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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.
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On March 19 2011 21:49 NB wrote:
WHAT... i didnt keep track of this thread in the last 2 days and now they are saying "LOW LEVEL RADIATION HAS REACH SOUTHERN CALI"??? WTF?? is that true?
Someone please pm me on the info... and what is the radius of this shit. T_T
Wow, settle down. The amount of radiation from Japan you've received in California is approximately 1 million times less than the amount you receive daily from the earth, sun, and air. Alarmism is not required here. Or anywhere, for that matter.
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On March 20 2011 06:50 VanGarde wrote:
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These last few days have really renewed my dedication to this. Looking back at all the panic and paranoia that has spread lately it can most certainly be blamed on the media for taking advantage of people know knowing these things. But to one extent it can also be blamed on all of us who have made ourselves dependant on the media for information.
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I feel you. When I heard a guy in the radio say that there might be a nuclear explosion I was ready to punch the frigging radio through the wall. Stupidity annoys me but spreading misinformation makes me mad.
I appreciate the Japanese letting foreigners measure the radiation. Hopefully the media uses the right information when the measurements come from their own country. Also the highest dosage that any member of the latest water-spraying operation received was 27 mSv (that is 27milli Sievert during their shift not per hour)
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I've realised over the past few weeks that I actually get most of my news from Teamliquid, simply because how pissed off I get over this retarded spread of misinformation, its worse then marmite, god damn.
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On March 20 2011 08:35 Hypemeup wrote:
I've realised over the past few weeks that I actually get most of my news from Teamliquid, simply because how pissed off I get over this retarded spread of misinformation, its worse then marmite, god damn.
sadly this is the case. All I have heard from the australian media has been hysteria, misinformation and things taken out of context to sell papers or gain viewership.
This thread has been my primary source of information on the whole ordeal
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2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Have there been any significant updates in the past 12 hours? Just woke up. =x
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Either media is distracted by Libya or things in Japan are ok.
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On March 20 2011 10:26 slimshady wrote:
Either media is distracted by Libya or things in Japan are ok.
Here's some headlines:
Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:03pm EDT
>"Japan plant spent fuel pools down to almost normal levels"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/20/us-japan-plant-spent-fuel-idUSTRE72J04320110320
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>Work also advanced on bringing power back to water pumps used to cool overheating nuclear fuel, and Kyodo news agency reported that temperatures at spent fuel pools in reactors No. 5 and 6 were returning to normal.
"We are making progress ... (but) we shouldn't be too optimistic," said Hidehiko Nishiyama, deputy-general at Japan's Nuclear Safety Agency.
Technicians attached a power cable to the No. 1 and No. 2 reactors, hoping to restore electricity later in the day prior to an attempt to switch the pumps on.
They aim to reach No. 3 and 4 soon after that.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/20/us-japan-quake-idUSTRE72A0SS20110320
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>Radiation level by prefecture
http://www.mext.go.jp/english/radioactivity_level/detail/1303962.htm
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・The operation for filling the spent fuel pool with water at Unit 3 continued until 03:40 midnight, lasting 13 hours -- 6 hours more than scheduled. The 2000 tons of water-filling operation was done with a special water cannon vehicle in mostly unattended manner to protect the crew against radiation exposure.
・For Units 5 and 6, restored emergency power supply has enabled the cooling system to begin to cool down the spent fuel pond, bringing the Unit 5 pool temperature down from 68.8 ℃ to 43.1℃ at 03:00. Also, the Unit 6 spent fuel pond has seen its water temperature lower 67.5℃ to 52℃ at 03:00.
・At Units 1 and 2, cables were successfully connected to external power supply and TEPCO will make every effort to restore cooling-down capability of the units.
・At Unit 4, the first water-filling operation will be conducted by the Self-Defense Force on March 20. They will use a water cannon truck which enables the crew to stay inside on water filling operation in the high radiation environment.
・Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, NISA revealed that radiation monitored at Unit 3 showed 3,443 micro Sv/h at 14:00 March 19 and lowered to 2,906 micro Sv/h. NISA attributes this stable status of the Unit to the water filling.
・According to TEPCO, the maximum acceleration of 507 gal was measured at Unit 3, which exceeds the design basis maximum acceleration of 449 and 441.
http://www.jaif.or.jp/english/index.php
(Great website, I recommend)
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Here's an idea: instead of reporting things in uSv or mSv, people should just start reporting things in sieverts.
We're at 0.003Sv/hr at Reactor #3, and we need 0.05Sv for it to start being a concern.
http://xkcd.com/radiation/
+ Show Spoiler +
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On March 20 2011 10:26 slimshady wrote:
Either media is distracted by Libya or things in Japan are ok.
