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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
Swissm
Profile Joined June 2010
United States207 Posts
March 12 2011 00:36 GMT
#1181
Praying for everyone in Japan.
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
March 12 2011 00:37 GMT
#1182
On March 12 2011 09:23 Belannaer wrote:
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On March 12 2011 09:16 kaisen wrote:
On March 12 2011 09:06 jerryjohnston wrote:
On March 12 2011 09:03 whiteguycash wrote:
on a weird note, in the Economic short term, we saw Crude prices drop, yet Fuel prices Rise on the Commodities Exchange Markets. This is probably due to Japan being the #3 consumer in the world, reducing Crude demand that would have otherwise been higher.

On the other hand, the japanese refineries that were shut down limit the amount of fuel that is refined, thereby causing traders to speculate and raise prices.

Really, all market activity is speculation, but a disaster is always good for business. The more volatile the market, the more opportunities to make some serious cash.


i'm glad our misery is making you money.

Same shit happened when North korea shelled Yeonpyeong island back in November...

People always make money out of other's misery...


Even if it might sound grim this could be a boon for Japan's economy. Massive need for rebuilding creates tons of new jobs thus lowering unempoyment for many years into future. This puts money into hands of consumers who make the money move in the system by spending it. Major investors from Japan and abroad will invest in this process. These will put Japan's production on overdrive and homefront has been mended you can put this effort into export which is very good idea due to low exchange rate of yen etc.

Disaster is never a boon to your economy.
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4349 Posts
March 12 2011 00:40 GMT
#1183
Disgusting that some people are saying this earthquake is related to global warming.
These people are complete morons , can we have any natural disasters anymore without the global warming bandwagon jumping on with the most hair brained theories as to why carbon dioxide is responsible??

http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/11/some-respond-to-japan-earthquake-by-pointing-to-global-warming/

Hours after a massive earthquake rattled Japan, environmental advocates connected the natural disaster to global warming. The president of the European Economic and Social Committee, Staffan Nilsson, issued a statement calling for solidarity in tackling the global warming problem.

“Some islands affected by climate change have been hit,” said Nilsson. “Has not the time come to demonstrate on solidarity — not least solidarity in combating and adapting to climate change and global warming?”

“Mother Nature has again given us a sign that that is what we need to do,” he added.

Global warming enthusiasts have also taken to Twitter to raise awareness of the need to respond to the earthquake by finally acting on climate change. And the Competitive Enterprise Institute’s Lee Doren compiled some of the best ones.

Some examples:

AliceTMBFan said “2 hours of geography earlier talking about Japan has left me thinking…maybe global warming is way more serious then we thought…”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
March 12 2011 00:40 GMT
#1184
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Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
March 12 2011 00:41 GMT
#1185
On March 12 2011 09:40 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Disgusting that some people are saying this earthquake is related to global warming.
These people are complete morons , can we have any natural disasters anymore without the global warming bandwagon jumping on with the most hair brained theories as to why carbon dioxide is responsible??

http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/11/some-respond-to-japan-earthquake-by-pointing-to-global-warming/

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Hours after a massive earthquake rattled Japan, environmental advocates connected the natural disaster to global warming. The president of the European Economic and Social Committee, Staffan Nilsson, issued a statement calling for solidarity in tackling the global warming problem.

“Some islands affected by climate change have been hit,” said Nilsson. “Has not the time come to demonstrate on solidarity — not least solidarity in combating and adapting to climate change and global warming?”

“Mother Nature has again given us a sign that that is what we need to do,” he added.

Global warming enthusiasts have also taken to Twitter to raise awareness of the need to respond to the earthquake by finally acting on climate change. And the Competitive Enterprise Institute’s Lee Doren compiled some of the best ones.

Some examples:

AliceTMBFan said “2 hours of geography earlier talking about Japan has left me thinking…maybe global warming is way more serious then we thought…”





They aren't saying the earthquake is related to global warming. They are saying that the damage done because of the earthquake is more severe because of global warming.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4349 Posts
March 12 2011 00:42 GMT
#1186
On March 12 2011 09:23 Belannaer wrote:
Even if it might sound grim this could be a boon for Japan's economy. Massive need for rebuilding creates tons of new jobs thus lowering unempoyment for many years into future. This puts money into hands of consumers who make the money move in the system by spending it. Major investors from Japan and abroad will invest in this process. These will put Japan's production on overdrive and homefront has been mended you can put this effort into export which is very good idea due to low exchange rate of yen etc.

