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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 12 2011 17:45 GMT
#1681
On March 13 2011 02:38 leviathan400 wrote:
A massive explosion has hit a Japanese nuclear power plant where a meltdown is feared as a huge relief operation continues after Friday's devastating earthquake and tsunami.


Hyperbola. It's under control and meltdown is no longer feared
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Essentia
Profile Joined July 2010
1150 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 17:47:51
March 12 2011 17:45 GMT
#1682
Edit: deleted
1337mango
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 18:27:09
March 12 2011 17:48 GMT
#1683
[image loading]

why is the thumbnail so damn small

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Sulkin

oh wow...

Y U NO PLAY BETTER
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
March 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#1684
On March 13 2011 02:43 Vaeila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 02:38 leviathan400 wrote:
A massive explosion has hit a Japanese nuclear power plant where a meltdown is feared as a huge relief operation continues after Friday's devastating earthquake and tsunami.


Why would you post stuff that happened 7 hours ago, it is very confusing for people to stay up to date with the situation like this..

Yeah it didn't match the pace of this thread and was awkward, but its still funny to criticize someone for posting a 7hr old news as being 'too old'. Internet spoils you.
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
HeisHere
Profile Joined January 2011
34 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 18:03:16
March 12 2011 18:01 GMT
#1685
ForceStarcraft did a special youtube video on this. The Starcraft community should help by donating to NGOs or, like Force did, inform people on how they can help.

-----

There is also that nuclear issue in Fukusima , a reactor (maybe more) exploded a few hours ago. I hope it won't affect too much Japaneses who are already weakened by the tsunami and the earthquake.

Edit 1:
(about the nuclear explosion)
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 12 2011 18:12 GMT
#1686
On March 13 2011 02:19 Isildur1 wrote:
I'm very sad because of this.

[image loading]

Who's teaching those people to think that way? Fox? Do they even know their country dropped nuclear bombs on civillian target? I guess crimes against humanity is nothing when compared to crimes against the US
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
March 12 2011 18:14 GMT
#1687
It would be interesting to get some information from manifesto about Japan.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 18:18:17
March 12 2011 18:17 GMT
#1688
On March 13 2011 03:14 Newguy wrote:
It would be interesting to get some information from manifesto about Japan.

he already said yesterday he is okay.
it was in this thread ... post #25 iirc.

i believe he is still on the south end of the isle, so he should not be in direct harm.


PLEASE DO NOT CALL THE EMBASSY LIKE LAST TIME!
scnr
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
March 12 2011 18:18 GMT
#1689
On March 13 2011 02:19 Isildur1 wrote:
I'm very sad because of this.

[image loading]


I understand people saying "they're just trolling" and stuff, but what is really sad to me is the fact that a majority of these people probably wholeheartedly believe what they are saying. It's god damned sickening that we have such ignorant fools make up such a large portion of our population in the US.
On my way...
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 12 2011 18:18 GMT
#1690
keep on topic guys
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
CopperLeague
Profile Joined June 2010
154 Posts
March 12 2011 18:21 GMT
#1691
Does anyone know what's really happening with the reactor?

Some people say radiation is on it's way to the west coast, so you should make sure you take iodine. Some people are saying that he media is blowing the whole thing up out of proportion, and everything is actually under control.

What is it? Does anyone even know? I live on the west coast, so if something is happening, I would rather be prepared for it...

God damn the media.
Elvin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
149 Posts
March 12 2011 18:22 GMT
#1692
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User was warned for this post

User was temp banned for this post.
Vaeila
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands336 Posts
March 12 2011 18:23 GMT
#1693
On March 13 2011 03:21 CopperLeague wrote:
Does anyone know what's really happening with the reactor?

Some people say radiation is on it's way to the west coast, so you should make sure you take iodine. Some people are saying that he media is blowing the whole thing up out of proportion, and everything is actually under control.

What is it? Does anyone even know? I live on the west coast, so if something is happening, I would rather be prepared for it...

God damn the media.


"If radiation has leaked from the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant, winds will likely blow it out over the Pacific Ocean"

from
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 12 2011 18:23 GMT
#1694
On March 13 2011 03:21 CopperLeague wrote:
Does anyone know what's really happening with the reactor?

Some people say radiation is on it's way to the west coast, so you should make sure you take iodine. Some people are saying that he media is blowing the whole thing up out of proportion, and everything is actually under control.

What is it? Does anyone even know? I live on the west coast, so if something is happening, I would rather be prepared for it...

God damn the media.


3:18am
Reassuring news from the UN - the risk from Japan's radiation leak appears to be "probably quite low". The World Health Organisation's Gregory Hartl said:

At this moment it appears to be the case that the public health risk is probably quite low. We understand radiation that has escaped from the plant is very small in amount.

