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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4721 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 10:48:54
June 03 2011 10:47 GMT
#221
On June 03 2011 19:25 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 19:22 Malinor wrote:
On June 03 2011 19:05 Nightfly wrote:
On June 03 2011 18:45 Anabolicqt wrote:
On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Uh, it's far from simple. I'd say it's about a billion times harder than losing weight.


No

On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Losing weight is easy. Gaining weight is Hard.


No




Some really well-crafted arguments there.

If you need to gain weight, you can't be lazy. You have to cook food, you have to go to the gym, etc. If you need to lose weight, you can be lazy as hell. That's the difference.


Your line of argumentation suggests that any well-crafted argument on you would probably be wasted. But anyway: Going to the gym doesn't make you gain weight... expanding more calories than normal by working out makes you gain weight? Do you believe muscles come from thin air? Eating is what makes you gain weight.
Being lazy as hell makes you lose weight? That's unfortunately not working for me, when I didn't work out for 5 months last year I unfortunately gained 10kg. Maybe I wasn't lazy enough.
You actually make it sound like you consider eating as being hard work, which would of course explain your line of thought.

On a less-agressive note: The debate between which is harder (gaining or losing) is pretty much an argument between people who have problems to control their intake and people who just eat when somebody reminds them too. Yes, people are actually different.

Well eating does gain you weight but, I see where the guy is coming from, Going to the gym gives you muscles, muscles are heavier than fat. so going to the gym gains you weight isn't completely incorrect


First, I apologize for coming off as a dick, the internet does this to us sometimes.

To the point: Of course I understand what he means. But you cannot build any muscle if you don't eat, you could train 24/7 every day. The body needs energy to build those muscles, and if you don't eat and are at some single-digit bodyfat-percentage, where should this energy come from?

As a bigger guy myself, I often here "you just have to eat less", and that can be extremely annoying, but it is also entirely true. So on the opposite end of the spectrum to all those thin nerds out there: If you want to gain weight, you have to eat more, probably a lot more. You can only blame your metabolism for so long (again: exactly the same as for fat people).
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Nightfly
Profile Joined May 2011
150 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 11:09:21
June 03 2011 11:08 GMT
#222
On June 03 2011 19:47 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 19:25 Blasterion wrote:
On June 03 2011 19:22 Malinor wrote:
On June 03 2011 19:05 Nightfly wrote:
On June 03 2011 18:45 Anabolicqt wrote:
On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Uh, it's far from simple. I'd say it's about a billion times harder than losing weight.


No

On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Losing weight is easy. Gaining weight is Hard.


No




Some really well-crafted arguments there.

If you need to gain weight, you can't be lazy. You have to cook food, you have to go to the gym, etc. If you need to lose weight, you can be lazy as hell. That's the difference.


Your line of argumentation suggests that any well-crafted argument on you would probably be wasted. But anyway: Going to the gym doesn't make you gain weight... expanding more calories than normal by working out makes you gain weight? Do you believe muscles come from thin air? Eating is what makes you gain weight.
Being lazy as hell makes you lose weight? That's unfortunately not working for me, when I didn't work out for 5 months last year I unfortunately gained 10kg. Maybe I wasn't lazy enough.
You actually make it sound like you consider eating as being hard work, which would of course explain your line of thought.

On a less-agressive note: The debate between which is harder (gaining or losing) is pretty much an argument between people who have problems to control their intake and people who just eat when somebody reminds them too. Yes, people are actually different.

Well eating does gain you weight but, I see where the guy is coming from, Going to the gym gives you muscles, muscles are heavier than fat. so going to the gym gains you weight isn't completely incorrect


First, I apologize for coming off as a dick, the internet does this to us sometimes.

To the point: Of course I understand what he means. But you cannot build any muscle if you don't eat, you could train 24/7 every day. The body needs energy to build those muscles, and if you don't eat and are at some single-digit bodyfat-percentage, where should this energy come from?

As a bigger guy myself, I often here "you just have to eat less", and that can be extremely annoying, but it is also entirely true. So on the opposite end of the spectrum to all those thin nerds out there: If you want to gain weight, you have to eat more, probably a lot more. You can only blame your metabolism for so long (again: exactly the same as for fat people).


