine will make you stronger in the gym and that will give your body better and more visible results. Much research is done on it, just google and see.
Good luck everyone!
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This thread is overly scientific, it doesn't deal with the real challenge of weight loss, the mental aspect. I've lost 15kg over the last few months after being overweight for 2 years, and for the second half of that period I was trying to lose weight. It wasn't the lack of genius diets or exercise regimens that caused me to fail for that year.
You need to develop a motivation to lose weight, based on some tangible goals, and sustain that motivation even when your weight loss slows after initial rapid gains. The greater your motivation the more extreme a change you can endure. Without that motivation you will fail in the long run.
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Well.. I'm like 5"8, and 55kg..
I've been trying to put on a little weight so I can actually gain some muscle tone/depth but I keep losing weight. The most I've weighed is 59kg and that's when I was going to the gym twice a week and eating as much as I could. It's frustrating as hell, so what do you health freaks suggest me do?
I go to the gym for a 45 minute workout with my personal trainer, and we do various things but generally cardio, chest, legs, abs and bicep exercises. In regards to food I eat breakfast, lunch and dinner, I drink 2 coffees in the morning, the rest of the day I drink water. I workout at the gym on Tuesdays and I take Musashi Bulk Mass Gain Protein Powder after I get home(like 5 minutes from the gym). I usually do some workouts on wednesdays and fridays but they're just really jogging and ab exercises nothing too heavy because all I own is a treadmill and 2 2kg dumbells LOL. Ohh and I hardly ever have snacks because there is usually nothing in the cupboards xD. I also go on a jog every 2 or so days, since I live in the blue mountains so it's nice and refreshing to go down the bush trails and jog especially after a long sc2 losing streak  .
But apart from going to gym and the occasional run, I just sit on my ass play sc2/go out with friends. Nothing really else.
so tl;dr
How do I gain weight?
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On June 03 2011 18:10 MonkSEA wrote:
Well.. I'm like 5"8, and 55kg..
so tl;dr
How do I gain weight?
Eat more. There is no complicated answer. It is that simple. Eat. More.
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On June 03 2011 18:14 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 18:10 MonkSEA wrote:
Well.. I'm like 5"8, and 55kg..
so tl;dr
How do I gain weight?
Eat more. There is no complicated answer. It is that simple. Eat. More.
Uh, it's far from simple. I'd say it's about a billion times harder than losing weight.
This thread has too much focus on the AMOUNT you eat in general. If your insulin levels are high you will gain weight regardless if you eat 1500 kcal a day or 4000. With that said, if you're truly motivated to lose weight, you'll likely succeed until you lose motivation. Losing weight is easy. Gaining weight is hard.
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On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Uh, it's far from simple. I'd say it's about a billion times harder than losing weight.
No
On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Losing weight is easy. Gaining weight is Hard.
No
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On June 03 2011 16:56 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote:
Hey people on this thread seem to have a lot of knowledge about KETO diets. I just started it about 2 weeks ago (and I am in KETO I got those cool ketostix yay!), and my goal is not to end up with the super skinny rib cage showing body of marathoner. That being said, I am primarily a runner, but I could care less about lifting huge amounts of weight or be ripped by any means, I just don't want to be super skinny. If your goal was to just cut body fat, not necessarily to increase lean muscle mass (i.e. I just want to lose fat, but I don't care if I get stronger), can I just KETO + distance run/distance cycle.
My current body fat % is sitting at about 14%.
I currently do 1 hour runs/ 1 hour cycle cessions every 3 days with 1 resting day and I throw in a weight session about 1-2 a week for upper body (so I don't atrophy away).
Any suggestions?
The thing is while cutting (lossing bodyfat weight) it is almost impossible to gain any lean body mass (muscle) no matter what you do. You see to gain weight you need to eat more calories than your metabolism burns daily. So if you can't gain any muscle while cutting it's only logical that you will lose it while in caloric deposit.
