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On June 08 2011 00:01 Snapplecakes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 14:07 ScythedBlade wrote:
As for no eating 4 hours before you sleep: If you're building muscle, it might help to eat a bit of oatmeal and milk so that you lose as little muscle as possible.
The other way that HELPS a lot is to build up enough muscle so that normal burn is good enough for you to maintain a decent diet. Personally, 1300 calories a day might be meh. But 4k calories is definitely too much that you should reduce. that broscience is so outdated and wrong it hurts to read it. http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html
I read a couple of his articles, and his scoffing at contemporary dietrary science, calling people who follow it sheep, etc, and the one question I kept coming back to was why I should trust him rather than anyone else. Just because he can cite sources of his choosing and looks good doesn't make him right, plenty of people cite their own sources and look just as good as he does.
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I started P90 recently. I am at my day7 tommorow. That routine made me realize how much out of shape i was despite the fact that i was weightlifting at home on a regular basis. Basicly for those that don't know it's a program provided by beachbody.com that divide your weeks in program exercices where you workout 6 days on 7.
Sculpt 1-2 on Mo,We,Fr: Dumbbells, pushups, quads, stretching. That lasts a whole 30 minute. I underestimated that program, how wrong i was ;-) - I had to change weight and do my best to keep up - very intense as there is only 30 sec break during whole exerice
Sweat 1-2/Abdo100Burner on Tu, Th, Sa (Yoga power, cardio, basic full contact: kick, punches, knees and for finishing 10 different sets of abdos 10 reps each. That lasts 40 minutes.
This goes on and on untill your rest day that happens on Sunday.
I'm also on a strict diet (1300-1500 kcal a day - 2.5 liter water).
I was wondering to whomever reading/contributing to this thread has got experience with anything related to beachbody.com and the P90 program!?
I'm good for it and hope to post awesome results with before/after picture in 90 days!
PS: If anyone wanna look for some p90 results, make a quick reseach on youtube, there are some very IMPRESSIVE results!
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Hey what do you guys think of this diet? It's what I'm doing right now, and I feel constantly hungry, doesn't mean I stay hungry but I do eat often in small portions like you guys are suggesting.
so i wake up
8:00 I eat 2 eggs
10 or 10:30 I get hungry and eat a cup of plain yogurt
12 or 1 I have skinless chicken breast and lettuce
3 I eat more yogurt
6 I eat more chicken and lettuce
7 - 8 I work out a little, 30 of pushups, curls, and 30 minutes of running
9 I'm tired and hungry as hell
I play games til 12 to forget about the hunger and yell at people whenever they mention food lol. I've slipped two times so far and allowed myself to eat a bowl of rice a can of vienna sausage =_=.
any tips or comments on this? i feel like I'm doing this wrong, and jesus christ the hunger I feel at night is unbearable, especially a day after I screw up the diet. But good news is that I FEEL slimmer, and not as congested. My skin is great too I didn't realize how good salad was for your skin.
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On June 28 2011 07:33 Snuggles wrote:
Hey what do you guys think of this diet? It's what I'm doing right now, and I feel constantly hungry, doesn't mean I stay hungry but I do eat often in small portions like you guys are suggesting.
so i wake up
8:00 I eat 2 eggs
10 or 10:30 I get hungry and eat a cup of plain yogurt
12 or 1 I have skinless chicken breast and lettuce
3 I eat more yogurt
6 I eat more chicken and lettuce
7 - 8 I work out a little, 30 of pushups, curls, and 30 minutes of running
9 I'm tired and hungry as hell
I play games til 12 to forget about the hunger and yell at people whenever they mention food lol. I've slipped two times so far and allowed myself to eat a bowl of rice a can of vienna sausage =_=.
any tips or comments on this? i feel like I'm doing this wrong, and jesus christ the hunger I feel at night is unbearable, especially a day after I screw up the diet. But good news is that I FEEL slimmer, and not as congested. My skin is great too I didn't realize how good salad was for your skin.
How many calories is that?
I'd advice against "diets" though.
Go to a site with a calorie calculator, calculate what how many calories you need per day and eat 500kcal less.
You cannot be constantly hungry. That's your body going into starvation mode in which it doesn't burn calories anymore and slows down regeneration.
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Raw almonds is my suggestion. A handful of them is a healthy snack that will make you FEEL full and provide a lot of well documented benefits although they do have highish fat content(just google and you'll see). That said, if weight loss is your goal the 9-bed area should probably remain empty - you'll get used to it. Playing games to take your mind off it is a good idea though.
