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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
November 21 2004 17:25 GMT
#621
Ok since most of you are morons heres an easy one.

There are 2 kinds of ppl, knights and thieves, knights always tell the truth and thieves always lie.

So theres 3 persons (A,B,C), an outsider asks A "are you a knight or a thief?", he answers but he cant hear him, so he asks B "what did A say?", so B answers: He said he is a thief, quickly C turns and says to the outsider, "dont listen to B, he always lie"

So what are A, B or C, thief, knight cant know.
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Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
November 21 2004 17:38 GMT
#622
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 21 2004 17:45 GMT
#623
a says he is a knight
b is a thief
c is a knight
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
November 21 2004 17:46 GMT
#624
beheading videos rules
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 21 2004 17:48 GMT
#625
i watched one beheading video
it made me sick and depressed for a long time
i never watched another
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
November 21 2004 17:57 GMT
#626
theres one particular beheading video that is the most sickening, because you can hear the guy struggly for his life and begging, and the throat noises keep going for a long time, pretty nasty, i dont know how those arabs have the stomach to do such a thing.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-21 19:28:33
November 21 2004 19:24 GMT
#627
On November 22 2004 02:57 baal wrote:
theres one particular beheading video that is the most sickening, because you can hear the guy struggly for his life and begging, and the throat noises keep going for a long time, pretty nasty, i dont know how those arabs have the stomach to do such a thing.


the one i saw was like that and it was actually a russian being killed by Chechnyans :-(
MrEd
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia357 Posts
November 21 2004 20:09 GMT
#628
The boy/girl one is 50% not 2/3...

Take this: Woman is giving birth to two kids, not twins, first one is a girl. What is the probability that the next will be a boy? or wateva the question was.

its 50%, the fact that the first baby (or the child who opened the door) is a girl has no affect on the gender of the other.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 21 2004 20:37 GMT
#629
On November 22 2004 05:09 MrEd wrote:
The boy/girl one is 50% not 2/3...

Take this: Woman is giving birth to two kids, not twins, first one is a girl. What is the probability that the next will be a boy? or wateva the question was.

its 50%, the fact that the first baby (or the child who opened the door) is a girl has no affect on the gender of the other.


dude 8000 people have said this already.
KarlSberg~
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
731 Posts
November 21 2004 21:00 GMT
#630
On November 22 2004 05:37 travis wrote:
dude 8000 people have said this already.


It can never be bad to repeat that.
So many people felt smart for applying a complicated logic to this problem they didn't even realize it didn't fit to the problem.
There are 01 kind of people who know binary. Those who understand little endian and those who don t.
Famouzze
Profile Joined June 2004
971 Posts
November 21 2004 21:08 GMT
#631
ROTFL i was expecting to see more discussion but not THIRTY PAGES i fucking love that girl/boy riddle :D people get sooooooo insanely stubborn about it, its frustrating if u try really hard to convince them but beautiful if u just accept it. its just so hard to escape your "common sense" that theres always a 50% chance. this is my favorite way of explaining it, i'll try one last time: (i beg you, just consider "even though common sense says it is 50% and this is completely obvious maybe just maybe i could be incorrect")

lets say instead of 2 children the woman is Mother Earth and she has 8,000,000,000 children. the people who think its 50% and not 2/3 are arguing that even over such a long sample size as the entire planet, there is no tendency towards a 50/50 layout of boys/girls. then how do u explain that this is what happened on the planet earth? the larger the sample size, the less likely it is to be all one gender.

same with coin flips. anyone who knows anything about probability knows that the longer you flip a coin for, the closer to 50/50 layout of heads/tails you will come. everyone can agree with this. it is mathematically impossible to flip a coin 1,000,000,000,000 times and have more than 60% of either heads or tails. do u see the connection between this and the boy/girl problem?
KarlSberg~
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
731 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-21 21:15:31
November 21 2004 21:13 GMT
#632
Common sense says 50%
People who know the curtain riddle and love it too much think 66%.
People who think for themselves and really read the question know it is 50%
There are 01 kind of people who know binary. Those who understand little endian and those who don t.
Famouzze
Profile Joined June 2004
971 Posts
November 21 2004 21:14 GMT
#633
karslberg, can u please just read what i wrote and think about it? I KNOW common sense says its 50%. probability goes AGAINST ur intuition. thats just the way it is. plz read the post above yours.
KarlSberg~
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
731 Posts
November 21 2004 21:15 GMT
#634
I know the curtain riddle and understand it very well.
Now ask yourself if I would answer 50% just because it is common sense.
There are 01 kind of people who know binary. Those who understand little endian and those who don t.
Famouzze
Profile Joined June 2004
971 Posts
November 21 2004 21:16 GMT
#635
why do u refuse to read and respond to my post?
Famouzze
Profile Joined June 2004
971 Posts
November 21 2004 21:18 GMT
#636
i wrote that whole thing for your benefit, the benefit of the ppl who still think its 50%...if u want to be totally arrogant and not even read my post i may as well not have written it. u really just dont want to be wrong, thats what it comes down to. believing u are right is more important than finding out for sure if u are right. why not just reconsider for 10 seconds?
KarlSberg~
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
731 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-21 21:24:00
November 21 2004 21:22 GMT
#637
You have the right to be wrong but just in case you want to know the result of your own riddle.

There are 8 possible situations (all of which are as likely to happen).
BB and the 1st boy answers
BB and the 2nd boy answers
BG and the boy answers
BG and the girl answers
GB and the girl answers
GB and the boy answers
GG and the 1st girl answers
GG and the 2nd girl answers

Of these 8, we can get rid of 4 (because we know a girl answered)
the remainings are:
BG and the girl answers
GB and the girl answers
GG and the 1st girl answers
GG and the second girl answers
There are 01 kind of people who know binary. Those who understand little endian and those who don t.
KarlSberg~
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
731 Posts
November 21 2004 21:23 GMT
#638
By the way I did read all your posts but you are wrong.
There are 01 kind of people who know binary. Those who understand little endian and those who don t.
KarlSberg~
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
731 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-21 21:26:14
November 21 2004 21:24 GMT
#639
The trick is:
Saying "The child who answered is a girl." is not the same as saying "One of the children is a girl."

Unless you know a boy who has a sister would always let her go when someone is at the door.
There are 01 kind of people who know binary. Those who understand little endian and those who don t.
Famouzze
Profile Joined June 2004
971 Posts
November 21 2004 21:25 GMT
#640
hey karlsberg i got an idea: read my post and respond to it? one thing i noticed this whole thread is the stubborn 50/50 people will only debate by ignoring what the 2/3 people say and then laying down their own train of thjought that the 2/3 people will then respond to. if u really want to discuss it and validate ur opinion i challenge you to really read what i wrote and write a response to it.

if u dont want to thats fine but u should also admit that u are just clinging to ur answer out of stubborn refusal to admit u might be wrong .
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