When did I say you only have to go to the gym to gain weight? Please quote me on that.

Or go ahead and build strawmen to fight against....
euroboy
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden536 Posts
June 03 2011 11:23 GMT
#223
On June 03 2011 20:08 Nightfly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 19:47 Malinor wrote:
On June 03 2011 19:25 Blasterion wrote:
On June 03 2011 19:22 Malinor wrote:
On June 03 2011 19:05 Nightfly wrote:
On June 03 2011 18:45 Anabolicqt wrote:
On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Uh, it's far from simple. I'd say it's about a billion times harder than losing weight.


No

On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Losing weight is easy. Gaining weight is Hard.


No




Some really well-crafted arguments there.

If you need to gain weight, you can't be lazy. You have to cook food, you have to go to the gym, etc. If you need to lose weight, you can be lazy as hell. That's the difference.


Your line of argumentation suggests that any well-crafted argument on you would probably be wasted. But anyway: Going to the gym doesn't make you gain weight... expanding more calories than normal by working out makes you gain weight? Do you believe muscles come from thin air? Eating is what makes you gain weight.
Being lazy as hell makes you lose weight? That's unfortunately not working for me, when I didn't work out for 5 months last year I unfortunately gained 10kg. Maybe I wasn't lazy enough.
You actually make it sound like you consider eating as being hard work, which would of course explain your line of thought.

On a less-agressive note: The debate between which is harder (gaining or losing) is pretty much an argument between people who have problems to control their intake and people who just eat when somebody reminds them too. Yes, people are actually different.

Well eating does gain you weight but, I see where the guy is coming from, Going to the gym gives you muscles, muscles are heavier than fat. so going to the gym gains you weight isn't completely incorrect


First, I apologize for coming off as a dick, the internet does this to us sometimes.

To the point: Of course I understand what he means. But you cannot build any muscle if you don't eat, you could train 24/7 every day. The body needs energy to build those muscles, and if you don't eat and are at some single-digit bodyfat-percentage, where should this energy come from?

As a bigger guy myself, I often here "you just have to eat less", and that can be extremely annoying, but it is also entirely true. So on the opposite end of the spectrum to all those thin nerds out there: If you want to gain weight, you have to eat more, probably a lot more. You can only blame your metabolism for so long (again: exactly the same as for fat people).


When did I say you only have to go to the gym to gain weight? Please quote me on that.

Or go ahead and build strawmen to fight against....


I'm with you man, gaining weight THE RIGHT WAY is way harder than losing weight. I mean, take a walk, eat less carbs, bam you lose weight.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15325 Posts
June 03 2011 11:34 GMT
#224
On June 03 2011 20:08 Nightfly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 19:47 Malinor wrote:
On June 03 2011 19:25 Blasterion wrote:
On June 03 2011 19:22 Malinor wrote:
On June 03 2011 19:05 Nightfly wrote:
On June 03 2011 18:45 Anabolicqt wrote:
On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Uh, it's far from simple. I'd say it's about a billion times harder than losing weight.


No

On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Losing weight is easy. Gaining weight is Hard.


No




Some really well-crafted arguments there.

If you need to gain weight, you can't be lazy. You have to cook food, you have to go to the gym, etc. If you need to lose weight, you can be lazy as hell. That's the difference.


Your line of argumentation suggests that any well-crafted argument on you would probably be wasted. But anyway: Going to the gym doesn't make you gain weight... expanding more calories than normal by working out makes you gain weight? Do you believe muscles come from thin air? Eating is what makes you gain weight.
Being lazy as hell makes you lose weight? That's unfortunately not working for me, when I didn't work out for 5 months last year I unfortunately gained 10kg. Maybe I wasn't lazy enough.
You actually make it sound like you consider eating as being hard work, which would of course explain your line of thought.

On a less-agressive note: The debate between which is harder (gaining or losing) is pretty much an argument between people who have problems to control their intake and people who just eat when somebody reminds them too. Yes, people are actually different.

Well eating does gain you weight but, I see where the guy is coming from, Going to the gym gives you muscles, muscles are heavier than fat. so going to the gym gains you weight isn't completely incorrect

First, I apologize for coming off as a dick, the internet does this to us sometimes.