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I'm not too sure exactly how many calories it is, but 900 - 1000 calories would be a very safe bet though it could be a little less since the chicken salad meals are plain and in light portions.
I mean I get hungry right as the time for me to eat again come along. So after eating two eggs I will start feeling hungry right as it is 9:55 AM or so right before my next meal time. Is that the right way of going about it or no?
I just finished eating my chicken salad so I feel good now but i know after i'm done working out I'll be soooo hungry ;_;. It's not as bad as when I first started the diet 3 weeks ago (I would wake up at 6 in the morning to the sound of my stomach growling lol) but I really hope the feeling of nagging hunger will go away for good.
Weight loss is my goal I'm only slightly chubby so I just need to lose 10lbs so do you guys think I should substitute the plain yogurt for anything special like protein stuff?
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Thanks for the thread. It's inspiring.
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Honestly I think the worst thing you can do for someone who is trying to get in shape, is to tell them to eat less. Sure they will lose weight, but they will also feel like shit. Start with weight training & light cardio, try to eat more healthy but not necessarily less calories right away. If you are out of shape you want to be putting on muscle, period. More muscle burns more calories passively, will make you feel better & have more energy and strength for more training. Cutting calories from your diet will make you feel tired & dissatisfied, making it even more difficult to muster up said motivation. I would focus on healthy meals that make you feel full, ensuring that you get plenty of protein, but not necessarily less calories until you start getting some muscle. Then as time goes on you will see an increase in energy which allows you to stay motivated. The increase in metabolism & energy consumption from weight training is an extremely effective tool for burning off fat. Once you have a good muscle base, you can start to work more cardio into your routine, circuit training is great for a good balanced strength/cardio workout. I would only really "diet" or "cut calories" once I had all of the muscle I wanted.
TL;DR: Don't eat less calories, eat more protein & gain muscle via weight training. Do some cardio as well, it will help increase your metabolism. Don't worry about losing fat via diet until you've got all of the muscle you want. The increased metabolism & muscle mass will be invaluable for staying motivated and losing weight in the long run.
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On June 28 2011 08:39 Wr3k wrote:
Honestly I think the worst thing you can do for someone who is trying to get in shape, is to tell them to eat less. Start with weight training & light cardio, try to eat more healthy but not necessarily less calories right away. If you are out of shape you want to be putting on muscle, period. More muscle burns more calories passively, will make you feel better & have more energy and strength for more training. Cutting calories from your diet will make you feel tired & dissatisfied, making it even more difficult to muster up said motivation. I would focus on healthy meals that make you feel full, ensuring that you get plenty of protein, but not necessarily less calories until you start getting some muscle. Then as time goes on you will see an increase in energy which allows you to stay motivated. The increase in metabolism & energy consumption from weight training is an extremely effective tool for burning off fat. Once you have a good muscle base, you can start to work more cardio into your routine, circuit training is great for a good balanced strength/cardio workout. I would only really "diet" or "cut calories" once I had all of the muscle I wanted.
TL;DR: Don't eat less calories, eat more protein & gain muscle via weight training. Do some cardio as well, it will help increase your metabolism. Don't worry about losing fat via diet until you've got all of the muscle you want. The increased metabolism & muscle mass will be invaluable for staying motivated and losing weight in the long run.
Hey Wr3k, still remember your stream from beta ^^
Your advice is good, I'd give the same one. Just make sure you don't overcompensate for your increased metabolism by just eating more and more, rather stay about the same.
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I fucked up my back while skating a while ago (it's fixed now) but I completely stopped exercising during this entire time, (6 weeks ish) and now I'm not feeling motivated at all to start exercising. Taking up smoking (I know, bad) has really fucked my lungs as well, I get out of breath doing like 70 press ups, which makes me not want to do any (I haven't tried any other forms of exercise since). Should I do cardio first to get my lungs back before going back to strength training? I've got 2 weeks of healthy eating and stuff before I go back to uni and start messing myself up again.
