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Please guys, stay on topic.

This thread is about the situation in Iraq and Syria.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 04:42:16
February 16 2015 04:41 GMT
#5541
On February 16 2015 08:56 lastpuritan wrote:
wow. thats unique.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world

have a look at that list, can you even destroy iran, turkey, india, pakistan etc. totally?

If you're talking about a conflict between the Western world and the Muslim world at this time, then yes, the Western world could do it given its current superiority. Of course, it will never happen.

EDIT: And before someone says otherwise, I'm not advocating that it should happen.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 05:33:58
February 16 2015 05:33 GMT
#5542
getting rid of radical islam doesn't need war crimes lol. first of all many of these conflicts have non-religious, historical and nationalistic origins. the use of religious doctrine in such conflicts is like the venetian crusade using christianity.

there's also obvious examples of secular states in the region. turkey for example. obviously secularism is eroding, but the erosion of secularism has to do with the rise of identity focused ideology, which coalescence around religion but is really closer to nationalism.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 07:13:58
February 16 2015 07:13 GMT
#5543
Egypt Armed Forces just aired a statement on state TV that its fighter jets launched the airstrikes on Islamic State in Derna
Yes im
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
February 16 2015 07:15 GMT
#5544
isn't that in Libya?
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
February 16 2015 13:26 GMT
#5545
On February 16 2015 16:13 ImFromPortugal wrote:
Egypt Armed Forces just aired a statement on state TV that its fighter jets launched the airstrikes on Islamic State in Derna


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/17/world/middleeast/isis-egypt-libya-airstrikes.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

"CAIRO — The Egyptian military said on Monday that it had carried out airstrikes in Libya in retaliation for the beheading of more than a dozen Egyptian Christians by a branch of the Islamic State extremist group there."
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
February 16 2015 13:38 GMT
#5546
Westerners join Iraqi Christian militia to fight Islamic State
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/15/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-foreignfighters-idUSKBN0LJ0LI20150215

"(Reuters) - Saint Michael, the archangel of battle, is tattooed across the back of a U.S. army veteran who recently returned to Iraq and joined a Christian militia fighting Islamic State in what he sees as a biblical war between good and evil."


Bahrain sends warplanes to Jordan to fight Islamic State
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/15/us-mideast-crisis-bahrain-idUSKBN0LJ12T20150215

"(Reuters) - Bahrain has deployed war planes to Jordan, the state news agency BNA said on Sunday, becoming the second Gulf Arab country to send warplanes to help in the fight against Islamist militants in Syria and Iraq."



Bahrain doing some PR when they have their own long civil unrest.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 20:00:45
February 16 2015 19:59 GMT
#5547




17 minute video from Ahrar al-Sham showing Militant's battle to liberate Wadi Deif Army Base & Hamidiyah.










Rebels captured new positions following clashes with regime forces near Jobar.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
lastpuritan
Profile Joined December 2014
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 21:35:05
February 16 2015 21:33 GMT
#5548
^ StealthBlue, how do you get these links? Do you have any connections inside Syria, like relatives or friends? Seems like you know arabic.


Can anyone translate?

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/bundeswehr-waffen-moeglicherweise-in-haende-der-pkk-gelangt-a-1018355.html

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?244506-German-weapons-possibly-in-the-possession-of-the-PKK


[image loading]

And is this solid? Can they liberate Raqqa one day?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/isis-syria-news-kurdish-ypg-forces-invade-islamic-states-raqqa-stronghold-1488171
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
February 16 2015 21:41 GMT
#5549
Translate what? The box says High Explosive/Fragmentation Hand Grenade Trigger.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11904 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 21:49:59
February 16 2015 21:47 GMT
#5550
Rough translation of the Spiegel article, i cut it a bit short:

"Some information coming from kurdic fighters seem to say that weapons the german military send to peshmerga might have ended up with the PKK.

A PKK commander said to the Spiegel reporters that they now have german Milan Anti-Tank-weapons and frag grenades. PKK-Fighters showed empty boxes of grenades and the launch tube of an rpg. Apparently the german military should be able to determine easily if the grenades and rpgs come from that delivery to peshmerga, but they haven't said anything yet due to an order from the ministry.

If these stories are true, the weapons would have ended in the wrong hands, but served their purpose nonetheless. Thousands of Yazidis and Kurds could return to their cities and villages since last fall."

The chest in the picture say
"10 Grenade, Hand
explosive/fragmentation
detonators for hand grenades"
and a lot of serial numbers. I have no idea what grenade chests look like so i can not comment on that.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-17 03:49:31
February 17 2015 03:49 GMT
#5551








^ Remember the Jobar offensive that was announced by the Regime last year, with the SAA saying this was the front line and it's new elite units would engage. It took the SAA over four months just to secure and then demolish this building.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 17 2015 21:18 GMT
#5552




"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 18 2015 03:54 GMT
#5553




^Unconfirmed.

ROME — Last weekend in Italy, as the threat of ISIS in Libya hit home with a new video addressed to “the nation signed with the blood of the cross” and the warning, “we are south of Rome,” Italian prime minister Matteo Renzi shuttered up the Italian embassy in Tripoli and raised his fist with the threat of impending military action. Never mind that Italy has only 5,000 troops available that are even close to deployable, according to the defense ministry. Or that the military budget was cut by 40 percent two years ago, which has kept the acquisition of 90 F-35 fighter jets hanging in the balance and left the country combat-challenged to lead any mission—especially one against an enemy like the Islamic State.

