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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
rosesmith
Profile Joined March 2011
1 Post
March 19 2011 01:53 GMT
#3541
--- Nuked ---
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
March 19 2011 02:00 GMT
#3542
On March 19 2011 10:50 kaisen wrote:
The moment nuclear plant chief WEPT as Japanese finally admit that radiation leak is serious enough to kill people

Show nested quote +
Officials admit they may have to bury reactors under concrete - as happened at Chernobyl
Government says it was overwhelmed by the scale of twin disasters
Japanese upgrade accident from level four to five - the same as Three Mile Island
We will rebuild from scratch says Japanese prime minister
Particles spewed from wrecked Fukushima power station arrive in California
Military trucks tackle reactors with tons of water for second day



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367684/Nuclear-plant-chief-weeps-Japanese-finally-admit-radiation-leak-kill-people.html#ixzz1H0RBOBwe

I apologize if this article is already posted.


So, what's going on exactly? Will they be unable to stop the crisis? =/
Writer
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
March 19 2011 02:01 GMT
#3543
On March 19 2011 11:00 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 10:50 kaisen wrote:
The moment nuclear plant chief WEPT as Japanese finally admit that radiation leak is serious enough to kill people

Officials admit they may have to bury reactors under concrete - as happened at Chernobyl
Government says it was overwhelmed by the scale of twin disasters
Japanese upgrade accident from level four to five - the same as Three Mile Island
We will rebuild from scratch says Japanese prime minister
Particles spewed from wrecked Fukushima power station arrive in California
Military trucks tackle reactors with tons of water for second day



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367684/Nuclear-plant-chief-weeps-Japanese-finally-admit-radiation-leak-kill-people.html#ixzz1H0RBOBwe

I apologize if this article is already posted.


So, what's going on exactly? Will they be unable to stop the crisis? =/


Still wondering this. Anyone got a summary on the situation and the expected things to happen in the next week, and the danger? Every news report I read is entirely contradictory.
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
March 19 2011 02:02 GMT
#3544
They are already planning to do the samething as what the Ukranians did during the Chernobyl. Seal the reactor with sarcophagus.
lgn!
Profile Joined February 2010
Italy224 Posts
March 19 2011 02:02 GMT
#3545
On March 19 2011 10:50 kaisen wrote:
The moment nuclear plant chief WEPT as Japanese finally admit that radiation leak is serious enough to kill people

Show nested quote +
Officials admit they may have to bury reactors under concrete - as happened at Chernobyl
Government says it was overwhelmed by the scale of twin disasters
Japanese upgrade accident from level four to five - the same as Three Mile Island
We will rebuild from scratch says Japanese prime minister
Particles spewed from wrecked Fukushima power station arrive in California
Military trucks tackle reactors with tons of water for second day



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367684/Nuclear-plant-chief-weeps-Japanese-finally-admit-radiation-leak-kill-people.html#ixzz1H0RBOBwe

I apologize if this article is already posted.


enough to kill people... ok but where? in front of the nuclear plant? in tokyo? in the whole japan?
this is so bad information, just spreading fear without giving the information we need
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kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
March 19 2011 02:07 GMT
#3546
On March 19 2011 11:02 lgn! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 10:50 kaisen wrote:
The moment nuclear plant chief WEPT as Japanese finally admit that radiation leak is serious enough to kill people

Officials admit they may have to bury reactors under concrete - as happened at Chernobyl
Government says it was overwhelmed by the scale of twin disasters
Japanese upgrade accident from level four to five - the same as Three Mile Island
We will rebuild from scratch says Japanese prime minister
Particles spewed from wrecked Fukushima power station arrive in California
Military trucks tackle reactors with tons of water for second day



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367684/Nuclear-plant-chief-weeps-Japanese-finally-admit-radiation-leak-kill-people.html#ixzz1H0RBOBwe

I apologize if this article is already posted.


enough to kill people... ok but where? in front of the nuclear plant? in tokyo? in the whole japan?
this is so bad information, just spreading fear without giving the information we need

Obviously the area around Fukushima, especially around the reactor site...

I doubt that amount of radiation is already near Tokyo....
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 19 2011 02:09 GMT
#3547
On March 19 2011 11:00 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 10:50 kaisen wrote:
The moment nuclear plant chief WEPT as Japanese finally admit that radiation leak is serious enough to kill people

Officials admit they may have to bury reactors under concrete - as happened at Chernobyl
Government says it was overwhelmed by the scale of twin disasters
Japanese upgrade accident from level four to five - the same as Three Mile Island
We will rebuild from scratch says Japanese prime minister
Particles spewed from wrecked Fukushima power station arrive in California
Military trucks tackle reactors with tons of water for second day



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367684/Nuclear-plant-chief-weeps-Japanese-finally-admit-radiation-leak-kill-people.html#ixzz1H0RBOBwe

I apologize if this article is already posted.


So, what's going on exactly? Will they be unable to stop the crisis? =/


It's by the dailymail...



here's a song to show just how untrustworthy it is as a news source.

Currently we don't know the context of why he is shown crying though we do now that it's today. However from the various radiation detectors being shown, levels have not risen at all. Go to the INES site for the numbers I think. I'll link when I find it.
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
March 19 2011 02:11 GMT
#3548
Thanks. I'm not familiar with foreign sources and which are accurate or not, so it's good to know.

