EPTCrisis in Japan - Page 64
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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members. Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true. | ||
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Fumanchu
Canada669 Posts
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Spica
United States5582 Posts
3.29am: Justin McCurry writes: Japan's prime minister, Naoto Kan, has said that "minute" amounts of radiation were released from the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant. Kan was speaking after a helicopter trip to survey the quake and tsunami damage. The plant's operator had earlier opened the valves of the containers housing the reactors to reduce pressure, which in turn led to the release of a small quantity of radioactive steam. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/mar/12/japan-tsunami-earthquake-live-coverage | ||
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
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Japan514 Posts
On March 12 2011 12:44 Fumanchu wrote: So I would like to make a donation to do my part to help out. Got a lot of friends living in Japan. Do you think it matters to which organization I give my money to, or are they all equally good? I remember reading an article about how world vision only gave 10 cents off the dollar a day program. I was leaning toward Sally Ann, gonna make the donation tomorrow. Choose carefully, a lot of them are practically scams. | ||
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fanta[Rn]
Japan2465 Posts
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KwarK
United States44288 Posts
On March 12 2011 10:00 NukeTheStars wrote: Somehow, I knew someone would find a way to argue AGAINST donating to Japan. I just didn't think it would happen so fast. Absolutely incredible, Kwark. I didn't say there are dozens of retail outlets where you could spend your money on random crap. I said there are places where your money is needed more. There are places that have actually requested help from aid agencies (unlike Japan) where people are dying every day from preventable diseases (unlike Japan) or even due to lack of basics like clean drinking water (unlike Japan). I'm all for helping people but helping Japan because their very high average standing of living is going to be marginally lower is ridiculous given the ongoing crises going on around the world. If it's an earthquake thing then Haiti is still a good choice, even a year on. | ||
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On March 12 2011 12:53 KwarK wrote: I didn't say there are dozens of retail outlets where you could spend your money on random crap. I said there are places where your money is needed more. There are places that have actually requested help from aid agencies (unlike Japan) where people are dying every day from preventable diseases (unlike Japan) or even due to lack of basics like clean drinking water (unlike Japan). I'm all for helping people but helping Japan because their very high average standing of living is going to be marginally lower is ridiculous given the ongoing crises going on around the world. If it's an earthquake thing then Haiti is still a good choice, even a year on. Actually, if you only look at how strong a country is, Japan may not need a donation. But at this kind of time, donation or help of any kind is the only way people around the world can show their sympathy to people in this disaster in Japan. Its not about the money but about human being helping out one another. If there is a donation for Japan going up in my place, I would donate in a heart beat just like what I did for the Sichuan EQ in China a few years back. On other news, my GF is working at a hospital in Tokyo, she told that, yesterday was the first time she saw something like it is out of an Hollywood movie, but amazingly, Japanese people seems really calm and very in order. Thats just so how civilized Japan is. My GF gonna have some crazy days ahead since hospital will recieve a large amounts of patients. GL to all people in Japan once again. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On March 12 2011 12:57 Bear4188 wrote: You should wait until the Japanese officially call for donations. It's not likely that they'll need financial aid for the immediate rescue operations between their own people, who are among the best in the world, and the US Navy stationed in Japan already. Most likely where foreign help will be needed is in rebuilding. technical/physical/rescue foreign help would be needed,but not really money tbh | ||
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KwarK
United States44288 Posts