Yes , just what Japan needs , more debt.
Still , if that reactor blows there won't be much need for rebuilding in that 6 mile radius , at least not for a long long long time.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Theclutch
Profile Joined January 2009
United States119 Posts
March 12 2011 00:45 GMT
#1187
Are they saying that a meltdown is possible right now?
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
March 12 2011 00:49 GMT
#1188
The nuclear power plant is on fire....

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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
March 12 2011 00:50 GMT
#1189
On March 12 2011 09:45 Theclutch wrote:
Are they saying that a meltdown is possible right now?


I dunno, would like to know aswell. But they are releasing that toxic pressure or whatever now and 4 of the reactors are having problems with the cooling system.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
NukeTheStars
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States277 Posts
March 12 2011 00:51 GMT
#1190
If you haven't donated to the efforts yet, whip out those wallets! Red Cross websites accept any amount of money, and they will do kickass stuff with it. Go sell one of your crappy games at Gamestop or Ebay or wherever and move that cash, because our Japanese friends need it a hell of a lot more than we do! Go go go
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
March 12 2011 00:51 GMT
#1191
I'm too broke to donate...
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43181 Posts
March 12 2011 00:57 GMT
#1192
On March 12 2011 09:51 NukeTheStars wrote:
If you haven't donated to the efforts yet, whip out those wallets! Red Cross websites accept any amount of money, and they will do kickass stuff with it. Go sell one of your crappy games at Gamestop or Ebay or wherever and move that cash, because our Japanese friends need it a hell of a lot more than we do! Go go go

Japan is no Haiti. Just because it's the most recent disaster doesn't mean it is the most pressing. There are dozens of places around the world where your donation will go much further. We're talking about the second biggest economy in the world here.
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kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
March 12 2011 01:00 GMT
#1193
On March 12 2011 09:57 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 09:51 NukeTheStars wrote:
If you haven't donated to the efforts yet, whip out those wallets! Red Cross websites accept any amount of money, and they will do kickass stuff with it. Go sell one of your crappy games at Gamestop or Ebay or wherever and move that cash, because our Japanese friends need it a hell of a lot more than we do! Go go go

Japan is no Haiti. Just because it's the most recent disaster doesn't mean it is the most pressing. There are dozens of places around the world where your donation will go much further. We're talking about the second biggest economy in the world here.

Third biggest economy actually... China overtook 2nd place throne few months ago.
NukeTheStars
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States277 Posts
March 12 2011 01:00 GMT
#1194
Somehow, I knew someone would find a way to argue AGAINST donating to Japan. I just didn't think it would happen so fast. Absolutely incredible, Kwark.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
March 12 2011 01:03 GMT
#1195
On March 12 2011 10:00 NukeTheStars wrote:
Somehow, I knew someone would find a way to argue AGAINST donating to Japan. I just didn't think it would happen so fast. Absolutely incredible, Kwark.


It's sad and fucking horrible that something like this happens and the people suffers because of it. But Kwark has a point though, a valid point.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
TheDominator
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
New Zealand336 Posts
March 12 2011 01:05 GMT
#1196
Hope things turn out well. A 8.9 is just massive. Absolutely crazy strong.
Let's hope that casualties are minimal.
You can go a long way with a smile. You can go a lot farther with a smile and a gun.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 12 2011 01:07 GMT
#1197
Sad, how predictions come true:

On March 12 2011 06:56 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 06:52 KwarK wrote:
On March 12 2011 06:47 Serejai wrote:
On March 12 2011 06:45 Brambled wrote:
Any updates on the nuclear reactor issue?


They've evacuated people around the area and are about to start repairs.

My understanding is that the problem isn't with the reactor itself but with pressurised steam that has come in contact with the reactor. A radiation leak is going to be this steam being released into the environment rather than a meltdown. I'm more worried about whether this will damage the reputation of nuclear power than the potential health risks.


