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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
March 12 2011 01:15 GMT
#1201
!! One of my penpals from Iwate has replied to my e-mails! Here is what he said (my Japanese is not the best, so any corrections to my mistakes would be very apprecated.) :

"怖かった。ダメ。学校はひび割れして危ないし停電中でいつ復帰するかも分からない"

"It was scary... Our school has been smashed and broken, it was dangerous, and we're still in the middle of a power outage, so we don't know when the power will come back."

...it is very scary to know someone going through this kind of situation.... My condolences go out to everyone in Japan. I will update if there's anything more he says for anyone that also has friends in Iwate Prefecture.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
NukeTheStars
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States277 Posts
March 12 2011 01:16 GMT
#1202
On March 12 2011 10:12 structuralinertia wrote:

Better advice might be to donate to Japan as well as those other poorer places.


I think we have a winner!
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
March 12 2011 01:20 GMT
#1203
I've heard from one out of two friends who are currently living in Japan. It's such a relief to see people leaving messages that they're not hurt/or have heard from people they've been worrying about.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 01:23:06
March 12 2011 01:20 GMT
#1204
On March 12 2011 10:12 structuralinertia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 09:57 KwarK wrote:
On March 12 2011 09:51 NukeTheStars wrote:
If you haven't donated to the efforts yet, whip out those wallets! Red Cross websites accept any amount of money, and they will do kickass stuff with it. Go sell one of your crappy games at Gamestop or Ebay or wherever and move that cash, because our Japanese friends need it a hell of a lot more than we do! Go go go

Japan is no Haiti. Just because it's the most recent disaster doesn't mean it is the most pressing. There are dozens of places around the world where your donation will go much further. We're talking about the second biggest economy in the world here.

Sooo... because they're not the worst off, we should not donate to them?

Better advice might be to donate to Japan as well as those other poorer places.


It is unrealistic to donate to every single place that is in need at the moment, so you have to choose towards who you would donate. If you have to make a choice, there should be some reasoning behind that choice. Are they in greater need? Are they closer to you, for some reason? Is there something that connects you to that entitity?
It's not a good thing, but it is the truth, and there is no way to deny it.
Donating to Japan isnt something bad, I don't think anyone would say something like that, as long as you think about it and conclude that's the best place your money can go towards, whatever may be your reasoning.
But personally, while it is a great tragedy, I can think of plenty of people that also go through great tragedies and wont have the same support the japanese governament can provide.
VabuDeltaKaiser
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 01:31:27
March 12 2011 01:30 GMT
#1205
incredible damage. done by nature

but, the real danger is the nuclear thread done by humans.

human will decide how this turns out. if the nuclear damage will procede to likes of chernobyl or if it will be prevented. that is a total blast of complete japan by nuclear pollution or if nothing happenes handling the situation. sadly big part is luck.

die or live. it is to be decided.

best hopes to you that it wont go the worst case scenario.

if it goes worst. whole japan is wasted land, and this is way more than the earthquake did, it would be the result of human nuclear developement.
my smiley drinks green tea. works. just, the commercial investments are lower.
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 01:32:20
March 12 2011 01:31 GMT
#1206
On March 12 2011 10:30 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
incredible damage. done by nature

but, the real danger is the nuclear thread done by humans.

human will decide how this turns out. if he nuclear damage will procede to likes of chernobyl or if it will be prevented. that is a total blast of complete japan by nuclear pollution or if nothing happenes handling the situation. sadly big part is luck.

die or live. it is to be decided.

best hopes to you that it wont go the worst case scenario.

if it goes worst. whole japan is wasted land, and this is way more than the earthquake did, it would be the result of human nuclear developement.


Whatever you're smoking sounds dangerous.
Lanaia is love.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 01:39:17
March 12 2011 01:35 GMT
#1207
On March 12 2011 10:12 structuralinertia wrote:

Better advice might be to donate to Japan as well as those other poorer places.


Dustin Browder: terrible, terrible damage.
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Anyway, do we know how many deaths there are? My local news site says 300 now, but it may exceed 1000.

User was warned for this post
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
March 12 2011 01:38 GMT
#1208
On March 12 2011 10:30 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
incredible damage. done by nature

but, the real danger is the nuclear thread done by humans.

human will decide how this turns out. if the nuclear damage will procede to likes of chernobyl or if it will be prevented. that is a total blast of complete japan by nuclear pollution or if nothing happenes handling the situation. sadly big part is luck.

die or live. it is to be decided.

best hopes to you that it wont go the worst case scenario.

if it goes worst. whole japan is wasted land, and this is way more than the earthquake did, it would be the result of human nuclear developement.