To the point: Of course I understand what he means. But you cannot build any muscle if you don't eat, you could train 24/7 every day. The body needs energy to build those muscles, and if you don't eat and are at some single-digit bodyfat-percentage, where should this energy come from?

As a bigger guy myself, I often here "you just have to eat less", and that can be extremely annoying, but it is also entirely true. So on the opposite end of the spectrum to all those thin nerds out there: If you want to gain weight, you have to eat more, probably a lot more. You can only blame your metabolism for so long (again: exactly the same as for fat people).

When did I say you only have to go to the gym to gain weight? Please quote me on that.

Or go ahead and build strawmen to fight against....

You still said gaining weight is harder than losing weight. And that is just not correct and depends enterily on the individual person.
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Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
June 03 2011 11:51 GMT
#225
On June 03 2011 20:34 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 20:08 Nightfly wrote:
On June 03 2011 19:47 Malinor wrote:
On June 03 2011 19:25 Blasterion wrote:
On June 03 2011 19:22 Malinor wrote:
On June 03 2011 19:05 Nightfly wrote:
On June 03 2011 18:45 Anabolicqt wrote:
On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Uh, it's far from simple. I'd say it's about a billion times harder than losing weight.


No

On June 03 2011 18:36 Nightfly wrote:
Losing weight is easy. Gaining weight is Hard.


No




Some really well-crafted arguments there.

If you need to gain weight, you can't be lazy. You have to cook food, you have to go to the gym, etc. If you need to lose weight, you can be lazy as hell. That's the difference.


Your line of argumentation suggests that any well-crafted argument on you would probably be wasted. But anyway: Going to the gym doesn't make you gain weight... expanding more calories than normal by working out makes you gain weight? Do you believe muscles come from thin air? Eating is what makes you gain weight.
Being lazy as hell makes you lose weight? That's unfortunately not working for me, when I didn't work out for 5 months last year I unfortunately gained 10kg. Maybe I wasn't lazy enough.
You actually make it sound like you consider eating as being hard work, which would of course explain your line of thought.

On a less-agressive note: The debate between which is harder (gaining or losing) is pretty much an argument between people who have problems to control their intake and people who just eat when somebody reminds them too. Yes, people are actually different.

Well eating does gain you weight but, I see where the guy is coming from, Going to the gym gives you muscles, muscles are heavier than fat. so going to the gym gains you weight isn't completely incorrect

First, I apologize for coming off as a dick, the internet does this to us sometimes.

To the point: Of course I understand what he means. But you cannot build any muscle if you don't eat, you could train 24/7 every day. The body needs energy to build those muscles, and if you don't eat and are at some single-digit bodyfat-percentage, where should this energy come from?

As a bigger guy myself, I often here "you just have to eat less", and that can be extremely annoying, but it is also entirely true. So on the opposite end of the spectrum to all those thin nerds out there: If you want to gain weight, you have to eat more, probably a lot more. You can only blame your metabolism for so long (again: exactly the same as for fat people).

When did I say you only have to go to the gym to gain weight? Please quote me on that.

Or go ahead and build strawmen to fight against....

You still said gaining weight is harder than losing weight. And that is just not correct and depends enterily on the individual person.

Gaining weight (fat) is easier than losing weight (fat), I agree. BUT gaining lean body mass (muscle) is 4x harder than losing same amount in fat. That is what Nightfly was saying in the first place.

You can lose 1kg fat a week with proper training/nutrition (and keep most of your muscles). But to gain 1kg (and this is generously speaking for an average person) of lean muscle you need a good month with proper training/nutrition/rest.
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
June 03 2011 13:15 GMT
#226
I can't fully agree with the OP on his nutritional advice. Less protein powder, more food. You also need a source of dietary fat. It is a fallacy that dietary fat = body fat. Fat is calorie dense however. Dietary fat is needed to be healthy.
Never give up, never surrender!!! ~~ Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence -Sagan
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
June 03 2011 13:42 GMT
#227

On June 03 2011 09:18 Cold-Blood wrote:
Second: I resent the above statement about marathon runners having week bodies. This is not true in that many distance runners have very well built and toned bodies. Coming from a runner, Haile is not only just a small person in general, but is older and compared to the second picture of a quite younger person, it is a very biased statement and untrue.