Indeed. The chances of this turning into a meltdown are slim to none, and the environmental effects probably aren't going to be too bad, either. But people freak out of everything these days, and it would be really sad to see nuclear technology get set back because of the fear of uninformed people

I suppose the government has to evacuate just to be safe, but all that's doing right now is increasing the fear amongst people. Hopefully this doesn't spark too much anti-nuclear hate because in this day and age it's really a safe and reliable technology, and I feel most people think of it as Chernobyl.


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On March 12 2011 06:55 mengsk83 wrote:
my understanding is that this is not correct. On the german news they said that there is a danger of a meltdown because the cooling is not working properly atm and is only running on batteries. So if they can not get the cooling back up the reactor could overheat and meltdown. Lets hope it wont get that far.

I feel with the people of Japan today :-/


I don't think that's very accurate. The pressure is rising and radiation levels are increasing, but the US has already delivered coolant and everything I've read seems to indicate they have that under control right now.


0050: Reaction to events at two nuclear power plants 250km (160 miles) north east of Tokyo, where states of emergencies have been declared. Environmental group Greenpeace tells the AFP news agency "Japan is in the middle of a nuclear crisis with potentially devastating consequences". Campaigner Jan Beranek adds: "While the immediate focus is on minimising radiation release and keeping local people safe, this is yet another reminder of the inherent risks of nuclear power."

And in other news:

0059: Tokyo Electric Power, which runs the two stricken nuclear power plants, confirms it has released a small amount of vapour into the atmosphere to reduce pressure on one of its reactors. It tells AFP there are no health risks.
you gotta dance
zeeQue
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom184 Posts
March 12 2011 01:11 GMT
#1198
Skimming through the posts, could we be looking at a meltdown in one or more of the reactors?

structuralinertia
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia1426 Posts
March 12 2011 01:12 GMT
#1199
On March 12 2011 09:57 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 09:51 NukeTheStars wrote:
If you haven't donated to the efforts yet, whip out those wallets! Red Cross websites accept any amount of money, and they will do kickass stuff with it. Go sell one of your crappy games at Gamestop or Ebay or wherever and move that cash, because our Japanese friends need it a hell of a lot more than we do! Go go go

Japan is no Haiti. Just because it's the most recent disaster doesn't mean it is the most pressing. There are dozens of places around the world where your donation will go much further. We're talking about the second biggest economy in the world here.

Sooo... because they're not the worst off, we should not donate to them?

Better advice might be to donate to Japan as well as those other poorer places.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 01:15:10
March 12 2011 01:13 GMT
#1200
Some other news from Korea:

"S. Korean rescuers on standby to help quake-hit Japan"

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SEOUL, March 12 (Yonhap) -- South Korea said Saturday its rescue workers and military cargo planes were ready to fly to Japan to help the neighboring country hit by the most powerful earthquake it has ever recorded.

A team of 120 relief workers, medical personnel and three military transport planes were ready to depart for Japan, awaiting a request from the Japanese government, officials at Seoul's Foreign Ministry said.

President Lee Myung-bak pledged full support on Friday to help the Japanese government recover from the major undersea quake that triggered a vast tsunami that devastated northeastern Japan.

"We are on standby to go to Japan within three hours after our government approves a departure," said an official at the Air Force.

Separately, South Korea's Foreign Ministry will send Saturday a five-member emergency team to Japan to assess any injuries or damages to its nationals staying in the quake-hit areas, officials said.

The team is scheduled to arrive in Sendai, a Japanese city closest to the earthquake's epicenter, on Saturday night, the ministry said.

Officials in Seoul said they were trying to check for possible South Korean casualties, but telecommunication problems were hampering the efforts.

The possibilities of Korean injuries or deaths cannot be ruled out because about 910,000 South Koreans live in Japan, some 10,000 of them in the Sendai area hit by the quake, they said.

About 30 Korean nationals living in the Japanese prefecture of Iwate have not yet been contacted by a South Korean consulate in Sendai, according to officials.


Im glad that Korea is doing something like this. Hasn't there been some little "grudge" between these countries because of the history they have had? Hopefully both of the countries appreciate each other a bit more from now on. 8)
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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