Where are your sources that say all of Japan will become a nuclear wasteland? I'm having trouble seeing how all that could happen from 2 nuclear reactor failures.
VabuDeltaKaiser
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany1107 Posts
March 12 2011 01:39 GMT
#1209
On March 12 2011 10:35 slimshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 10:12 structuralinertia wrote:

Better advice might be to donate to Japan as well as those other poorer places.


Is this a joke? If yes, it's not funny at all.
Japan is rich enough to deal with the current situation.

well the big flooding in germany also received money from india, so part of it is a sign of feel with.
my smiley drinks green tea. works. just, the commercial investments are lower.
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 01:41:22
March 12 2011 01:40 GMT
#1210
On March 12 2011 10:35 slimshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 10:12 structuralinertia wrote:

Better advice might be to donate to Japan as well as those other poorer places.


Is this a joke? If yes, it's not funny at all.
Japan is rich enough to deal with the current situation.


I think the point that people are trying to make is that donations in the ~$10 range won't make as much a difference to Japan as it would in third world countries suffering disasters.

That doesn't mean they don't need help dealing with this; it just means that there's nothing we as people of more or less average wealth can do financially.

I think if there's anything we can do it would only be in the form of manpower/man hours donated to groups like the Red Cross.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 12 2011 01:42 GMT
#1211
On March 12 2011 10:31 Zerokaiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 10:30 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
incredible damage. done by nature

but, the real danger is the nuclear thread done by humans.

human will decide how this turns out. if he nuclear damage will procede to likes of chernobyl or if it will be prevented. that is a total blast of complete japan by nuclear pollution or if nothing happenes handling the situation. sadly big part is luck.

die or live. it is to be decided.

best hopes to you that it wont go the worst case scenario.

if it goes worst. whole japan is wasted land, and this is way more than the earthquake did, it would be the result of human nuclear developement.


Whatever you're smoking sounds dangerous.


I would be incredibly surprised if the amount of destruction that results from the nuclear problem will be close to the amount of lives lost because of the earthquake. I would be surprised if it passes 0. We have no information about what exactly is going on, probally because when someone talks about nuclear energy people overreact, so we can't really remove the possibily of a disaster. But if nothing happens, it wasn't because we got lucky, it was because they did things right, everything went as planned. People are trained to handle this kind of emergency, it is something that is suposed to happen sometime, we would be fools to expect otherwise. What we can't do is not prepare ourselfs enough. We don't know yet if Japan was prepared, and if they weren't, they probally did something wrong. You can't afford to depend on luck.
VabuDeltaKaiser
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany1107 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 01:48:46
March 12 2011 01:43 GMT
#1212
On March 12 2011 10:38 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 10:30 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
incredible damage. done by nature

but, the real danger is the nuclear thread done by humans.

human will decide how this turns out. if the nuclear damage will procede to likes of chernobyl or if it will be prevented. that is a total blast of complete japan by nuclear pollution or if nothing happenes handling the situation. sadly big part is luck.

die or live. it is to be decided.

best hopes to you that it wont go the worst case scenario.

if it goes worst. whole japan is wasted land, and this is way more than the earthquake did, it would be the result of human nuclear developement.


Where are your sources that say all of Japan will become a nuclear wasteland? I'm having trouble seeing how all that could happen from 2 nuclear reactor failures.

simply research the impact of chernobyl.

russia is a mass area country, but even in germany we had an impact. japan is a super compact country, and since it is lika line, the weather is able to kill that line.

(dont forget, i think about a worst case cenario with nuclear dangers. possibilities... dont get crazy, or confuse it)
my smiley drinks green tea. works. just, the commercial investments are lower.
MrCucumber
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3 Posts
March 12 2011 01:45 GMT
#1213
Earthquake: Protoss
Japan: Zerg

gg

User was banned for this post.
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
March 12 2011 01:46 GMT
#1214
On March 12 2011 10:45 MrCucumber wrote:
Earthquake: Protoss
Japan: Zerg

gg

It's not the time to be saying out sc2 jokes tbh
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
March 12 2011 01:47 GMT
#1215
On March 12 2011 10:43 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 10:38 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On March 12 2011 10:30 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
incredible damage. done by nature

but, the real danger is the nuclear thread done by humans.

human will decide how this turns out. if the nuclear damage will procede to likes of chernobyl or if it will be prevented. that is a total blast of complete japan by nuclear pollution or if nothing happenes handling the situation. sadly big part is luck.

die or live. it is to be decided.

best hopes to you that it wont go the worst case scenario.

if it goes worst. whole japan is wasted land, and this is way more than the earthquake did, it would be the result of human nuclear developement.