Please do post a picture of a marathon runner that looks normal. And sorry if I have upset anyone with this but I don't know how to state it any nicer.


Man, of all the people you could bash you choose Haile Gebrselassie, who happens to pretty much be the most badass distance runner of all time

Yes, obviously elite marathoners are lean, you aren't going to race well with excess bodyfat everywhere. That said they are exceptionally healthy. Its honestly pretty sad that we as a society are so conditioned to overweight and obesity that we can look at an exceptionally healthy elite endurance athlete and view them as weak or unhealthy. That marathon weight IS normal and it IS healthy.

Now about the body itself. Your not going to end up with a body like that, even if you eat a terrible, overly restricted diet calorically. Elite marathoners have that look for a few reasons. One is that the extreme ectomorph body shape is genetically good for marathoning. Lets not forget, most elite marathoners are competing somewhere between 5-8% body fat. Yes, thats lean, but is also more than within the healthy range of 2-3% essential body fat. Morever, aside from the fact that elite marathoners aren't generally genetically disposed to large gains in mass, none of them train for mass. The degree of strength training done varies greatly from athlete to athlete, but obviously none of them are going to put on alot of muscle because they aren't trying to gain weight and aren't going to consume the caloric surplus necessary for mass gains.

I wouldn't be shocked in the least if Haile had an equal or higher BF% to Greene as seen in that picture. He doesn't have the same muscle mass because for one he simply doesn't want it and additionally doesn't have a body type anywhere near as predisposed to mass gain as Greene.

The problem I have hear is that weak marathoner body was thrown out and made to sound very negative or even unhealthy, which couldn't be further from the truth. You have to be pretty damn healthy to tolerate the demands of running 150+ miles per week and not break down. As far as a marathon runner who looks "normal" look no further than the picture you posted. That is a completely healthy and natural body shape for Haile, and it really shows how out of touch our society is as far as a natural, healthy look that people can look at a runner like Haile and say he doesn't look normal.

It's worth mentioning that elite runners are also quite a bit faster, and stronger, than many might think. Alot of people I know are always surprised when they hear elite runner strength stats or sprint times.
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oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2904 Posts
June 03 2011 13:46 GMT
#228
Awesome guide, thanks very much.
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SluGGer
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada50 Posts
June 03 2011 13:57 GMT
#229
Also I meant to add. Trying not to eat 4 hours before going to bed is far to long of a gap. If you don't eat 4 hours before bed. And then sleep 8 hours that's 12 hours without food and your body will have indeed enterted a catabolic state (breaking down muscle) people are afraid of eating close to bedtime because they think they will gain weight or get fat. Your body burns the exact same amount of calories per minute sleeping as awake. Trying not to eat an hour before bed is more than enough time. In fact depending on your needs I.e if you're looking to shed fat/gain muscle I even suggest having a slow metablozing protein powder beside your bed like casein. And if you wake up in the middle of the night you can have some of it to keep your muscles in an anabolic state (muscle growing/recovery)
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Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
June 03 2011 14:21 GMT
#230
On June 03 2011 22:57 SluGGer wrote:
Also I meant to add. Trying not to eat 4 hours before going to bed is far to long of a gap. If you don't eat 4 hours before bed. And then sleep 8 hours that's 12 hours without food and your body will have indeed enterted a catabolic state (breaking down muscle) people are afraid of eating close to bedtime because they think they will gain weight or get fat. Your body burns the exact same amount of calories per minute sleeping as awake. Trying not to eat an hour before bed is more than enough time. In fact depending on your needs I.e if you're looking to shed fat/gain muscle I even suggest having a slow metablozing protein powder beside your bed like casein. And if you wake up in the middle of the night you can have some of it to keep your muscles in an anabolic state (muscle growing/recovery)


I wasn't going to post here but...

While the motivation story is nice to hear, and I won't hate on you for your caloric intake or the way you did it, the thread is filled with tons of misinformation. For example, the above quote is completely false.

