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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
March 15 2011 02:57 GMT
#2581
On March 15 2011 11:56 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 11:47 Dimagus wrote:
Tuesday - Fukushima II has safely stopped all of it's reactors

source? that's great news


From the Live NHK ustream.
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
March 15 2011 02:57 GMT
#2582
I'm curious to when the foreign news reporters call it quits and head back home.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 15 2011 02:58 GMT
#2583
On March 15 2011 11:56 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 11:47 Dimagus wrote:
Tuesday - Fukushima II has safely stopped all of it's reactors

source? that's great news


I was under the impression all reactors were shut down after the quake and before the tsunami hit. There is no _cold_ shutdown in any of the reactors, that's for sure.
Razith
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada431 Posts
March 15 2011 02:59 GMT
#2584
BREAKING NEWS: Hydrogen explosion occurs at Fukushima No. 4 reactor (11:53)

http://english.kyodonews.jp/


That is 4 reactors that have had hydrogen explosions now.
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 03:02:31
March 15 2011 03:00 GMT
#2585
There's two Fukushima power plants. The major problems are at Fukushima I dealing with reactors 1,2,3, and now 4. Fukushima II was reported as having safely shut down and cooled all of their reactors.

I believe there was a 3rd power plant that also reported a state of emergency as well, but haven't heard any problems / updates yet
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
March 15 2011 03:01 GMT
#2586
On March 15 2011 11:57 Dimagus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 11:56 Antoine wrote:
On March 15 2011 11:47 Dimagus wrote:
Tuesday - Fukushima II has safely stopped all of it's reactors

source? that's great news


From the Live NHK ustream.


Really hope that's true. Watching al jazeera english live stream atm and they are reporting that operators at the 4th reactor are requesting the military to put out the fire...

This is like the perfect shitstorm in japan. Really hope nothing else happens...
Vaeila
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands336 Posts
March 15 2011 03:03 GMT
#2587
On March 15 2011 12:00 Dimagus wrote:
There's two Fukushima power plants. The major problems are at Fukushima I dealing with reactors 1,2,3, and now 4. Fukushima II was reported as having safely shut down and cooled all of their reactors.

I believe there was a 3rd power plant that also reported a state of emergency as well, but haven't heard any problems / updates yet


I believe that was in Tokai (spelling?).
TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
March 15 2011 03:06 GMT
#2588
On March 15 2011 12:03 Vaeila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 12:00 Dimagus wrote:
There's two Fukushima power plants. The major problems are at Fukushima I dealing with reactors 1,2,3, and now 4. Fukushima II was reported as having safely shut down and cooled all of their reactors.

I believe there was a 3rd power plant that also reported a state of emergency as well, but haven't heard any problems / updates yet


I believe that was in Tokai (spelling?).


Correct. Tokai #2 has also a problem with one of their cooling system pumps, but apparently the backup systems are working fine.
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 03:09:15
March 15 2011 03:07 GMT
#2589
Onagawa was also a 4th plant but the increase in radiation was believed to be from Fukushima

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onagawa_Nuclear_Power_Plant
"A fire from the turbine section of the plant following the 2011 Sendai earthquake was reported by Kyodo News.[1]

On March 13, 2011, levels of radiation on site reached 21μSv/hour, a level at which Tohoku Electric Power Company were mandated to declare state of emergency, and they did so at 12:50, declaring the lowest-level such state. Within 10 minutes the level had dropped to 10μSv/hour.[2][3][4] The Japanese authorities assume the temporarily heightened values were due to radiation from the Fukushima I nuclear accidents and not from the plant itself.[5][6] On March 13 20:45 UTC, the IAEA announced that radiation levels at the Onagawa plant had returned to normal background levels"

Actually NHK Live just mentioned the last reading was 5.7μSv/hour at Onagawa
Nienordir
Profile Joined October 2010
98 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 03:12:19
March 15 2011 03:09 GMT
#2590
Seems that Japan currently has dibs on all the bad luck of the world.

High radiation near the plant (limiting, possibly disabling rescue operations there soon), a fire and another explosion, all while the wind decided to turn south, sending radioactive particles towards the tokyo bay..things could get really ugly soon..you just can't evacuate 40 million people and more. Let's just hope that none of the units ejects huge amounts of its inventory into the air.

At least the second plant has been cooled&stabilized, so if they have to evacuate that area too at least nothing should happen there.

btw>The nervousness of the translator is quite disturbing. I don't even want to know how scared the people must be.
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
March 15 2011 03:09 GMT
#2591
http://english.kyodonews.jp/
BREAKING NEWS: Fire at No.4 reactor apparently put out: Tokyo Electric (12:04)
Vaeila
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands336 Posts
March 15 2011 03:10 GMT
#2592
Its quite fearsome to read that the wind has changed direction and is now blowing towards Tokyo, luckily there are messages like these from people living in Japan:

""Most of the shops are closed and quite a few Japanese people have left Tokyo to stay with relatives further west."

Furthermore Reactor No. 3 still doesnt seem to be stable as opposed to what has been suggested in this thread before according to:
"Radiation is 400 times the annual legal limit near Fukushima's reactor 3, the Kyodo news agency reports."

If im correct No. 3 runs on plutonium which makes this by far the most dangerous reactor.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 03:13:49
March 15 2011 03:12 GMT
#2593
Well, these are troubling developments to be sure but we can safely say the Japanese have at least avoided the worst possible scenario. Just keeping everyone updated about the radiation and the safety zones is huge, if we compare to past tragedies.

I'm not too up to date on the situation besides this thread but all I hope is that they can prevent a meltdown from happening and tainting the area with radiation for years to come.

Edit : Reading about the wind, I hadn't really thought about it enough. I guess that could definitely be a worst case scenario if Tokyo has to be completely evacuated.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
March 15 2011 03:15 GMT
#2594
3:13
DJ: Japan Police: Quake, Tsunami Death Toll Now At 2,475, Missing At 3,118 As Of 0100 GMT
------------------------------
patyrykin.net
TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 03:26:17
March 15 2011 03:16 GMT
#2595
On March 15 2011 12:09 Dimagus wrote:
http://english.kyodonews.jp/
BREAKING NEWS: Fire at No.4 reactor apparently put out: Tokyo Electric (12:04)


Confirmed on multiple streams as well.

That's probably the best news at the moment, because the fire and the location of the fire were the most dangerous problem at the site right now.


I'm unable to find real confirmation. It was mentioned on both the yoksonews and NHK stream once, but now NHK is back to reporting about the fire.
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 15 2011 03:26 GMT
#2596
150mSv -> temporary male infertility
500mSv -> temporary white blood cell count decrease
Quakie
Profile Joined October 2008
Norway725 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 03:27:44
March 15 2011 03:26 GMT
#2597
TOKYO (AP) _ Japan's nuclear safety agency says fire at No. 4 reactor of nuke plant extinguished.

From AP-feed.
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
March 15 2011 03:27 GMT
#2598
Oh shit. Looks like it's going to be pretty much a worst case scenario.
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GiantEnemyCrab
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada503 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 03:30:35
March 15 2011 03:28 GMT
#2599
This is the new Chernobyl. Loooks like they are having trouble with 2 reactors.


¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
March 15 2011 03:31 GMT
#2600
On March 15 2011 12:28 GiantEnemyCrab wrote:
This is the new Chernobyl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syroj5lBbcc&feature=feedu


No, it's not. It has been explained multiple times already why the current situation is in no way similar to Chernobyl.
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