Everyone who posts fearmongering stuff should be warned.
Writer
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 19 2011 02:14 GMT
#3549
Also if you keep reading that article they say that "Officials admit they may have to bury reactors under concrete - as happened at Chernobyl" which is clearly not true
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 19 2011 02:18 GMT
#3550
ABC also provides an article on that same picture but they link dailymail as the source for the picture, the only relevant Japanese article I can find is this one:

http://www.sponichi.co.jp/society/news/2011/03/18/kiji/K20110318000455930.html

and it merely says that he's apologizing for the situation as a whole.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
March 19 2011 02:32 GMT
#3551
On March 19 2011 10:50 kaisen wrote:
The moment nuclear plant chief WEPT as Japanese finally admit that radiation leak is serious enough to kill people

Show nested quote +
Officials admit they may have to bury reactors under concrete - as happened at Chernobyl
Government says it was overwhelmed by the scale of twin disasters
Japanese upgrade accident from level four to five - the same as Three Mile Island
We will rebuild from scratch says Japanese prime minister
Particles spewed from wrecked Fukushima power station arrive in California
Military trucks tackle reactors with tons of water for second day



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367684/Nuclear-plant-chief-weeps-Japanese-finally-admit-radiation-leak-kill-people.html#ixzz1H0RBOBwe

I apologize if this article is already posted.

It's the dailymail. One of the many UK tabloids that sometimes reports alien sightings.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
lgn!
Profile Joined February 2010
Italy224 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 02:35:54
March 19 2011 02:35 GMT
#3552
It's the dailymail. One of the many UK tabloids that sometimes reports alien sightings.


lol, i cant believe tabloids like that can even exist

jeez, i hate media information sooooooooooooooo much
화이팅
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
March 19 2011 02:36 GMT
#3553
On March 19 2011 10:50 kaisen wrote:
The moment nuclear plant chief WEPT as Japanese finally admit that radiation leak is serious enough to kill people

Show nested quote +
Officials admit they may have to bury reactors under concrete - as happened at Chernobyl
Government says it was overwhelmed by the scale of twin disasters
Japanese upgrade accident from level four to five - the same as Three Mile Island
We will rebuild from scratch says Japanese prime minister
Particles spewed from wrecked Fukushima power station arrive in California
Military trucks tackle reactors with tons of water for second day



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367684/Nuclear-plant-chief-weeps-Japanese-finally-admit-radiation-leak-kill-people.html#ixzz1H0RBOBwe

I apologize if this article is already posted.



this is so funny.
here is a pictures of the fuel rod exposed, see the green crane ? well we can clearly see just out of shot that the pool is completely dry and the rod exposed...

yeah it seem to me thats very clear from their picture :p


And i think the "we could have respond more quickly to the disaster" is mor about the quake refugees, lack gas, cold etc... than about the reactors (but it's only what i think i didn't read it anywhere, seem that i missed this press conf)
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
March 19 2011 02:39 GMT
#3554
Stop posting sensationalist bullshit please.
ModeratorGodfather
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 02:49:42
March 19 2011 02:49 GMT
#3555
On March 19 2011 11:02 kaisen wrote:
They are already planning to do the samething as what the Ukranians did during the Chernobyl. Seal the reactor with sarcophagus.


No they aren't. TEPCO and the govt authority in fact both explicitly said they weren't looking at doing this. The main reason is that the weight of tonnes of air-dropped sand and rock stands a fair chance of damaging the housings and casings and causing further spread of radiation into the environment. Also, sand covering would insulate and so encourage even further heat build-up.

Way down the track, once things have cooled, they may decide that concrete burial is simpler than dismantling and disposing of the innards. But that's a disposal issue not relevant right now.

tl;dr They are not planning to cover in concrete.

(Apparently the stories actually started after some US tv host suggested it. ?)
Dance those ultras
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
March 19 2011 02:53 GMT
#3556
On March 19 2011 11:39 Manifesto7 wrote:
Stop posting sensationalist bullshit please.

Really wish that the power plant problem didn't exist not even to save lives or anything like that. But simply because at least in the US media it overshadows the actual disaster in japan.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-19 03:06:53
March 19 2011 03:05 GMT
#3557
[image loading]

as you can see, levels in the surrounding areas are very low today

http://www.mext.go.jp/component/a_menu/other/detail/__icsFiles/afieldfile/2011/03/19/1303887_1813.pdf
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
lgn!
Profile Joined February 2010
Italy224 Posts
March 19 2011 03:08 GMT
#3558
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2014532138_apunjapanearthquake.html

something more accurate than dailymail's bullshit :D
화이팅
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
March 19 2011 05:00 GMT
#3559
On March 19 2011 11:53 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 11:39 Manifesto7 wrote:
Stop posting sensationalist bullshit please.

Really wish that the power plant problem didn't exist not even to save lives or anything like that. But simply because at least in the US media it overshadows the actual disaster in japan.

As far as I can tell, it IS the bigger problem. Japan is well equipped to handle earthquakes and without the tsunami, the deathtoll would have been very close to zero. Even after the tsunami, the damage was relatively little compared to what we see from other major natural disasters. This is the major thing threatening lives.
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dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 19 2011 05:21 GMT
#3560
On March 19 2011 14:00 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2011 11:53 semantics wrote:
On March 19 2011 11:39 Manifesto7 wrote:
Stop posting sensationalist bullshit please.

Really wish that the power plant problem didn't exist not even to save lives or anything like that. But simply because at least in the US media it overshadows the actual disaster in japan.

As far as I can tell, it IS the bigger problem. Japan is well equipped to handle earthquakes and without the tsunami, the deathtoll would have been very close to zero. Even after the tsunami, the damage was relatively little compared to what we see from other major natural disasters. This is the major thing threatening lives.


The tsunami washed away at least 10,000 people before people could even evacuate. By the time they knew it was coming, it was too late.

If the radiation gets bad, someone with observational equipment will be able to notify people quite quickly. There doesn't seem to be any possibility that it'll be any worse than Three Mile Island at worst.

I'm more concerned about the people who've been taking potassium iodide or locking themselves inside in the Pacific west. If someone can figure out which press companies started the fear mongering, I would love to see a class action lawsuit filed against them.
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