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Note: a number of sources are saying that Beast Master Casey has been suspended for 4 days and that the rat boy was suspended for 21. Look around for more sources please.
sureshot_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States257 Posts
March 14 2011 23:22 GMT
#561
Why I feel sorry for the little kid who now probably has irreversible brain-damage, or a concussion at least, I have a very hard time feeling sympathetic for him. Bullying is one of the most damaging forms of harassment a child can go through, both physically and mentally. What Casey did was pure self-defense. Had Casey reacted in that way after receiving a few names or slurs then he would be at fault, but the other kid threw the first punch. I even give him more credit for waiting that long AND only attacking once. It's very easy to get caught up in the moment, especially in a state of anger, and continue attacking after out of a state of self-defense.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 14 2011 23:22 GMT
#562
On March 15 2011 08:18 Rokusha wrote:
I just read this whole thread and I don't understand this whole speculation about the body slam being more dangerous than punching. Sure the bully could have got a broken neck from being slammed on the ground but it is also a possibility that would have happened if he was punched too. Look at where the bully is standing, right in front of the wooden ledge. If he was punched he could have fallen and broken his neck too.

That's why all this speculation is pointless. Anything could have happened...

But onto the situation, I am glad Casey stood up to the bully. Standing for what is right takes a lot of courage (although Casey more likely snapped instead of it being courage).


Exactly, the punching could have been more dangerous... easily. The bodyslam wasn't even that bad, he did not fall on his neck and head as everyone thinks. The impact was surprisingly well distributed, which was probably an accident on its own (Luckily for that kid)... Or Casey is a pro wrestler and he knows how to slam people without killing them lol
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
March 14 2011 23:23 GMT
#563
On March 15 2011 08:19 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 08:09 Aquafresh wrote:
If what we've heard regarding the suspensions for those involved is true I think the school has handled this properly. Casey could have seriously injured the kid or worse, and a school can't tolerate violence no matter how justified, so they needed to suspend him for at least a little while.


I'm not calling you out specifically, but I've seen this line said a lot or something to its same effect. Am I the only one who thinks that violence seriously could be the answer when justifiable? I'm not saying it's the only answer, or even the preferred one, but I'll be damned if I think anything Casey did was wrong. If I don't think what he did was wrong, then I certainly cant condone punishing him just to try to prove some ridiculous idea.


The school officals should have stopped this years ago and he shouldn't have had to defend himself in the first place.
They are practically punishing him for their own incompetence.
I'll call Nada.
CaptainFwiffo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States576 Posts
March 14 2011 23:23 GMT
#564
There's another video of another incident that happened a short time later:
link
"Even though they don't drink milk, milk comes out of their nose, disturbingly." - Tasteless
Husnan
Profile Joined November 2010
France298 Posts
March 14 2011 23:24 GMT
#565
On March 15 2011 08:15 Lennon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 08:08 Husnan wrote:
Is "bullying" a US-only thing? I'm French and this type of thing pretty much doesn't exist here.
It seems so common in the US.. Even the Simpsons have bullies.


Bullshit. Bullying exists in every country.
+ Show Spoiler +
Oh wait you're a troll.


I'm not a troll. And this isn't bullshit either. I teach kids age 11 to 18, I think I'd know about it.
What I'm saying is what seems to be a very, very rare occurrence in France seems to be the common standard in the US.
That's all.

If you're gonna see anti-americanism in that, then you're a lost cause.
You see what happens, Larry? You see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass?
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
March 14 2011 23:24 GMT
#566
100% supportive of Casey. Do you guys really think there is a "less harmful" way to deal with bullies? Do you guys even know what it feels like to be bullied? I don't personally, but I know many people who have had to deal with bullying.

Casey didn't even want to fight, but he took whatever course of action would get him out of that dangerous situation. The kid is literally and figuratively fighting for himself against who knows how many bullies at that school, and all most of you can say is that he "took it too far"? What a joke.
#TeamBuLba
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
March 14 2011 23:24 GMT
#567
Well school is school. Sadly.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 14 2011 23:25 GMT
#568
On March 15 2011 08:22 sureshot_ wrote:
Why I feel sorry for the little kid who now probably has irreversible brain-damage, or a concussion at least, I have a very hard time feeling sympathetic for him. Bullying is one of the most damaging forms of harassment a child can go through, both physically and mentally. What Casey did was pure self-defense. Had Casey reacted in that way after receiving a few names or slurs then he would be at fault, but the other kid threw the first punch. I even give him more credit for waiting that long AND only attacking once. It's very easy to get caught up in the moment, especially in a state of anger, and continue attacking after out of a state of self-defense.


