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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 12 2011 16:16 GMT
#1661
Talking to my friend(physicist at Tokyo U) on skype in the Tokyo Area and he says the people aren't really worried about the nuclear power plant since it's shut down and the reactions aren't happening for another Chernobyl to happen; since it's a light water, even if it overheats there isn't going to be an explosion. People are more scared of more major quakes/aftershocks happening.
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Galtakar
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden374 Posts
March 12 2011 16:21 GMT
#1662
On March 13 2011 01:11 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 00:39 mlgbx wrote:
On March 13 2011 00:09 Asha` wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 12 2011 23:43 Maenander wrote:
from guardian.co.uk:

Show nested quote +
Japan-based reporter Judit Kawaguchi tweets:

town of 17,000 seems to have only 3 buildings standing, hospital, some wedding place and one more building. rest are gone.

This town in Miyagi prefecture is just gone, incredible devastation, all buildings except hospital are gone, highway in pieces., ppl missing


This is Minamisanriku, a port town of about 17,000 with 10,000 currently unaccounted for. Really tragic

There's a number of before/after images from along the coast in this video, including Minamisanriku first





Thank you for posting this. The before/after images are absolutely horrifying.


holy SHIT. how does that work then. i mean the water levels will eventually go back to normal.. right?

>_<

Some of the water will receed.

And then you have to pump out the rest. Dreading to see what's beneath the water...
heroyi
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 16:27:34
March 12 2011 16:26 GMT
#1663
On March 13 2011 01:21 Galtakar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 01:11 alffla wrote:
On March 13 2011 00:39 mlgbx wrote:
On March 13 2011 00:09 Asha` wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 12 2011 23:43 Maenander wrote:
from guardian.co.uk:

Show nested quote +
Japan-based reporter Judit Kawaguchi tweets:

town of 17,000 seems to have only 3 buildings standing, hospital, some wedding place and one more building. rest are gone.

This town in Miyagi prefecture is just gone, incredible devastation, all buildings except hospital are gone, highway in pieces., ppl missing


This is Minamisanriku, a port town of about 17,000 with 10,000 currently unaccounted for. Really tragic

There's a number of before/after images from along the coast in this video, including Minamisanriku first

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zduhngJvCAY



Thank you for posting this. The before/after images are absolutely horrifying.


holy SHIT. how does that work then. i mean the water levels will eventually go back to normal.. right?

>_<

Some of the water will receed.

And then you have to pump out the rest. Dreading to see what's beneath the water...
'that is one dark post there...

but damn I hope for the best for the people over there
some big earthquakes have been happening lately...
wat wat in my pants
Alexson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belarus293 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 17:25:48
March 12 2011 16:45 GMT
#1664
I was just kidding, sheesh.
Liberal who supports gun use and supports an eye for an eye
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
March 12 2011 16:45 GMT
#1665
Did that guy on BBC just say the evacuation zone has been increased to 60 km?
maahes`ra
Profile Joined January 2011
United States255 Posts
March 12 2011 16:47 GMT
#1666
That guy had a pretty interesting case for the situation being worse than it seems... Sigh. How I crave truth.

Still no sleep for me, it seems. .__.;
( ._.) ( ._) ( .) ( ) (≖ ) (‿≖ ) (≖‿≖ ) (≖‿≖) ( ≖‿≖) ( -‿-)
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 16:54:51
March 12 2011 16:51 GMT
#1667
On March 13 2011 01:45 TBO wrote:
Did that guy on BBC just say the evacuation zone has been increased to 60 km?


I don't think so, friends in Tokyo watching the news and they said there wasn't any mention about increasing the evac zone to even larger

http://www.fujitv.co.jp/index.html
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 16:54:25
March 12 2011 16:53 GMT
#1668
On March 13 2011 01:45 TBO wrote:
Did that guy on BBC just say the evacuation zone has been increased to 60 km?


Depending on when the clip was from, there was a reporter earlier today for the BBC (Nick Ravenscroft) who wanted to approach the area but found that people were being warned off from entering the surrounding area from about 60km out as an extra precaution, while the evacuation zone itself was 20km.

I don't see any updates on the bbc site regarding that, so it seems likely you just saw that older clip?
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 16:56:20
March 12 2011 16:54 GMT
#1669
On March 13 2011 01:51 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 01:45 TBO wrote:
Did that guy on BBC just say the evacuation zone has been increased to 60 km?


I don't think so, friends in Tokyo watching the news and they said there wasn't any mention about increasing the evac zone to even larger


Okay might have misunderstood him then - but it really sounded like 60 not like the 20 to which it was increased earlier. Didnt find anything about it elsewhere either so it probably was a mistake either from him or from me.

@asha, it wasn't a reporter but a nuclear expert (or something similar - cought the interview in the middle), but it probably was this warning zone then and not the evac zone.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 16:54:34
March 12 2011 16:54 GMT
#1670
misclick
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Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 16:59:10
March 12 2011 16:55 GMT
#1671
On March 13 2011 01:16 chaoser wrote:
Talking to my friend(physicist at Tokyo U) on skype in the Tokyo Area and he says the people aren't really worried about the nuclear power plant since it's shut down and the reactions aren't happening for another Chernobyl to happen; since it's a light water, even if it overheats there isn't going to be an explosion. People are more scared of more major quakes/aftershocks happening.

there already were explosions....