On March 12 2011 13:01 Caphe wrote: Actually, if you only look at how strong a country is, Japan may not need a donation. But at this kind of time, donation or help of any kind is the only way people around the world can show their sympathy to people in this disaster in Japan. Its not about the money but about human being helping out one another. If there is a donation for Japan going up in my place, I would donate in a heart beat just like what I did for the Sichuan EQ in China a few years back. So do you have no sympathy for the people dying everywhere else in the world or have their disasters already expired their allotted cooldown? There are countries crying out for aid in which your money will make a real, tangible difference to someone's life. The amount of money needed to actually save a life is incredibly low when people are dying for the lack of things like mosquito nets. Japan hasn't even asked for help, giving them money because of the nature of the news cycle is absurd. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On March 12 2011 13:05 KwarK wrote: So do you have no sympathy for the people dying everywhere else in the world or have their disasters already expired their allotted cooldown? There are countries crying out for aid in which your money will make a real, tangible difference to someone's life. The amount of money needed to actually save a life is incredibly low when people are dying for the lack of things like mosquito nets. Japan hasn't even asked for help, giving them money because of the nature of the news cycle is absurd. I don't think he's saying that...why not just donate to as many as you can. I understand that maybe they don't need it AS MUCH as some other places but that doesn't mean people should be dissuaded from giving help if they want to. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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Bajadulce
United States322 Posts
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Crackensan
United States479 Posts
Logistics. Japan needs machines to get to the people in need, not necessarily money or even man power. Interesting aside, RoK (South Korea) has already pledged to aid the recovery and rescue operations. | ||
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kaisen
United States601 Posts
On March 12 2011 13:19 mTw|NarutO wrote: German Television morning news just said that Japan did ask for help. But I don't really want to discuss about donations. They asked for foreign nations help intervene. They have yet to ask non-profit organizations to help them. | ||
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Japan514 Posts
On March 12 2011 13:19 mTw|NarutO wrote: German Television morning news just said that Japan did ask for help. But I don't really want to discuss about donations. Agreeably, a $10 donation can make a huge difference in Africa, but in Japan it would be more of a depressing reminder of their desperation than real help. | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
On March 12 2011 13:05 KwarK wrote: So do you have no sympathy for the people dying everywhere else in the world or have their disasters already expired their allotted cooldown? There are countries crying out for aid in which your money will make a real, tangible difference to someone's life. The amount of money needed to actually save a life is incredibly low when people are dying for the lack of things like mosquito nets. Japan hasn't even asked for help, giving them money because of the nature of the news cycle is absurd. Look Kwark, this is just dumb. Human beings aren't that coldly logical and never will be. Do you complain about local food drives or homeless shelters in the U.K. because the money/food from them would be more effective in Africa? I'm all for raising awareness of the horrible need for help in poor countries, but there's no need to shit on people wanting to donate to Japan here. You may as well get mad at someone for giving their friend $200 instead of giving that $200 to a random homeless guy down the street who needs it more. | ||
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Ryalnos
United States1946 Posts
On March 12 2011 12:44 Fumanchu wrote: So I would like to make a donation to do my part to help out. Got a lot of friends living in Japan. Do you think it matters to which organization I give my money to, or are they all equally good? I remember reading an article about how world vision only gave 10 cents off the dollar a day program. I was leaning toward Sally Ann, gonna make the donation tomorrow. Charity Navigator gives World Vision 4 stars, claiming that out of $1.2 billion, $50 million is administrative expenses, $90 million is fundraising, the rest goes to the programs. | ||
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
On March 12 2011 13:20 Crackensan wrote: What Japan needs is logistical aid. Ships, aircraft, helicopters. Financially, they should be ok. What does concern me is I don't particularly know the details of Japans stockpile of necessities to provide victims, I.E: Food, Water, Shelter. That, and some trained, specialized personell, medics, doctors, will be in GREAT demand. Logistics. Japan needs machines to get to the people in need, not necessarily money or even man power. Interesting aside, RoK (South Korea) has already pledged to aid the recovery and rescue operations. There is going to be a need yes but I can also tell you that there is no other nation in the world as prepared as Japan. Thats the reason why we only see victims in the thousands and not the ten or twentythousands. | ||
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Crackensan
United States479 Posts
On March 12 2011 13:33 Robinsa wrote: There is going to be a need yes but I can also tell you that there is no other nation in the world as prepared as Japan. Thats the reason why we only see victims in the thousands and not the ten or twentythousands. That, and a large portion of the U.S Navies Pacific Fleet is in, and around the Sea of Japan/Korean Peninsula for obvious, yet sometimes childish (READ: N. Korea) reasons. | ||
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