Where are your sources that say all of Japan will become a nuclear wasteland? I'm having trouble seeing how all that could happen from 2 nuclear reactor failures.

simply research the impact of chernobyl.

russia is a mass area country, but even in germany we had an impact. japan is a super compact country, and since it is lika line, the weather is able to kill that line.

It's more of an issue of how likely this is going to be not what would be the worse case scenario.
Yttrasil
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden651 Posts
March 12 2011 01:49 GMT
#1216
On March 12 2011 10:43 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 10:38 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On March 12 2011 10:30 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
incredible damage. done by nature

but, the real danger is the nuclear thread done by humans.

human will decide how this turns out. if the nuclear damage will procede to likes of chernobyl or if it will be prevented. that is a total blast of complete japan by nuclear pollution or if nothing happenes handling the situation. sadly big part is luck.

die or live. it is to be decided.

best hopes to you that it wont go the worst case scenario.

if it goes worst. whole japan is wasted land, and this is way more than the earthquake did, it would be the result of human nuclear developement.


Where are your sources that say all of Japan will become a nuclear wasteland? I'm having trouble seeing how all that could happen from 2 nuclear reactor failures.

simply research the impact of chernobyl.

russia is a mass area country, but even in germany we had an impact. japan is a super compact country, and since it is lika line, the weather is able to kill that line.


That and you are proposterous, read some about nuclear power plants and how they are constructed before scaring people to death with non facts the next time. Greenpeace is not a good source for this... and news has a way of reporting facts but not in an explanatory nor comparable way to what actually is dangerous. The chance of a meltdown is minimalistic and if it were to happen the damage would still be minimal and not like with Chernobyl.
Meh
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 01:51:09
March 12 2011 01:50 GMT
#1217
On March 12 2011 10:40 dump wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 10:35 slimshady wrote:
On March 12 2011 10:12 structuralinertia wrote:

Better advice might be to donate to Japan as well as those other poorer places.


Is this a joke? If yes, it's not funny at all.
Japan is rich enough to deal with the current situation.


I think the point that people are trying to make is that donations in the ~$10 range won't make as much a difference to Japan as it would in third world countries suffering disasters.

That doesn't mean they don't need help dealing with this; it just means that there's nothing we as people of more or less average wealth can do financially.

I think if there's anything we can do it would only be in the form of manpower/man hours donated to groups like the Red Cross.


I have to disagree to some extent. Donating $10 doesnt seem to be much from an individual's perspective, but if millions donate the same amount from all over the world do it, it easily adds up to tens of millions.
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
March 12 2011 01:51 GMT
#1218
On March 12 2011 10:49 Yttrasil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 10:43 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
On March 12 2011 10:38 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On March 12 2011 10:30 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
incredible damage. done by nature

but, the real danger is the nuclear thread done by humans.

human will decide how this turns out. if the nuclear damage will procede to likes of chernobyl or if it will be prevented. that is a total blast of complete japan by nuclear pollution or if nothing happenes handling the situation. sadly big part is luck.

die or live. it is to be decided.

best hopes to you that it wont go the worst case scenario.

if it goes worst. whole japan is wasted land, and this is way more than the earthquake did, it would be the result of human nuclear developement.


Where are your sources that say all of Japan will become a nuclear wasteland? I'm having trouble seeing how all that could happen from 2 nuclear reactor failures.

simply research the impact of chernobyl.

russia is a mass area country, but even in germany we had an impact. japan is a super compact country, and since it is lika line, the weather is able to kill that line.


That and you are proposterous, read some about nuclear power plants and how they are constructed before scaring people to death with non facts the next time. Greenpeace is not a good source for this... and news has a way of reporting facts but not in an explanatory nor comparable way to what actually is dangerous. The chance of a meltdown is minimalistic and if it were to happen the damage would still be minimal and not like with Chernobyl.


You seem to know more about this. Assuming that there is a meltdown - how big would the damage be?
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
March 12 2011 01:51 GMT
#1219
On March 12 2011 10:11 zeeQue wrote:
Skimming through the posts, could we be looking at a meltdown in one or more of the reactors?



its a possibility based on what we're hearing, but there are still many options they can try
starleague forever
Galtakar
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden374 Posts
March 12 2011 01:52 GMT
#1220
0143: Tokyo Electric Power releases more radioactive vapour from a second sticken reactor, AFP reports.
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