There is 0 brain damage done by that... People are blowing the slam out of proportion, the kid had a bloody mouth at worst.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
March 14 2011 23:25 GMT
#569
On March 15 2011 08:24 Husnan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 08:15 Lennon wrote:
On March 15 2011 08:08 Husnan wrote:
Is "bullying" a US-only thing? I'm French and this type of thing pretty much doesn't exist here.
It seems so common in the US.. Even the Simpsons have bullies.


Bullshit. Bullying exists in every country.
+ Show Spoiler +
Oh wait you're a troll.


I'm not a troll. And this isn't bullshit either. I teach kids age 11 to 18, I think I'd know about it.
What I'm saying is what seems to be a very, very rare occurrence in France seems to be the common standard in the US.
That's all.

If you're gonna see anti-americanism in that, then you're a lost cause.


You sound like a troll because as I clearly stated before, this didn't happen in the U.S.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
March 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#570
As much as I absolutely hate getting into the armchair martial artist debate, anyone who has taken use of force training knows that repeated blows, even at 80%, are worse than a single blow at 100%. That is why officers always use 100% force (it also takes away legal problems). Casey slamming the kid down once and walking away will almost always do much much less damage than multiple punches would.
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Alexson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belarus293 Posts
March 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#571
On March 15 2011 08:24 Husnan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 08:15 Lennon wrote:
On March 15 2011 08:08 Husnan wrote:
Is "bullying" a US-only thing? I'm French and this type of thing pretty much doesn't exist here.
It seems so common in the US.. Even the Simpsons have bullies.


Bullshit. Bullying exists in every country.
+ Show Spoiler +
Oh wait you're a troll.


I'm not a troll. And this isn't bullshit either. I teach kids age 11 to 18, I think I'd know about it.
What I'm saying is what seems to be a very, very rare occurrence in France seems to be the common standard in the US.
That's all.

If you're gonna see anti-americanism in that, then you're a lost cause.

Lol you're a teacher? That's why..

Not saying all teachers are like this, but so many think their students are just perfect little angels and get along so nicely...
Liberal who supports gun use and supports an eye for an eye
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#572
On March 15 2011 08:23 CaptainFwiffo wrote:
There's another video of another incident that happened a short time later:
link


Not funny...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
sureshot_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States257 Posts
March 14 2011 23:27 GMT
#573
On March 15 2011 08:23 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 08:19 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On March 15 2011 08:09 Aquafresh wrote:
If what we've heard regarding the suspensions for those involved is true I think the school has handled this properly. Casey could have seriously injured the kid or worse, and a school can't tolerate violence no matter how justified, so they needed to suspend him for at least a little while.


I'm not calling you out specifically, but I've seen this line said a lot or something to its same effect. Am I the only one who thinks that violence seriously could be the answer when justifiable? I'm not saying it's the only answer, or even the preferred one, but I'll be damned if I think anything Casey did was wrong. If I don't think what he did was wrong, then I certainly cant condone punishing him just to try to prove some ridiculous idea.


The school officals should have stopped this years ago and he shouldn't have had to defend himself in the first place.
They are practically punishing him for their own incompetence.


They're punishing him, because THEY HAVE TO. Sadly, any form of physical violence at school brings with it repercussions (i.e. suspensions/expulsions). Also the motivations for Casey's actions aren't that convincing of self-defense (I would argue that they are however).
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
March 14 2011 23:27 GMT
#574
well you know sometimes violence is the answer to violence.

I feel this kid, cause I was bullied once and ever since I punched that little fat fuck who always bullied me in the face and his nose bled, he left me alone. Sometimes its just worth risking a little just to be left alone from bullies.
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 23:30:26
March 14 2011 23:28 GMT
#575
On March 15 2011 08:11 Gofarman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 08:08 Husnan wrote:
Is "bullying" a US-only thing? I'm French and this type of thing pretty much doesn't exist here.
It seems so common in the US.. Even the Simpsons have bullies.



I would be very surprised if what you said is true, I'd bet that you were the bully just by from that phrase.