First of all, let us use some common sense. If you are awake, the chances of you doing something active are increased a lot. Something as simple as walking will obviously take more calories than laying on your back in a resting state. Furthermore, as you go into a deep sleep your organs slow down because they don't have to work as much. Your heart rate slows, your breathing slows, ect. I bet you didn't notice your breathing until just now, but it has been at a steady rate that would be greater than during sleep. This is obvious...

Your muscles don't magically go into a catabolic state like that. But instead of posting the reasons why, I will post a link that includes (linked) studies that you can read if you so desire and actually learn what goes on, instead of "Well, I heard it from this guy..."

Leangains Top 10 Fasting Myths

The website is full of great information that will prove a lot of this fitness bullshit wrong because well, it is.
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forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
June 04 2011 00:29 GMT
#231
On June 03 2011 17:38 Balfazar wrote:
This thread is overly scientific, it doesn't deal with the real challenge of weight loss, the mental aspect. I've lost 15kg over the last few months after being overweight for 2 years, and for the second half of that period I was trying to lose weight. It wasn't the lack of genius diets or exercise regimens that caused me to fail for that year.

You need to develop a motivation to lose weight, based on some tangible goals, and sustain that motivation even when your weight loss slows after initial rapid gains. The greater your motivation the more extreme a change you can endure. Without that motivation you will fail in the long run.


I apologize for not including a 200 page paper on mindset in my guide, I'll make sure to do that next time.

In all seriousness, there's a reason I recommend reading books on mindset/motivation in my Tips/tricks section.
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atrocity3010
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
70 Posts
June 04 2011 09:20 GMT
#232
On June 03 2011 19:11 switchdev wrote:
One thing I'd warn for when going for weightloss is to carefully listen to your body when it comes to exercise. When you're overweight a schedule where you're running 10-30 mins every day can wreck your knees/ankles if you don't take enough rest. It's easy to trick yourself into thinking it's fine when you're very determined to lose weight and you'll just keep going. At some point you'll injure yourself and you won't be able to do any running for weeks.

Instead I'd suggest to alternate between cardio and weight training every day. For example - you walk/jog on mondays, do situps/pushups etc on tuesdays - back to walk/jog on wednesdays. This'll allow your body to recover from the exercises for an extra day (which is huge), and you'll still be active every day.


I tried doing something similar to this, the only problem is I did the pushups/situps 2 days ago and I'm still sore as hell from it, so I don't know when I'll be able to do them again.

Is that a sign of pushing it too hard or is it natural to be sore for that long?
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
June 04 2011 14:26 GMT
#233
On June 04 2011 18:20 atrocity3010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 19:11 switchdev wrote:
One thing I'd warn for when going for weightloss is to carefully listen to your body when it comes to exercise. When you're overweight a schedule where you're running 10-30 mins every day can wreck your knees/ankles if you don't take enough rest. It's easy to trick yourself into thinking it's fine when you're very determined to lose weight and you'll just keep going. At some point you'll injure yourself and you won't be able to do any running for weeks.

Instead I'd suggest to alternate between cardio and weight training every day. For example - you walk/jog on mondays, do situps/pushups etc on tuesdays - back to walk/jog on wednesdays. This'll allow your body to recover from the exercises for an extra day (which is huge), and you'll still be active every day.


I tried doing something similar to this, the only problem is I did the pushups/situps 2 days ago and I'm still sore as hell from it, so I don't know when I'll be able to do them again.

Is that a sign of pushing it too hard or is it natural to be sore for that long?


Always happens to me the first time if I haven't done strength stuff in a while. After that first new round I usually just get a tiny bit sore for maybe a day.
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Geordie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom653 Posts
June 04 2011 18:00 GMT
#234
I dont see why there is such a big deal about losing weight, all you have to do is give yourself smaller portions, maybe go to the gym a bit ( not nessecary ) but thats all you have to do.
matko5
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia385 Posts
June 04 2011 18:04 GMT
#235
I'm following a diet plan similar to the one in the OP. I've lost over 30 pounds and still going down. It's been going on for 5 months now, since the New Year's Eve. I'm also going to gym regulary, lifting heavy. My impression so far: I feel great, I can run and jump more, am faster and much stronger.
Disi gazda
WyghtWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Israel145 Posts
June 04 2011 23:34 GMT
#236
On June 02 2011 08:23 Morteth wrote:
I hope nobody sees this as a plug. This does pertain to weight loss, and I'm just informing of my way, how I managed to do it. I guess its a bit like cheating, although I think it has to do with working intelligently, so you work less.