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1240 calories is hilariously bad
starving yourself to lose weight and muscle isn't healthy
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On June 28 2011 07:33 Snuggles wrote:
Hey what do you guys think of this diet? It's what I'm doing right now, and I feel constantly hungry, doesn't mean I stay hungry but I do eat often in small portions like you guys are suggesting.
so i wake up
8:00 I eat 2 eggs
10 or 10:30 I get hungry and eat a cup of plain yogurt
12 or 1 I have skinless chicken breast and lettuce
3 I eat more yogurt
6 I eat more chicken and lettuce
7 - 8 I work out a little, 30 of pushups, curls, and 30 minutes of running
9 I'm tired and hungry as hell
I play games til 12 to forget about the hunger and yell at people whenever they mention food lol. I've slipped two times so far and allowed myself to eat a bowl of rice a can of vienna sausage =_=.
any tips or comments on this? i feel like I'm doing this wrong, and jesus christ the hunger I feel at night is unbearable, especially a day after I screw up the diet. But good news is that I FEEL slimmer, and not as congested. My skin is great too I didn't realize how good salad was for your skin.
No reason to eat often and in small portions if you don't want to, theres no benefit to say 6 meals a day vs 3. That hardly looks like any calories at all, i would at least double it. If you're feeling hungry then get more fats and proteins in your diet (beef, whole eggs, walnuts, etc)
On June 12 2011 05:52 CaM27 wrote:
I started P90 recently. I am at my day7 tommorow. That routine made me realize how much out of shape i was despite the fact that i was weightlifting at home on a regular basis. Basicly for those that don't know it's a program provided by beachbody.com that divide your weeks in program exercices where you workout 6 days on 7.
Sculpt 1-2 on Mo,We,Fr: Dumbbells, pushups, quads, stretching. That lasts a whole 30 minute. I underestimated that program, how wrong i was ;-) - I had to change weight and do my best to keep up - very intense as there is only 30 sec break during whole exerice
Sweat 1-2/Abdo100Burner on Tu, Th, Sa (Yoga power, cardio, basic full contact: kick, punches, knees and for finishing 10 different sets of abdos 10 reps each. That lasts 40 minutes.
This goes on and on untill your rest day that happens on Sunday.
I'm also on a strict diet (1300-1500 kcal a day - 2.5 liter water).
I was wondering to whomever reading/contributing to this thread has got experience with anything related to beachbody.com and the P90 program!?
I'm good for it and hope to post awesome results with before/after picture in 90 days!
PS: If anyone wanna look for some p90 results, make a quick reseach on youtube, there are some very IMPRESSIVE results!
1300-1500 calories is about maintenance for a sedentary 100 pound girl. If you're a male doing vigorous exercise 6 days a week that is WAAAAAY too low.
P90x is alright for conditioning, but not a very efficient program in many senses. It's main benefit is that it gets people on a routine of working out and eating healthier which will give almost anyone impressive, but probably not optimal, results. You would see better results with heavy compound weight training (squats, deadlifts, etc) just 3 times a week for ~1 hour in terms of changing your body composition. If you enjoy p90x and you're seeing the results you want then go for it.
On June 11 2011 23:41 Osmoses wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 00:01 Snapplecakes wrote:On June 05 2011 14:07 ScythedBlade wrote:
As for no eating 4 hours before you sleep: If you're building muscle, it might help to eat a bit of oatmeal and milk so that you lose as little muscle as possible.
The other way that HELPS a lot is to build up enough muscle so that normal burn is good enough for you to maintain a decent diet. Personally, 1300 calories a day might be meh. But 4k calories is definitely too much that you should reduce. that broscience is so outdated and wrong it hurts to read it. http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html I read a couple of his articles, and his scoffing at contemporary dietrary science, calling people who follow it sheep, etc, and the one question I kept coming back to was why I should trust him rather than anyone else. Just because he can cite sources of his choosing and looks good doesn't make him right, plenty of people cite their own sources and look just as good as he does.
Ask him yourself, shoot him a PM, he's an avid starcraft player and a member of this site.
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On June 28 2011 08:56 TzTz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 08:39 Wr3k wrote:
Honestly I think the worst thing you can do for someone who is trying to get in shape, is to tell them to eat less. Start with weight training & light cardio, try to eat more healthy but not necessarily less calories right away. If you are out of shape you want to be putting on muscle, period. More muscle burns more calories passively, will make you feel better & have more energy and strength for more training. Cutting calories from your diet will make you feel tired & dissatisfied, making it even more difficult to muster up said motivation. I would focus on healthy meals that make you feel full, ensuring that you get plenty of protein, but not necessarily less calories until you start getting some muscle. Then as time goes on you will see an increase in energy which allows you to stay motivated. The increase in metabolism & energy consumption from weight training is an extremely effective tool for burning off fat. Once you have a good muscle base, you can start to work more cardio into your routine, circuit training is great for a good balanced strength/cardio workout. I would only really "diet" or "cut calories" once I had all of the muscle I wanted.