I wouldn't say things are ok...
According to the Miyagi's local police latest report death toll in this prefecture alone tops 15,000 people (source)
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On March 20 2011 10:53 dump wrote:
We're at 0.003Sv/hr at Reactor #3, and we need 0.05Sv for it to start being a concern.
It would only be a concern if you actually stand in Reactor #3. I don't think many people will do that.
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I am surprised that news from Japan has died down quite alot. Other than the nuclear reactor problems, how is the supplies shortage problem in part of Japan coming along? Is that getting resolved or still pretty bad?
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On March 20 2011 10:53 dump wrote:Here's an idea: instead of reporting things in uSv or mSv, people should just start reporting things in sieverts. We're at 0.003Sv/hr at Reactor #3, and we need 0.05Sv for it to start being a concern. http://xkcd.com/radiation/+ Show Spoiler +
Oh, when I saw xkcd, I thought instantly it was a link to this comic: + Show Spoiler +
Wich I also find highly appropiate...
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On March 20 2011 19:05 furymonkey wrote:
I am surprised that news from Japan has died down quite alot. Other than the nuclear reactor problems, how is the supplies shortage problem in part of Japan coming along? Is that getting resolved or still pretty bad?
Some places that didn't have food now have food. Some places that didn't have transportation now have transportation.
The situation is overall only slightly better than it was last week.
All the misinformation, mis-prioritizing and exaggeration has turned people off from watching the news. It's a terrible situation and the members of the press initially responsible for what will later undoubtedly be confirmed wrong should be sued for sensationalizing a situation which requires a proper balance between alarm and composure to ensure that people's lives and wellbeing aren't put at risk.
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DAYS before Japan plunged into an atomic crisis after a giant earthquake and tsunami knocked out power at the ageing Fukushima nuclear plant, its operator had admitted faking repair records.
The revelation raises fresh questions about both Tokyo, the scandal-tainted past of the Electric Power Co (TEPCO), and the Japanese government's perceived soft regulation of a key industry.
The operator of the Fukushima No 1 plant submitted a report to the country's nuclear watchdog 10 days before the quake hit on March 11, admitting it had failed to inspect 33 pieces of equipment in its six reactors there.
A power board distributing electricity to a reactor's temperature control valves was not examined for 11 years, and inspectors faked records, pretending to make thorough inspections when in fact they were only cursory, TEPCO said.
Source
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TEPCO is going to get into a lot of trouble for admitting false safety records... Not that I don't think it would have done anything to change the situation. Still, that's not good.
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On March 21 2011 10:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +DAYS before Japan plunged into an atomic crisis after a giant earthquake and tsunami knocked out power at the ageing Fukushima nuclear plant, its operator had admitted faking repair records.
The revelation raises fresh questions about both Tokyo, the scandal-tainted past of the Electric Power Co (TEPCO), and the Japanese government's perceived soft regulation of a key industry.
The operator of the Fukushima No 1 plant submitted a report to the country's nuclear watchdog 10 days before the quake hit on March 11, admitting it had failed to inspect 33 pieces of equipment in its six reactors there.
A power board distributing electricity to a reactor's temperature control valves was not examined for 11 years, and inspectors faked records, pretending to make thorough inspections when in fact they were only cursory, TEPCO said. Source
Probably been dug out of their hole by that Wikileaks leak a little while ago.
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On March 20 2011 08:35 Hypemeup wrote:
I've realised over the past few weeks that I actually get most of my news from Teamliquid, simply because how pissed off I get over this retarded spread of misinformation, its worse then marmite, god damn.
Then I guess you haven seen that Aftonbladet has brought in a "retired nuclear science expert" that is supposed to make their lies and exaggerations a bit more believable. Main stream media man...
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On March 20 2011 08:35 Hypemeup wrote:
I've realised over the past few weeks that I actually get most of my news from Teamliquid, simply because how pissed off I get over this retarded spread of misinformation, its worse then marmite, god damn.
Seriously, I wonder how profitable can a news site be, just to make one that work with facts.
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On March 21 2011 14:27 sqrt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2011 08:35 Hypemeup wrote:
I've realised over the past few weeks that I actually get most of my news from Teamliquid, simply because how pissed off I get over this retarded spread of misinformation, its worse then marmite, god damn. Seriously, I wonder how profitable can a news site be, just to make one that work with facts.
Team liquid is a good source because it's so international. So we can get all the stories and we can look over everything and decide for ourselves. Where a site based purely in one region would have all the news catered at that, and would have a more skewed picture.
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