Structured water is biophysical equal to spring water. In fact, it IS spring water. Since it is organized, it hydrates better, and assimilates nutrients better. I also was able to successfully stop my masterbation addiction with this. (for people who aren't aware, 3+ a week will lead to chronic inflammation, and lead to adrenal fatigue and hormonal imbalances + more)

The water is also anti-pathogenic, so quite literally I can go out right now, have sex with a hooker, contract AIDS and the AIDS virus will die. This water has successfully cured AIDS. No joke, study is here.
“The Physiological Effect of MRET Activated Water on Patients Suffering from AIDS” by Igor Smirnov, Ph. D., Explore Magazine, Vol. 15, No 2, 2006, USA.

Your body is made up of water in two forms, Intra-Cellular (fluid inside the cells) and Extra-Cellular (fluid outside the cells). All energy comes from the water in your cells. Being hydrated in your cells is what will give you that energy and performance you need and are looking for.

Accelerated hydration
Increased oxygenation
Muscles producing more power
Increased endurance
Less cramping in muscles
No “sloshing” feeling in the gut
Faster recovery
Enhanced nutritional supplement absorption
Helps detoxify
Serves as a powerful anti-oxidant
Promotes cellular communication

Honestly half of you will disregard this or flame it but I've never felt happier, stronger, and more positive in my life. I'm also at a point where I'm going to run a marathon. And I used to weigh 240 pounds 6 months ago. You guys might say that is a lot of weight to lose in a short time and things might be a bit excessive but with your body mass being so much water and having all your water being structured, it simply makes everything you do more efficient. I feel more mentally aware, more mentally acute and I actually don't even get mad any more. I am more patient and I was always a very impulsive person as a child.

Before you discredit this, simply check out these websites for reference. I'm pretty sure if you are going to take a supplement, take this. It isn't a supplement exactly, but it makes EVERYTHING you do with your body MORE efficient. Its logical. Why work harder, for less.

Studies on this water

http://www.cocoonnutrition.org/catalog/page_MRET.php

http://www.all3sports.com/product_info.php?pName=base-performance-nutrition-base-water&jsenabled=1&osCsid=8e302f61558269c8a0f5cb7835f42fcf

http://ferrisholding.com/structuredwater.html






sounds like an ad for a product which actually does nothing at all, and is simply tap water with an expensive price tag.

Even when having sex with someone who's infected with AIDS, even if it's unprotected, there's quite a chance that you WON'T get infected.

Also, over 3 jerk offs a week causes inflamation/hormonal imbalances/adrenal gland fatigue?
let's start with the fact that the last one is complete bullocks. the adrenal gland doesn't get fatigued. they could get inflamed and enlarged due to over use, but masturbation won't cause it.
try hopping off planes several times a day + bungee jumping + every other kind of extreme sport, and you still won't get a major increase in adrenaline/nurepinaphrine production(maybe like a tiny difference, but it's microscopic).

Not sure if they sell bottled tap water where you live or regular spring water(mind snapping a shot of the ingerdients/contents/nutritional value tag on the back?), but we get spring water here(pretty much the only benefit to living in a freaking dessert war zone...), and it's nothing special.
I much preffer eathing a shit ton of fruit than drinking water, since the water causes me to puke if i drink more than a mouthful faster than once an hour or so(Caused quite a bit of problems when I was in the IDF, I can tell you that).