I've never, through my entire schooling life (4th year university atm) seen someone being physically bullied. Or heard about it around where I live. Some places have very strict policies against bullying (insta expulsion where i live), while some pretty much promote it. (2 day suspension, and only with 100 witnesses)

So while it's not a US only thing, it does vary ALOT by location. Not seeing bullying doesn't make you a bully either.
Kaoriyu
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada276 Posts
March 14 2011 23:28 GMT
#576
In my opinion Casey here isn't at fault at all. I remember when I was in elementary when people who promote anti bullying would come here and do guest presentations at the school every kid including myself just sat there and didn't pay attention, we would just be glad that we're skipping school. Even when Rachel's Challenge came into my Junior High the bullying/drug dealing only stopped for about a week and eventually it came again.

Kid's need to deal with the consequences first hand before they learn anything IMO.
progeny
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden43 Posts
March 14 2011 23:31 GMT
#577
totally got what he deserved.

But what is that older girl in the back doing? Standing there watching a group of people gang up on someone and then after its over saying i think you need to back off. People like her is the main reason bullying exist.
Husnan
Profile Joined November 2010
France298 Posts
March 14 2011 23:32 GMT
#578
On March 15 2011 08:26 Alexson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 08:24 Husnan wrote:
On March 15 2011 08:15 Lennon wrote:
On March 15 2011 08:08 Husnan wrote:
Is "bullying" a US-only thing? I'm French and this type of thing pretty much doesn't exist here.
It seems so common in the US.. Even the Simpsons have bullies.


Bullshit. Bullying exists in every country.
+ Show Spoiler +
Oh wait you're a troll.


I'm not a troll. And this isn't bullshit either. I teach kids age 11 to 18, I think I'd know about it.
What I'm saying is what seems to be a very, very rare occurrence in France seems to be the common standard in the US.
That's all.

If you're gonna see anti-americanism in that, then you're a lost cause.

Lol you're a teacher? That's why..

Not saying all teachers are like this, but so many think their students are just perfect little angels and get along so nicely...


Dude, I'm 26... It's not like I'm an old grandma who forgot how it was back then... My high school years are not that far back and I can tell you for a fact that this didn't happen. Not to me, not to any of my friends, or classmates, not to my brothers, not to my friends' brothers, or my brothers' friends, not to anyone.

And I don't know what this nonsense is about teachers and their views on their students. I know which of my students get drunk on weekends, I know which ones smoke weed, and a lot more than that.

But ok, I missed the part where it said it was in Australia. So I guess it's not a US-only thing. Nevertheless, it's pretty common in the US as well judging by the comments from Americans in this thread and from the pop-culture references I've been able to grab (The Simpsons, Malcolm in the Middle, etc..)

And I stand by my statement that this is not a common thing in France. At all.
You see what happens, Larry? You see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass?
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
March 14 2011 23:32 GMT
#579
On March 15 2011 08:27 sureshot_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 08:23 lololol wrote:
On March 15 2011 08:19 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On March 15 2011 08:09 Aquafresh wrote:
If what we've heard regarding the suspensions for those involved is true I think the school has handled this properly. Casey could have seriously injured the kid or worse, and a school can't tolerate violence no matter how justified, so they needed to suspend him for at least a little while.


I'm not calling you out specifically, but I've seen this line said a lot or something to its same effect. Am I the only one who thinks that violence seriously could be the answer when justifiable? I'm not saying it's the only answer, or even the preferred one, but I'll be damned if I think anything Casey did was wrong. If I don't think what he did was wrong, then I certainly cant condone punishing him just to try to prove some ridiculous idea.


The school officals should have stopped this years ago and he shouldn't have had to defend himself in the first place.
They are practically punishing him for their own incompetence.


They're punishing him, because THEY HAVE TO. Sadly, any form of physical violence at school brings with it repercussions (i.e. suspensions/expulsions). Also the motivations for Casey's actions aren't that convincing of self-defense (I would argue that they are however).


It's amazing how the post you reply to is a reply to yours, just amazing.
I'll call Nada.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
March 14 2011 23:32 GMT
#580
On March 15 2011 08:24 Husnan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 08:15 Lennon wrote:
On March 15 2011 08:08 Husnan wrote:
Is "bullying" a US-only thing? I'm French and this type of thing pretty much doesn't exist here.
It seems so common in the US.. Even the Simpsons have bullies.


Bullshit. Bullying exists in every country.
+ Show Spoiler +
Oh wait you're a troll.


I'm not a troll. And this isn't bullshit either. I teach kids age 11 to 18, I think I'd know about it.
What I'm saying is what seems to be a very, very rare occurrence in France seems to be the common standard in the US.
That's all.

If you're gonna see anti-americanism in that, then you're a lost cause.



lol. That's the problem with bullying - most of the time, nobody catches it. It absolutely exists though.
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