Television pictures showed a massive blast at one of the buildings of the Fukushima-Daiichi plant, about 250km (160 miles) north-east of Tokyo.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12720219
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 16:58:52
March 12 2011 16:56 GMT
#1672
On March 13 2011 01:55 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 01:16 chaoser wrote:
Talking to my friend(physicist at Tokyo U) on skype in the Tokyo Area and he says the people aren't really worried about the nuclear power plant since it's shut down and the reactions aren't happening for another Chernobyl to happen; since it's a light water, even if it overheats there isn't going to be an explosion. People are more scared of more major quakes/aftershocks happening.

there already were explosions....


the explosions weren't at the core itself, it was to the pumping system

An explosion that sent white smoke rising above the Fukushima Daiichi plant Saturday afternoon buckled the walls of a concrete building that surrounded one of the plant's nuclear reactors, but did not damage the reactor itself, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano told reporters.
The explosion was caused, he said, by a failure in a pumping system as workers tried to prevent the reactor's temperature from racing out of control.
While Edano said radiation levels appeared to be falling after the explosion, the government nevertheless ordered an expanded evacuation of the area around the Daiichi plant, as well as a second facility where the cooling system had failed -- the Fukushima Daini plant
.

Time Stamp at 11:55 EST today

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/12/japan.nuclear/index.html?hpt=T1
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Vore210
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 17:05:08
March 12 2011 16:57 GMT
#1673
On March 13 2011 00:43 GunSec wrote:
This is really horrible and I feel depressed that such a big disaster happened to Japan, which is a really cool country. Is this really the beginning of the end of the world, which is "predicted" to happen in 2012?


In a geographic time-frame, stuff like this happens ALL the time. We've just been lucky the last couple of hundred years and even then we've had stuff like haiti, indonesian tsunami, san francisco quake, montserrat, hurricane katrina, eyjafjallajökull etc etc. And we've got such brief lives (and strange memories) that things like this always seem distant unless its happening right now.

It's probably not a hell of a long time till we get a meteor strike or the earths axis flips too. Just gotta hope we've moved on to deal with stuff like that properly by the time they occur.

Edit: Also the media hype over potential nuclear meltdown, even when all available information shows the situation is under control, is disgusting. Constant references to chernobyl when the situation is FAR from similar. They're like giddy kids high on sugar seeing more candy coming.

I really lose respect for a large portion of the media in situations like this. Their one saving grace is that they may motivate people to help.
Light a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life. - Terry Pratchett
jment
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria68 Posts
March 12 2011 17:19 GMT
#1674
I'm very sad because of this.

[image loading]
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 17:27:10
March 12 2011 17:24 GMT
#1675
Don't mind them, they're a very small minority that is DROWNED by the number of Americans that actually do care. You'll find that there are many more people deriding them as idiots than those trumpeting the same anti-japan message.

One of the trains on the Senseki line that disappeared last night was found derailed this morning by helicopter. Seems like the passengers were rescued

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/national/news/20110312-OYT1T00215.htm
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Vore210
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 17:25:59
March 12 2011 17:25 GMT
#1676
On March 13 2011 02:19 Isildur1 wrote:
I'm very sad because of this.
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Why be sad? I use the internet most of the time just to laugh at ignorance, not to get annoyed by trolling. There's no way those people coulda forgotten nuking hiroshima and nagasaki, its like the only wartime use of nukes and one of the most well known series of events taught in schools in any western nation.

And that a little over 2000 US military personell were killed with no lasting damage, versus over 200,000 civilians with long term high radiation and increased cancer levels and birth deformities. Then there was the firebombing of japanese cities which killed even more civilians than the nukes at H + N.

They're fooling nobody, dont let trolls get you down bro!
Light a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life. - Terry Pratchett
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
March 12 2011 17:27 GMT
#1677
On March 13 2011 02:19 Isildur1 wrote:
I'm very sad because of this.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Oh, my God. I can't believe people. Are we such terrible beings that there are those who revel at the thought of the suffering of people? Of countless people who are just ordinary people like us? The...I am at a loss of words, and feeling crushed.

However, I do realize that there are competent people out there helping, and for them I hold in my heart all my hopes for humanity. Stay strong, everyone in Japan!
I post only when my brain works.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
March 12 2011 17:29 GMT
#1678
--- Nuked ---
leviathan400
Profile Joined November 2006
United Kingdom393 Posts
March 12 2011 17:38 GMT
#1679
A massive explosion has hit a Japanese nuclear power plant where a meltdown is feared as a huge relief operation continues after Friday's devastating earthquake and tsunami.
:o
Vaeila
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands336 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 17:44:08
March 12 2011 17:43 GMT
#1680
On March 13 2011 02:38 leviathan400 wrote:
A massive explosion has hit a Japanese nuclear power plant where a meltdown is feared as a huge relief operation continues after Friday's devastating earthquake and tsunami.


Why would you post stuff that happened 7 hours ago, it is very confusing for people to stay up to date with the situation like this..
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