In fact, Renzi didn’t specify exactly who would wield that military might, and, two days later, when no one volunteered to lead the charge, he backtracked. “It’s not the time for a military intervention,” Renzi told an Italian television station Monday night and said the United Nations had to lead the way. “Our proposal is to wait for the UN Security Council. The strength of the UN is decidedly superior to that of the radical militias.”

Whether the time is right or not, there is no question that there is a palpable tension in Italy over the ISIS threat—Libya is just 109 miles away from the island of Lampedusa and 300 miles from Sicily—made worse by a 64 percent increase in illegal migrant arrivals by sea since last year. In all of 2014, more than 170,000 people arrived from Libya and Turkey, the highest number ever recorded. Last weekend, as the embassy staff made their way to Italy on a mercantile ship, 2,164 migrants left the same Libyan shores en route to Sicily. The week before, more than 300 people were lost in the same seas as their rickety fishing boats capsized before rescuers could save them.

Anti-immigration politicians have argued for months that it would take little for jihadi fighters to infiltrate a migrant boat and effectively end up taxied into Italy by rescue ships and the Italian navy. In a biting editorial in Il Giornale newspaper, owned by the Silvio Berlusconi family, Sergio Rame hypothesized that the recent influx was an attempt by terrorists to effectively “smoke out” the Italian navy into rescuing the migrants, in an attempt to lure the boats close to Libyan shores in order to launch an attack. The Italian government, which supports the rescue of migrants fleeing war, dismissed the theory.

Meanwhile, the Italian government said they are prepared to deploy 500 special anti-terrorism police to protect sensitive tourist sites in Rome.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 18 2015 04:43 GMT
#5554
Romans, the Italians are not.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-18 21:09:05
February 18 2015 21:08 GMT
#5555
The SAA offensive goes into rinse and repeat mode once again. Takes ground loses it because they have no/few veterans units to hold it and absorb counter attacks.

Al-Nusra is also counter attacking in the Daraa countryside in hopes of moving to open the Damascus countryside, and also to try and regain control of the villages in the area as well.



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 19 2015 00:09 GMT
#5556




"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 19 2015 16:58 GMT
#5557




The ISF has claimed they have recaptured Hardatnin.






Rebels shelling army base in Ma'as near Daraa.


Media reports based on eyewitness and opposition sources saying that Turkey has become a party to the civil war in Syria have found their way into court proceedings. During the trial of the Islamic State (IS) militants who attacked Turkish security forces at Nigde last year, court files revealed that Turkey, beyond supplying opposition forces with weapons and ammunition, had also given artillery support to the opposition groups that captured Kassab. The prosecutor obtained striking admissions by tapping the defendants’ phones. According to documents obtained by Ahmet Sik of Cumhuriyet, the wiretapping transcripts reveal that the opposition forces at Kassab inform people in Turkey of the coordinates of Syrian army positions around Kassab, and then Turkey shells those locations.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-19 21:34:51
February 19 2015 21:30 GMT
#5558
The SAA offensive in Northern Aleppo has completely collapsed as of this posting, describing it as a failure would be a compliment. Not only have the SAA lost the ground they captured but the feint to try and surprise Al-Nursa not only didn't work but Hezbollah plus other Allies and w/e Militias they could find to use in the attack were pretty much slaughtered, for nothing. This series of battles changes nothing in the long term considering Aleppo but if the Regime hopes this would be a barging chip in future negotiations then it has backfired.



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 20 2015 03:50 GMT
#5559


FSA fighters are treating wounded regime troops after Aleppo battles.




A joint Iraqi-Kurdish military force of up to 25,000 fighters is being prepared to retake the Iraqi city of Mosul from Islamic State (IS), a US official says.

The senior military official has said that the operation to recapture the northern city would probably take place in April or May.

Iraq's second largest city was currently being held by 1,000 to 2,000 IS militants, the official added.

Mosul, which was home to more than a million people, fell to IS last June.

The unnamed official told reporters that no decision had been made on whether a small group of US military advisers would be needed on the ground to direct air support.

The official said all of the fighters in the force would have gone through training by the US.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
hannahbelle
Profile Joined April 2014
United States0 Posts
February 20 2015 05:16 GMT
#5560
The United States and its allies cannot defeat the Islamic State simply by killing militants, said State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf, adding that it must target the underlying reasons people join the group, such as the lack of job opportunities.

Harf made the comments during an interview with Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s ‘Hardball.’ She said that while the American-led coalition against the Islamic State (IS, also known as ISIS/ISIL) will continue battering militant strongholds in the Middle East, force will not be enough on its own.

READ MORE: 45 people ‘burned to death’ by ISIS jihadists in Iraq

“We’re killing a lot of them, and we’re going to keep killing more of them. So are the Egyptians, so are the Jordanians – they’re in this fight with us,” Harf said. “But we cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot kill our way out of this war. We need in the medium to longer term to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups, whether it’s a lack of opportunity for jobs, whether…”

Matthews interrupted Harf at this point, arguing that world nations will never be able to put an end to poverty in our lifetimes, implying that such a strategy would never work.

The statement, made by deputy spokeswoman Marie Harf on Chris Matthews’ Hardball on MSNBC, came after ISIS allegedly released a video showing the beheading of 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians. Matthews suggested to Harf that the purpose of the act was to humiliate the West.


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The solution is so simple. Surprised no one thought of this before.
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