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msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
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July 22 2011 17:19 GMT
#721
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msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
July 22 2011 17:21 GMT
#722
oh and
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of course
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
July 22 2011 18:48 GMT
#723
On July 23 2011 01:54 flowSthead wrote:
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On July 22 2011 03:25 Perscienter wrote:
Gaius Baltar

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Also not a villain. Gaius is weak and manipulated, but he never actively tries to harm the humans or the Battlestar Galactica. Even his stint as President on New Caprica where he was making deals with the Cylons were for his other humans protection. All of those are signs of weakness, but not villainy.

  • Granted access to the security main-frame to a spy, which caused almost the complete annihilation of the human species.
  • Constantly tried to cover up this involvement to escape prosecution.
  • Covered up, that one pilot was actually a hostile sleeper agent, which led to the assassination of the Commander.
  • Caused the death of a guard on the Pegasus.
  • Gave away a nuclear warhead to a Cylon, lol. Caused a few hundred or thousand deaths, too.
  • Made the wrong decision to settle on the planet, which became detected and occupied by the Cylons because of the detonation.
  • Ok, he fought against signing death sentences.
  • Worked with the Cylons to find Earth (well, he was tortured, too).

Then, powerless, he wasn't able to cause much harm any more.

I know his character very well, but the end result looks awful.
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
July 22 2011 19:27 GMT
#724
On July 23 2011 03:48 Perscienter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 01:54 flowSthead wrote:
On July 22 2011 03:25 Perscienter wrote:
Gaius Baltar

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Also not a villain. Gaius is weak and manipulated, but he never actively tries to harm the humans or the Battlestar Galactica. Even his stint as President on New Caprica where he was making deals with the Cylons were for his other humans protection. All of those are signs of weakness, but not villainy.

  • Granted access to the security main-frame to a spy, which caused almost the complete annihilation of the human species.
  • Constantly tried to cover up this involvement to escape prosecution.
  • Covered up, that one pilot was actually a hostile sleeper agent, which led to the assassination of the Commander.
  • Caused the death of a guard on the Pegasus.
  • Gave away a nuclear warhead to a Cylon, lol. Caused a few hundred or thousand deaths, too.
  • Made the wrong decision to settle on the planet, which became detected and occupied by the Cylons because of the detonation.
  • Ok, he fought against signing death sentences.
  • Worked with the Cylons to find Earth (well, he was tortured, too).

Then, powerless, he wasn't able to cause much harm any more.

I know his character very well, but the end result looks awful.


  • Did not know she was a spy. That is kind of what spies are supposed to do, so not a villainous act.
  • The other option was knowingly endangering himself. Not taking responsibility for something you cannot fix anyway hardly counts as villainous.
  • This was actually confusing in the plot itself as they seemed to imply he knew she was a Cylon, but did not say anything so she would not kill him. He, however, never found anyone else that was a Cylon so it seemed like his thing just happened to work for her, and for no one else. I found it confusing.
  • "Caused the death of a guard on the Pegasus." ~ Don't remember this.
  • "Gave away a nuclear warhead to a Cylon, lol. Caused a few hundred or thousand deaths, too." ~ Yes, this was definitely stupid and villainous.
  • "Made the wrong decision to settle on the planet, which became detected and occupied by the Cylons because of the detonation." Technically, there is no way to know it was the wrong decision to settle until after the Cylons came. Are you suggesting that we should take President Roslin at her word when she says the scriptures think this new planet is not the one? That hardly seems ok for a secular president.


Except for the warhead act, and the dead guard I don't remember, nothing he has done has really shown "villainy" or the active pursuit of nefarious aims. Gaius Baltar for pretty much the entire run of the show is interested in preserving the human race, he just happens to be pretty terrible at it.
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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2873 Posts
July 22 2011 19:37 GMT
#725
duh

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aka wilted_kale
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
July 22 2011 19:41 GMT
#726
The Maestro MJY.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
July 22 2011 19:49 GMT
#727
also
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artemis entreri

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ed from lion king; he didn't ever have one untrue word.
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
July 22 2011 21:10 GMT
#728
I Usually tend to automatically go agains the villains just cuz im such a sucker for the good guy, but Coyote Starrk from Bleach really got to me. He was one of the few villains that actually showed weaknesses, and second-guessed himself over and over in his own head.

He seemed more like a good guy then a bad guy, but was supposed to act as a villain. His history with lillinette etc make you kinda feel for him.

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acgFork
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada397 Posts
July 22 2011 21:23 GMT
#729
The Gracken.
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Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
July 22 2011 21:34 GMT
#730
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xlord 5:0
InsaniaK
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden120 Posts
July 22 2011 21:54 GMT
#731
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I rest my case.
Kal_rA1
Profile Joined January 2011
160 Posts
July 22 2011 22:11 GMT
#732
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taking over the world.. and i LOVE IT

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Jaedong Oz
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
July 22 2011 22:38 GMT
#733
pre sc2 kerrigan
joker
guy from die hard 1

are first that come to mind atm ~
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
July 22 2011 22:39 GMT
#734
Zorg (Gary Oldman) from The Fifth Element is probably my all-time favourite.
Dranak
Profile Joined July 2011
United States464 Posts
July 22 2011 22:49 GMT
#735
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Albedo Piazzolla from Xenosaga 1 (yeah, I now they made him less of an evil psycho in the later games)

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Jon Irenicus

msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
July 23 2011 09:20 GMT
#736


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Jon Irenicus



Irenicus ain't got nothing on the transcendent one
Yung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States727 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 09:34:26
July 23 2011 09:34 GMT
#737
I hate deathclaws in Fallout:NV They can fuc your shit up even at high level.
edit: i really shouldnt post at 4am
OhYess
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 09:52:54
July 23 2011 09:52 GMT
#738
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Because she's a god amongst us mere mortals. All praise Pricilla.
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
July 23 2011 09:59 GMT
#739
On July 23 2011 18:34 XKiller wrote:
I hate deathclaws in Fallout:NV They can fuc your shit up even at high level.
edit: i really shouldnt post at 4am


in old fallout, you had to pretty much avoid every melee hit of a deathclaw, because almost all of their hits were critical and crippling. i remember the coolest npc in fallout 2 was a death claw in a robe, too bad there was an annoying delay whenever he started fighting when he took off his robe
Ubikuuu!
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 12:01:42
July 23 2011 11:58 GMT
#740
On July 23 2011 18:59 msjakofsky wrote:
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On July 23 2011 18:34 XKiller wrote:
I hate deathclaws in Fallout:NV They can fuc your shit up even at high level.
edit: i really shouldnt post at 4am


in old fallout, you had to pretty much avoid every melee hit of a deathclaw, because almost all of their hits were critical and crippling. i remember the coolest npc in fallout 2 was a death claw in a robe, too bad there was an annoying delay whenever he started fighting when he took off his robe



I found F2 Enclave soldiers to be damn terrifying: really needed an optimized character to kill them efficiently.

Here are two gems:
Sergent Dornan from Camp Navarro
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And the comunication from the Poseidon reactor 5 in Gecko to the Enclave oil rig (start at 35s, the speech at 1:25m is just too hilarious "Who the f... who is th.. wha?.. I should kick your effing ass!")
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"…I guess you can't live very long without arousing hostility; you can't please everybody, because people want different things. Please one and you displease another."
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