You being on a keto diet tells me that you have done some research about it and do care to some extend about your body composition. So I'll tell you this. To maintain lean body mass while cutting you need to do weight training to minimize the damage as much as possible. If you exclude weight training I'm afraid there's no way to maintain same muscle mass.
With cardio alone you will see the most results on a scale (loss of fat and muscle the easy way). Weight training + cardio will give you best results if you look at body composition (loss of fat and maintaining muscle as much as possible).
You can find some info on http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/topicoftheweek88.htm but those methods always include weight training. But at least you can read up to see how the process exactly works.
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Thanks a lot guys, I'm ready to lose some calories now  !
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On June 03 2011 18:45 Anabolicqt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Uh, it's far from simple. I'd say it's about a billion times harder than losing weight.
No Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Losing weight is easy. Gaining weight is Hard.
No
Some really well-crafted arguments there.
If you need to gain weight, you can't be lazy. You have to cook food, you have to go to the gym, etc. If you need to lose weight, you can be lazy as hell. That's the difference.
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On June 03 2011 18:10 MonkSEA wrote:Well.. I'm like 5"8, and 55kg.. I've been trying to put on a little weight so I can actually gain some muscle tone/depth but I keep losing weight. The most I've weighed is 59kg and that's when I was going to the gym twice a week and eating as much as I could. It's frustrating as hell, so what do you health freaks suggest me do? I go to the gym for a 45 minute workout with my personal trainer, and we do various things but generally cardio, chest, legs, abs and bicep exercises. In regards to food I eat breakfast, lunch and dinner, I drink 2 coffees in the morning, the rest of the day I drink water. I workout at the gym on Tuesdays and I take Musashi Bulk Mass Gain Protein Powder after I get home(like 5 minutes from the gym). I usually do some workouts on wednesdays and fridays but they're just really jogging and ab exercises nothing too heavy because all I own is a treadmill and 2 2kg dumbells LOL. Ohh and I hardly ever have snacks because there is usually nothing in the cupboards xD. I also go on a jog every 2 or so days, since I live in the blue mountains so it's nice and refreshing to go down the bush trails and jog especially after a long sc2 losing streak . But apart from going to gym and the occasional run, I just sit on my ass play sc2/go out with friends. Nothing really else. so tl;dr How do I gain weight?
Come in here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=180919
And for all that matters, from your short description of what you are doing with your personal trainer, that's probably totally worthless, you should get ridd of him.
If you love to run, cut out the extra cardio in the gym, what would you need that for if you wanna gain weight?. Do deadlifts and squats, that will put some meat on your frame. Abs and biceps exercises are useless if you want to gain. Do you like milk? If so, drink as much whole milk as you can every day. Forcefeed yourself.
Just come to our little thread and we will help you. We have a 100lb guy which has gained ~15lb in 4 weeks.
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One thing I'd warn for when going for weightloss is to carefully listen to your body when it comes to exercise. When you're overweight a schedule where you're running 10-30 mins every day can wreck your knees/ankles if you don't take enough rest. It's easy to trick yourself into thinking it's fine when you're very determined to lose weight and you'll just keep going. At some point you'll injure yourself and you won't be able to do any running for weeks.
Instead I'd suggest to alternate between cardio and weight training every day. For example - you walk/jog on mondays, do situps/pushups etc on tuesdays - back to walk/jog on wednesdays. This'll allow your body to recover from the exercises for an extra day (which is huge), and you'll still be active every day.