3:00am
Any radioactive pollution from the explosion at the Fukushima nuclear power plant will likely be blown out over the Pacific Ocean, thanks to favourable winds, says the French Nuclear Saety Authority.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
March 12 2011 18:25 GMT
#1695
About that nuclear power plant.
The images of the explosion was not the reactor containment blowing off. Earlier reports said it was a building not housing the reactor, newer reports said it is housing a reactor.
Since i have seen the insides of a scientific reactor and how the building was constructed, i am inclined to believe the first reports, leading me to the believe that the explosion was not caused by a reactor meltdown.

HOWEVER, since reports on the issue are scarce and most of the reporters covering it have no education on how nuclear reactors work, one of them might indeed have melted. It SHOULD have been more visible in that case, but you can't rule it out.

cross your fingers guys.
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 18:26:53
March 12 2011 18:26 GMT
#1696
On March 13 2011 03:21 CopperLeague wrote:
Does anyone know what's really happening with the reactor?

Some people say radiation is on it's way to the west coast, so you should make sure you take iodine. Some people are saying that he media is blowing the whole thing up out of proportion, and everything is actually under control.

What is it? Does anyone even know? I live on the west coast, so if something is happening, I would rather be prepared for it...

God damn the media.


It's fine. The media is blowing it out of proportion. The steam with the nitrogen isotope they released yesterday is probably on its way to the west coast, true, but that has a half-life of 5 seconds, so it's harmless.
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 18:31:46
March 12 2011 18:29 GMT
#1697
On March 13 2011 03:21 CopperLeague wrote:
Does anyone know what's really happening with the reactor?

Some people say radiation is on it's way to the west coast, so you should make sure you take iodine. Some people are saying that he media is blowing the whole thing up out of proportion, and everything is actually under control.

What is it? Does anyone even know? I live on the west coast, so if something is happening, I would rather be prepared for it...

Radiation has leaked, most likely due to controlled pressure release.
The amount of radiation leaked was significant, but nothing to seriously worry about even on the west coast. There will be no major fallout judging from what we know now.
Just wash your hands, wash your food.


If you are really scared keep your windows shut and put (preferably wet) towels under the doors and wash them when you remove them. Remember to dispose them and not use them afterwards. Do this for the next 4-6 weeks at least and you should be fine even if the reactors need to release even more steam in the next days.


On March 13 2011 03:26 dcemuser wrote:
It's fine. The media is blowing it out of proportion. The steam with the nitrogen isotope they released yesterday is probably on its way to the west coast, true, but that has a half-life of 5 seconds, so it's harmless.


If the reactor is running to hot, it is my understanding that the steam probably will contain heavier isotopes as well. I will look at some books and see what i can find out.
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
Schnullerbacke13
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1199 Posts
March 12 2011 18:34 GMT
#1698
On March 13 2011 03:12 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 02:19 Isildur1 wrote:
I'm very sad because of this.

[image loading]

Who's teaching those people to think that way? Fox? Do they even know their country dropped nuclear bombs on civillian target? I guess crimes against humanity is nothing when compared to crimes against the US


unbelievable, remembering the hiroshima and nagasaki war crime
21 is half the truth
Wingding
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada56 Posts
March 12 2011 18:34 GMT
#1699
Don't know if this is old news but: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/japan-quake-shifted-earth-4-inches-axis-20110312-015534-038.html

Even more instability in the Pacific Ocean
TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 18:37:58
March 12 2011 18:35 GMT
#1700
On March 13 2011 03:25 jacen wrote:
About that nuclear power plant.
The images of the explosion was not the reactor containment blowing off. Earlier reports said it was a building not housing the reactor, newer reports said it is housing a reactor.
Since i have seen the insides of a scientific reactor and how the building was constructed, i am inclined to believe the first reports, leading me to the believe that the explosion was not caused by a reactor meltdown.

HOWEVER, since reports on the issue are scarce and most of the reporters covering it have no education on how nuclear reactors work, one of them might indeed have melted. It SHOULD have been more visible in that case, but you can't rule it out.

cross your fingers guys.


You are correct. The explosion did not occur in the reactor itself or in the inner containment vessel. It was the outer containment building which houses the inner vessel and the reactor. It was a Hydrogen explosion and not caused by some hypothetical "meltdown" that is reported throughout the media. As far as I know it was a pumping system failure that led to the explosion.

The reactor will have suffered core damage and some parts of the core might have melted, but that doesn't mean that the reactor will spontaneously explode at some point. What it does mean is that the reactor is pretty much destroyed and not recoverable any more. Especially since they are planning to flood the reactor with sea water, which will pretty much ensure that the reactor is a complete loss (that's at least 1-2 billion in damages right there).

Edit: Unless the plant was scheduled to shut down anyway, because it was fairly old.
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