TL;DR: Don't eat less calories, eat more protein & gain muscle via weight training. Do some cardio as well, it will help increase your metabolism. Don't worry about losing fat via diet until you've got all of the muscle you want. The increased metabolism & muscle mass will be invaluable for staying motivated and losing weight in the long run. Hey Wr3k, still remember your stream from beta ^^ Your advice is good, I'd give the same one. Just make sure you don't overcompensate for your increased metabolism by just eating more and more, rather stay about the same.
Yeah I agree, its easy to overeat after training & you definitely want to watch that, which is why I like to emphasize lots of protein. You will feel more full. I just can't emphasize enough that if you are cutting calories like mad you will feel like shit, making it increasingly difficult to stay motivated & improve your fitness. Sure you will lose weight, but being healthy is a lifestyle, not an 8 week plan. If your goal is to drop fat as fast as possible while feeling like a wreck, then yeah, eat less. If your goal is to feel good, look good, and be physically fit. Cutting calories is not the right way to go about it imo.
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That's some good comforting advice, but it sounds like easy way out to me. So the diet I've been on right now isn't the right way to go about with things?
From what I'm reading are you saying that I should just eat tons of healthy food so that all I'm doing is substituting the food I had eaten before with just protein and veggies??
I'm just so confused now sorry =( The way I'm eating right now is really hard to stick to but I feel like the results will speak for themselves when I get to my goal of losing 10lbs. I was planning from that point on i would eat more and start trying to build some muscles after I "look" like I'm in shape.
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honestly the op's heart is in the right place but his advice is absolutely terrible and should not be followed or even considered
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On June 28 2011 09:09 n3gative wrote:
honestly the op's heart is in the right place but his advice is absolutely terrible and should not be followed or even considered
God now I am really confused. I came up with my little diet based off what the OP was saying... Maybe I should just comb through all 14 pages of this thread to get the right facts =_=
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On June 28 2011 09:04 Snuggles wrote:
That's some good comforting advice, but it sounds like easy way out to me. So the diet I've been on right now isn't the right way to go about with things?
From what I'm reading are you saying that I should just eat tons of healthy food so that all I'm doing is substituting the food I had eaten before with just protein and veggies??
I'm just so confused now sorry =( The way I'm eating right now is really hard to stick to but I feel like the results will speak for themselves when I get to my goal of losing 10lbs. I was planning from that point on i would eat more and start trying to build some muscles after I "look" like I'm in shape.
Just avoid processed foods and eat meat + veggies + fruits (dairy optional) until you feel ~75% full at each meal. At the end of the day go to www.fitday.com and check out your calorie #s and compare it to your BMR (basal metabolic rate, google it for a calculator).
Eating clean and getting on a compound weight training program (read: starting strength program) immediately will yield infinitely better results than starving yourself till you lose 10 pounds and then attempting to add muscle.
The OP here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=180919
has all the information you need backed by studies.
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What happens when you are like me? You can't GAIN weight..........
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On June 28 2011 09:04 Snuggles wrote:
That's some good comforting advice, but it sounds like easy way out to me. So the diet I've been on right now isn't the right way to go about with things?
From what I'm reading are you saying that I should just eat tons of healthy food so that all I'm doing is substituting the food I had eaten before with just protein and veggies??
I'm just so confused now sorry =( The way I'm eating right now is really hard to stick to but I feel like the results will speak for themselves when I get to my goal of losing 10lbs. I was planning from that point on i would eat more and start trying to build some muscles after I "look" like I'm in shape.
Sorry I didn't read what exactly you are doing right now, but in this post it sounded like you just eat much less. The problem with that is, that your body adapts to low calory intake. The more drastic the lack of food is, the more the body will "eat" your muscle to solve two problems at once: He can save the precious fat reserves for real emergency, and he can reduce your energy consumption making you last longer through the "famine", because your muscles use up energy all the time, even while resting.
That's the cause of the problem many people have: You lose weight and then you eat normal again, but you lost so much muscle (and your body reduces your metabolism overall) that the food intake that once kept you at a steady-state now let's you shoot up in weight even beyond where you were, just with even less muscle than before.
I'd look into the mirror more then on my scale. 10lbs means nothing per se.
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Dunno if this is the right place but i've seen some people swear that chipotle(burrito bowl) is a good healthy alternative to fast food when your on a diet.
Can anyone confirm this?
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