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On June 03 2011 18:10 MonkSEA wrote:Well.. I'm like 5"8, and 55kg.. I've been trying to put on a little weight so I can actually gain some muscle tone/depth but I keep losing weight. The most I've weighed is 59kg and that's when I was going to the gym twice a week and eating as much as I could. It's frustrating as hell, so what do you health freaks suggest me do? I go to the gym for a 45 minute workout with my personal trainer, and we do various things but generally cardio, chest, legs, abs and bicep exercises. In regards to food I eat breakfast, lunch and dinner, I drink 2 coffees in the morning, the rest of the day I drink water. I workout at the gym on Tuesdays and I take Musashi Bulk Mass Gain Protein Powder after I get home(like 5 minutes from the gym). I usually do some workouts on wednesdays and fridays but they're just really jogging and ab exercises nothing too heavy because all I own is a treadmill and 2 2kg dumbells LOL. Ohh and I hardly ever have snacks because there is usually nothing in the cupboards xD. I also go on a jog every 2 or so days, since I live in the blue mountains so it's nice and refreshing to go down the bush trails and jog especially after a long sc2 losing streak . But apart from going to gym and the occasional run, I just sit on my ass play sc2/go out with friends. Nothing really else. so tl;dr How do I gain weight?
http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/harris-benedict-equation/calorie-intake-to-gain-weight.php
+ weight training
- cardio
On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 18:14 SolHeiM wrote:On June 03 2011 18:10 MonkSEA wrote:
Well.. I'm like 5"8, and 55kg..
so tl;dr
How do I gain weight?
Eat more. There is no complicated answer. It is that simple. Eat. More. Uh, it's far from simple. I'd say it's about a billion times harder than losing weight. This thread has too much focus on the AMOUNT you eat in general. If your insulin levels are high you will gain weight regardless if you eat 1500 kcal a day or 4000. With that said, if you're truly motivated to lose weight, you'll likely succeed until you lose motivation. Losing weight is easy. Gaining weight is hard.
Completely agree. Unless people have experience with both cutting and bulking, they will never understand this.
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On June 03 2011 19:05 Nightfly wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 18:45 Anabolicqt wrote:On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Uh, it's far from simple. I'd say it's about a billion times harder than losing weight.
No On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Losing weight is easy. Gaining weight is Hard.
No Some really well-crafted arguments there. If you need to gain weight, you can't be lazy. You have to cook food, you have to go to the gym, etc. If you need to lose weight, you can be lazy as hell. That's the difference.
Your line of argumentation suggests that any well-crafted argument would probably be wasted on you. But anyway: Going to the gym doesn't make you gain weight... expanding more calories than normal by working out makes you gain weight? Do you believe muscles come from thin air? Eating is what makes you gain weight.
Being lazy as hell makes you lose weight? That's unfortunately not working for me, when I didn't work out for 5 months last year I unfortunately gained 10kg. Maybe I wasn't lazy enough.
You actually make it sound like you consider eating as being hard work, which would of course explain your line of thought.
On a less-agressive note: The debate between which is harder (gaining or losing) is pretty much an argument between people who have problems to control their intake and people who just eat when somebody reminds them too (taking to the extreme of course, I have actually several friends which simply forget to eat). Speed of metabolism also plays a pretty important role. Yes, people are actually different.
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On June 03 2011 19:22 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 19:05 Nightfly wrote:On June 03 2011 18:45 Anabolicqt wrote:On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Uh, it's far from simple. I'd say it's about a billion times harder than losing weight.
No On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Losing weight is easy. Gaining weight is Hard.
No Some really well-crafted arguments there. If you need to gain weight, you can't be lazy. You have to cook food, you have to go to the gym, etc. If you need to lose weight, you can be lazy as hell. That's the difference. Your line of argumentation suggests that any well-crafted argument on you would probably be wasted. But anyway: Going to the gym doesn't make you gain weight... expanding more calories than normal by working out makes you gain weight? Do you believe muscles come from thin air? Eating is what makes you gain weight. Being lazy as hell makes you lose weight? That's unfortunately not working for me, when I didn't work out for 5 months last year I unfortunately gained 10kg. Maybe I wasn't lazy enough. You actually make it sound like you consider eating as being hard work, which would of course explain your line of thought. On a less-agressive note: The debate between which is harder (gaining or losing) is pretty much an argument between people who have problems to control their intake and people who just eat when somebody reminds them too. Yes, people are actually different.
Well eating does gain you weight but, I see where the guy is coming from, Going to the gym gives you muscles, muscles are heavier than fat. so going to the gym gains you weight isn't completely incorrect
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