There used to be a time when I was jerking off not three times a week, but three times a day(thank god I discovered sex two years ago), and other than very dilluted sperm(once I stopped doing that, it was gelatinous due to high sperm concentration for a while because of increased testicular work), and a sore forearm, there was absolutely no difference to my skin condition/skin condition in the loins.
I do have psoriasis, but that's limited to a tiny area between my shoulder blades, and the only thing that helped me was being in the freaking desert.

and about hormonal imbalances:
as long as you manage to bring the same amount of nutrients you lose in masturbation(mainly proteins and fats i believe), you won't have any imbalances, because the body would produce any hormones it needs to from the fresh nutrients you put in.
as I mentioned earlier, I had absolutely no hormonal imbalances during what was roughly the most important bit of puberty, other than being short(genetics) and I still turned up the highest in my family at 175CM(which i hear is translated to 5'7").

so yeah, screw your "special" water.
get sterilized water, and add the nutrients of your choice for all i care.
the only difference in water is the amount of fluoride/chlorine/E. Coli/piss/dead fish/etc are in it.

two final notes:
losing more than about 3-5(~4-12lbs) kilograms a month isn't just impossible, it's borderline disgusting.
why? because you get this:
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http://findpics.co.cc/data/2011-05-28/loose-skin-after-weight-loss.jpg

which happens when you do a liposuction, and in the same realm of losing more than a couple kilos per month.

some of the stuff you wrote sounds exactly like what the psychopath japanese person who says that water has sentience and it understands the carious crap you tell it.


To the OP:
congrats on your newfound way of life.
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mangomango
Profile Joined September 2009
United States265 Posts
June 04 2011 23:47 GMT
#237
Great read. I went through the weight loss too. I lost 35 pounds and it changed my life. Actually it gave me back my life.
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celious
Profile Joined September 2009
United States195 Posts
June 05 2011 00:07 GMT
#238
The amount of calories you intake daily is really really WRONG. 1300 is NOT HEALTHY for a male. You shouldn't be eating any less than 2000, depends on your weight and activity level. This is because your body goes into a starvation mode where your metabolism begins to slow down drastically halting weight loss or even reversing it because the body stores as much as it can what little food you eat. Not only does your metabolism drop your body begins to feed on your muscles and having muscle is important because the more you have the more calories you burn while inactive.

1300 is like the minimum for a woman.
Enderbantoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States465 Posts
June 05 2011 00:24 GMT
#239
he was saying 1300 is the minimum while being able to still live without having big problems, not 1300 to be healthy, he isnt trying to be healthy, he's trying to lose weight
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Mahs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands171 Posts
June 05 2011 00:25 GMT
#240
On June 04 2011 18:20 atrocity3010 wrote:
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On June 03 2011 19:11 switchdev wrote:
One thing I'd warn for when going for weightloss is to carefully listen to your body when it comes to exercise. When you're overweight a schedule where you're running 10-30 mins every day can wreck your knees/ankles if you don't take enough rest. It's easy to trick yourself into thinking it's fine when you're very determined to lose weight and you'll just keep going. At some point you'll injure yourself and you won't be able to do any running for weeks.

Instead I'd suggest to alternate between cardio and weight training every day. For example - you walk/jog on mondays, do situps/pushups etc on tuesdays - back to walk/jog on wednesdays. This'll allow your body to recover from the exercises for an extra day (which is huge), and you'll still be active every day.


I tried doing something similar to this, the only problem is I did the pushups/situps 2 days ago and I'm still sore as hell from it, so I don't know when I'll be able to do them again.

Is that a sign of pushing it too hard or is it natural to be sore for that long?


When a workout is keeping me very sore for more than 2 days I personally feel like I've gone too far. You feel great after that workout because you've pushed it pretty hard, but if it ends up holding you back on your next session it won't be worth it. One of the key points to losing weight is that you're able to keep up with an exercise schedule for an extended period of time, so finding out how much your body can take and how long it takes for it to recover is a great way to stay in the game.

If you're pushing your current weight training too far you can consider cutting down on the number of exercises you've been doing to see how that affects your recovery. For example doing 50 situps instead of 70 could be all you need. If you feel like that cuts out too much of your exercise, you can look at adding a few new exercises that train other muscle groups.

I've always felt like one of the hardest parts about losing weight is to manage your motivation. Once you've taken the step to work on your weight you generally want to go into it as hard as you can. An out-of-shape body can be very fragile though (especially your joints), which is risky to put too much stress on. Holding yourself back and slowly increasing exercise as you get fitter will make sure you're in it for the long run.
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